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carzen Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:48 PM
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Sen. Hatch says GOP House leaders feared anti-gay label
U.S. House leaders may have delayed taking action against former Florida Republican Rep. Mark Foley because they were afraid of appearing anti-gay, according to Sen. Orrin Hatch.

.......

Hatch's defense, presented to the Tribune editorial board earlier this week, centered on how busy Hastert is as the Republican leader in the House.

But he also said: "I don't know anybody today in the Congress who wants to act or be homophobic, so that may be part of the problem here."

.......

"It's interesting that Senator Hatch and other members of Congress would express a concern about being homophobic when they have supported a constitutional amendment to define marriage. Do they not consider that be homophobic?" asked Mike Thompson, Equality Utah's executive director.


http://www.sltrib.com/ci_4479584


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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:51 PM
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1. "Appearing" anti-gay?
Here's a news bulletin to Orrin....you ARE anti-gay.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:56 PM
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16. I doubt they care about *being* homophobic
It's *looking* homophobic that was the concern.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:59 PM
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19. looking "Homophobic" to the independents is what they want to avoid
the base expects them, demands even that they are "Homophobes"
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:00 PM
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20. Oh, brother. That's from the "having your cake and eating it" dream world.
If you push a discriminatory contitutional amendment, then you're homophobic. Pure and simple.

Jackasses.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:34 PM
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33. Jackasses who don't give a damn
about anyone but themselves.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:51 PM
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2. Ha - another demographic they
are trying to win over - not going to work, it's been shown already they are nothing but a big bunch of bigots. Hey, BBB!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:33 PM
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43. 24% of gay people voted for Bush in 2004. n/t
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 03:33 PM by IanDB1
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annarbor Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:12 PM
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54. I sure as hell didn't!!!!!!!!!
Nor did most of my gay and STRAIGHT friends!!!

Ann Arbor
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:58 PM
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64. Internalized homophobia is toxic.
It is easy to understand, but very hard to forgive.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:52 PM
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3. if the house leadership did the correct thing when they learned about
it oh so many years ago i actually would have some respect for them and i wouldn't have said they were gay bashing but since they knew and covered it up i have nothing but contempt for them, actually even more contempt.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:52 PM
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4. Ok, so they want to ban marriage but they support shacking up?
They are only against monogamy? :sarcasm:
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:52 PM
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5. AFRAID of appearing anti-gay?
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 01:54 PM by AndyA
WHAT TOTAL AND COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

I guess they weren't worried about it while they were trying to make it illegal for gays to marry, essentially making them second class citizens, and ensuring they will never have the same rights as straight people have.

That isn't anti-gay, but outing one of their own who is gay for deviant behavior might appear anti-gay...oh brother! :eyes:

That crazy little world they all seem to live in must be awfully crowded.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:53 PM
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6. hmmmmm
didnt the official word of foley's gayness come from his lawyer at the press conference? it may have been an open secret till then but i bet most americans had no idea he was gay. so how are they going to appear "antigay" towards someone no one knows is gay?
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:53 PM
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7. Hahahahahaha!
Goodness gracious!

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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:53 PM
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8. Everyone knows they're anti-Gay, anti-black, anti-woman, anti-worker...
They're against anyone who isn't a greedy rich white male. The list can go on.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:53 PM
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9. Oh, bullcrap
Republicans run on being anti-gay.

TlalocW
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:53 PM
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10. Nice try Hatch.
:eyes:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:54 PM
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11. I think they feared being labeled as gay, a stigma
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 01:54 PM by babylonsister
these homophobes helped create.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:54 PM
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12. What a way to cover the angle-I'm sure their Christian right sheep will
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 01:55 PM by LaPera
be so happy to know this...That repugs love gays and don't want to offend them.

It's OK to hound young boys, say the republicans!
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:54 PM
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13. Anti-gay or anti-pedophile? Foley's problem is lewd conduct with
pages under sixteen. Anyone in congress SHOULD have been anti that!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:54 PM
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14. so--INSTEAD, these "leaders" allowed the hitting on Pages. umm.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:55 PM
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15. Hatch is an ass n/t
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #15
67. Please...
...don't insult asses, OK? :hi:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:57 PM
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17. Hasturb via Hatch is using the Scooter defence.
how busy Hastert is as the Republican leader in the House.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:59 PM
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18. Does this incredibly lame excuse mean...
...that they are giving up on wooing back the Fundy Right, and now want to attract the squishy middle again? Cuz this excuse ain't going to go over well with the Dobson crowd...though I'm sure it's okay with Dobson himself, as long as his check clears.

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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:01 PM
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21. What the Hell Does Being Gay
have to do with being a fucking pedophile!!! :argh:

Idiots!

See, I knew they all were GOPervs!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:02 PM
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22. isn't Orrin Hatch gay?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:04 PM
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23. I've always suspected it.
.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:38 PM
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36. Someone posted it on one of the boards ...
earlier this year. I thought that he would be outted along with the others.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:11 PM
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25. I think he's a comedian w/ this
kind of lame shit.
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:48 PM
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45. Anyone as overtly homophobic as Hatch likely has "Issues"
It's been a constantly recurring theme throughout his career. I've seen plenty of gay Mormons that get married and play straight. They're usually miserable, twisted and vindictive; adjectives that fit Mr. Hatch to a tee.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:10 PM
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24. republicons were afraid of serving the military, too. That's even clearer
the cons are led by a pack of cowardly chickenhawks -- and their propagandists are all chickenhawks, too -- OiReilly, Limbaugh, Hannity. Not one of them served America a day.

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:16 PM
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26. Whew!! They dodged that bullet...
:sarcasm:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:16 PM
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27. LIAR!!!! LIAR! LIAR! LIAR! LIAR! LIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR!
Says the SAME PARTY that whips their base up with talk of "The Gay Agenda" and actively promotes anti-gay-marriage bans? That tried to prevent lesbians and single women from seeking artificial insemination? That wants to enforce the anti-sodemy laws, and prevent same-sex people from living together a l North Dakota and North Carolina?

Valerie from The Princess Bride simply said it best.

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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:20 PM
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28. please -theyd do whatever possible to appear anti gay-LIAR LIAR
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:23 PM
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29. If they were afraid of appearing anti-gay, why was Foley in the closet?
And why do they have no problem with publicly stating they don't want to allow gay marriage and are willing to amend the constitution to ensure that gays don't have that right?
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greeneyedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:26 PM
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30. hahaha. nice try. how can he say it w/a straight face (no pun intended)?
right, the GOP is so full of compassion and respect for LGBT citizens--as long as we accept that convicted murderers should be allowed to marry, but we shouldn't.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:28 PM
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31. This is a SEXUAL PREDATOR issue, not a gay issue.
Not to mention corruption.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:08 PM
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47. Right. And they were more concerned about appearances than reality.
Once again. This time, some young boys may have suffered as a result of their self-involvement.
His comment makes it look as if it is a greater risk to be called a homophobe than to allow a pedophile predator to continue pursuing boys. What utter BS. I wish the gay community had no affilative ties to NAMBLA, so we could actually speak out against this!
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:33 PM
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32. I thought being anti-gay was a source of pride for the Grand Ol'e Pervs
I hope those evangelicals who have been suckered into supporting these idiots notice these comments - but I won't hold my breath because I don't think that fire and brimstone crowd is real big on reading. :shrug:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:35 PM
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34. I thought Mormons weren't supposed to smoke
But, damn, that's gotta be some primo shit old Orrin's got a hold of.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:36 PM
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35. Uh... no gay marriage... no gays in the military... no gay blah, blah...
Why would they be afraid to be thought of as anti-gay? I'm really going to have to ponder on this one. Not.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:53 PM
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37. LOL
I literally laughed out loud when I read this. So Republicans are now afraid of appearing homophobic? Where's the popcorn? :D
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:56 PM
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38. "My last, last chance: bottom-of-the-barrel, hail-mary, long-shot,
wish-you-would-do-it-but-probably-won't final resort to make this go away before November 7..."





:spray:

mikey_the_rat
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:16 PM
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39. Pull the other one, Orrin...it's got bells on!
Give me a fuckin' break!
The GOP is DESPERATE to appear "anti gay".
A little TOO desperate in many cases,
as we've seen time and again.

They've been Loud-n-Proud of their homophobic
agitprop for YEARS!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:47 PM
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63. Amen.
They're the embodiment, the representation, the epitome of homophobia.

Why even pretend to be otherwise?

They've made their bed, they can lie in it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:19 PM
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40. Holy Soiled Condom Batman, that is RICH
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:26 PM
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41. Dont worry Hatch
you've already got Mary Cheney's vote locked up.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:32 PM
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42. Who the fuck does he think he's kidding????? SERIOUSLY! n/t
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:34 PM
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44. Bull Shit, being anti gay is part of their winning strategy.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:50 PM
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46. ridiculous. This is the party that stands up and speaks against gay
marriages as well as keeps attacking the gays anyway they can.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:11 PM
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48. Yeah, cuz anti marriage rights laws weren't a big enough clue.
weasel.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:01 PM
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49. Whoever invented "tool" as a descripter had Anal Hatch in mind.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:08 PM
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50. They're afraid of appearing anti-gay??????? WTF?????
Are they THAT delusional?

The GOP is afraid of appearing anti-gay.

Now I've heard everything.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:29 PM
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51. Shut up, you fucking clown. If that's what you were worried about,
you're even a worse person than we thought, for equating the two.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:51 PM
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52. But You Are.... And Now You Worry...? Too Late Sucka! (nt)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:53 PM
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53. REC
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:40 PM
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55. I always thought they embraced being anti-gay.
Shows what I know!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:19 PM
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56. Right. Never mind wanting to propose anti-gay amendments
to the Constitution. These people are simply freaks. They will lie about anything.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:21 PM
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57. Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha!
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 09:30 PM by TankLV
That's a good one!

Oh, you mean he's SERIOUS?!?!

nevermind the FACT that being GAY has NOTHING to do with PEDOPHILIA!!!!!!!

Here's another FACT Mr. Repuke: 99.9999% of all PEDOPHILES are STRAIGHT!

Stick THAT up your ASS...
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:32 PM
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58. Thugs have a real problem with accurate labelling...
from "organic" products to themselves.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:41 PM
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59. Bwahahahaha! That's the lamest, but funniest thing I've heard all year!
:rofl:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:45 PM
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60. How many of them voted for the anti-gay amendment?
The marriage one? Posers.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:51 PM
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61. They decided that appearing "pro-child predator" worked BETTER for them?
They decided that allowing Foley to continue with his activities was the LESSER of the two evils?

:eyes:
rocknation
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:23 PM
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62. What's homophobic, Hatch-you-moron, is not being able to
tell the difference between a gay person and a predator.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:28 PM
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65. "FEARED" anti-gay label????
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 11:28 PM by Hepburn
I thought the bastards INVENTED being anti-gay. Guess I learn something new each day.

:sarcasm:
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Singular73 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:28 PM
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66. Homophobia is their frikken platform!
That really takes balls to say.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:32 PM
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68. Such bullcrap
I am sick to death of this gay bashing already. This SOB knows the damn difference between a gay person and a sexual predator. He also knows the dipshits he preaches to don't. :mad:
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:06 AM
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69. This is a fucking lie,
and these bastards should be called on it every time they repeat it. They've been laying on the anti-gay rhetoric for years and years.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:26 AM
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70. And now they equate gay and pedophilia and prove they are anti-gay. (nt)
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:16 PM
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71. Yes, they're SOOO sensitive about that ... don't want to give the wrong
impression, do they?

After all, they get blamed so often for things which aren't their fault.

In their DREAMS.

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