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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:44 PM
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Teacher Suspended For Toy Gun Used In Play
School officials in Florida are deciding what to with a teacher who allegedly carried a toy gun around school property.

Collier County sheriffs spokeswoman Kristin Adams said the teacher did not make any threats to anyone, and no criminal violations were found.

But the school district is conducting its own investigation and will interview teachers, staff and students at the school about the incident.

The paper reported that Hamblett said the toy gun strongly resembled a 45 mm gun.

http://www.theindychannel.com/education/10060122/detail...
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:45 PM
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1. it's such a joy to be a teacher these days...
:eyes:
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:46 PM
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2. A 45 mm gun?
That must be one hell of a large handgun.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:47 PM
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5. Doncha love it when reporters have no idea what they are talking about?
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 12:54 PM by dicksteele
Morans.

ON EDIT:

THIS is a "45mm gun":


The TOY the teacher had, in all likelyhood,
probably resembled a .45 caliber pistol:


I can see how a "reporter" might confuse the two. :sarcasm:
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #5
48. LOL. How do you carry one of those around? Must be heavy
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #48
58. Most folks need to tow them behind a jeep.....
Must be a hell of a strong guy who could carry one in his waistband!

Not to mention: what brand of pants does he wear? I need some of those
for work!
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #48
82. You need a REALLY BIG holster.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #5
55. Okay, that's what I THOUGHT a 45mm gun was...
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 03:11 PM by LostinVA
Morans.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #5
65. The reporter wrote that the school district official
"said the toy gun strongly resembled a 45 mm gun."

Why is it automatically the reporter's fault? Is it not possible that Hamblett misspoke and was quoted accurately?



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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:01 PM
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44. Here's a slightly smaller 40mm S&W handgun
This is called the L/60, the compact-sized varient of the larger L/70. This is the ultra-lethal quad-barreled one, but you can get them in doubles and singles as well. The quad mount is not legal in Californa, being classified as an "assault weapon", but the doubles are popular as home-defense weapons and the singles are often used for concealed-carry throughout the Unites States and some other countries. :sarcasm:

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:46 PM
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3. we have a WH summit on school violence that does not mention guns and
now this happens to a teacher?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:47 PM
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4. Carrying around something that looks like a 45 mm gun???
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 12:47 PM by slackmaster
A Soviet 45 perhaps?



Most impressive!

ETA Nobody ever went broke betting against the news media's ability to get technical information right.
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:48 PM
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6. Whoa whoa whoa
At our school play two years ago, they used a real gun. And last year my friend used a sword cane as a prop.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #6
78. I kid at my HS brought a cutlass for Halloween
It was dull, but it was real. He went as a pirate.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:49 PM
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7. I'd be concerned that this gun was used for intimidation purposes
It was totally inappropriate to have the gun at school at all--and the fact that it was used in a school play is equally as offensive.
But the teacher should have known better.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. It wasn't a gun
It was a prop.

...the fact that it was used in a school play is equally as offensive.

Are you advocating censoring guns out of plays before they can be performed in schools?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. I would recommend censoring plays that use guns at this point in time.
Just seems like a bad idea.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Sorry about that, Bertolt Brecht and others
:eyes:
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. Fire me, then
I taught kindergarten. As part of our Thanksgiving unit the children used a wooden rifle to hunt paper turkeys. I guess 9/11 changed that part of history as well.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. The Pilgrims took game that Native Americans would have eaten
Ban them, too.

:eyes:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #12
46. 'O God yes! Lets do away with all the knifes also while we're at it.
You gotta be kidding.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #12
64. I advocate removing all thumbs and forefingers as well....
You never now when some devilish child will point that dangerous thing at me and say "bang, bang".

This thread is comedy.
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bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #12
72. Censorship....
...now there's a good idea. :eyes:


OMFG....I think censoring art because of hoplophobia is an even worse idea.

(Hoplophobia: The irrational fear of firearms. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoplophobia )


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harpboy_ak Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:24 AM
Response to Reply #12
76. Sorry, the First Amendment hasn't been cancelled
Even though Bu$h would like to think so. CENSORSHIP IS ILLEGAL as well as just plain WRONG and stupid. If we give up free speech rights in schools, we might as well just teach the kids right up front that the Constitution is meaningless.

Censorship is the BAD IDEA.

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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #12
85. that is
fucktacularly overboard. Why just guns? Why not censor all plays with any sort of violence? While were at it, we can start burning the scripts as a statment of our beautiful non-voilenceness.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Of course it was a prop
BUT what if a child had gotten hold of the same gun and started pointing it at people?
This was in Florida. Same place that tazers 5-year olds.
I don't think with the school shootings that even play guns (some of them look too realistic) should be allowed.
It is a tragedy waiting to happen when a cop shows up and mows the kid down without asking questions first.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. What if, what if, what if...
I don't think with the school shootings that even play guns (some of them look too realistic) should be allowed.

It's really sad to see someone on DU forums advocating censorship.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. And it is equally as sad seeing someone on DU
advocating possible injury to a child.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. Nice straw man
I do not now nor have I ever advocated possible injury to a child.

Shame on you, Horse with no Name. Go back to the desert.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Not any different than your straw man
Shame on YOU.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #23
67. Censorship is exactly what you are advocating.
And it seems to be reactionary to the recent violence.

You seem like the type that supported banning John Lennon after 9-11.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #15
26. It's not censorship
It's about maintaining a safe environment for kids.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Props don't endanger kids
Claiming they do is absurd.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. Teaching them to use guns real or fake
is not the school's responsibility nor should it be. Guns should also not be glorified in schools (not even in a play). And you need to read this entire article and see what details you missed. This teacher was not using the gun in a play.

It is great to know that we can have our kids in one environment where there are no weapons. That is the point.

If you disagree, contact your congress critters. Federal law bans guns from schools.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. I think gun safety should be taught in schools
Most parents are not qualified to teach their children what to do when they encounter an unsecured firearm. Every child deserves the opportunity to know how to safely unload the most common types of firearms. That can be taught safely with non-firing replicas.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #39
52. My kids learned about guns in Boy Scouts
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #34
47. Bullshit. It's censorship.
Also, just because a play contains a gun, doesn't mean it glorifies guns. And a prop gun/knife is not a weapon, it's a harmless depiction of a weapon.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #47
56. It's also a law in many states
It is here. No guns, real or fake. So I guess that means no plays with guns in high schools.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #56
66. Well then it's state sponsored censorship.
And therefore contrary to the First Amendment.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. Um the first amendment is not about guns
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #68
69. No, it's about speech.
Plays are a form of speech.

I think a fifth grade civics class could probably teach you a thing or two about the first amendment.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #69
71. I thought this discussion was about PROPS in a play
Now all of a sudden it's a first amendment issue? Yeah sure. Next you will tell me that schools banning weapons are violating the first amendment, eh?
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #34
59. So,
No Guys and Dolls, Westside Story, Farenheight 411 (flamethrowers), etc. etc. etc.

Guess we need to have the high schoolers do an interpretation of Barney (I love you...you love me), or maybe vegitales.
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harpboy_ak Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:29 AM
Response to Reply #34
77. Federal law bans GUNS, not play props
You censorship nuts should just go join the damn Repukes. Federal laws ban GUNS, not props for plays. Next thing you'll be banning "Macbeth".

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #34
83. Have you read the play in question?
You can work a gun into a play without "glorifying" guns. Perhaps the play in question demonizes the gun. I don't know. I didn't read it either.
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #34
86. good thing
that the teacher didn't bring a gun to school then.

I can cut up some cardboard in the shap of a computer, but that doesn't make it one.
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DrunkenMaster Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #26
42. bullshite
You can attempt to frame it any way you like...it's still censorship.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #26
49. What? Someone might get cold cocked with the fake gun?
This is a PROP in a school play. Should they ban toy swords in plays too? Might want to ban shoes as well. Who knows, some kid could be hiding a toy bomb in them!
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DrunkenMaster Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #13
41. Awesome Response!
Now that you've mastered the Slippery Slope fallacy, why not go even further?

Let's ban ALL theatre, literature and films with guns in them from our schools! No more history textbooks, no more "Johnny Tremain", no more "All Quiet on the Western Front", no more "1984"!

With ideas like yours running our public schools it is no wonder most college freshman don't know who our allies were in WWII....
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. How does not allowing a child to bring guns--toy or otherwise--
equate to what you are talking about?
You don't need a gun to teach history about the Wild West anymore than you need raging tuberculosis to teach medicine.
You win the prize for the best strawman of the hour.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #8
25. Yes, there have been too many school shootings
Besides, in my state, even toy guns are not allowed in schools. So this teacher would be breaking the law here.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. How many people have been shot with toy guns
:crazy:

Besides, in my state, even toy guns are not allowed in schools. So this teacher would be breaking the law here.

Your state's law is beyond the pale.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #28
33. Same law in many states
It is a part of federal standards for drug and violence free schools. So complain to your congress reps.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #25
88. Am I missing something?.
KS 21-4201 bars possession of real firearms in schools - with quite a few exceptions (including for approved firearms classes - presumably for ROTC). http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/statelaws/23rdedition...

Is there a separate statute dealing with toy guns?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. how is having props available for a school play offensive?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #9
29. Do you really think any kind of gun (even a toy)
belongs in a school? I don't even let my students draw pictures with guns in them.

As I said in another post, in my state, even toy guns are banned from schools.

I think there is a way to put on a play and leave out the guns. If not, then maybe that play is not appropriate for kids to perform at school.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #29
37. as a prop, sure.
What do you do for Oklahoma? Carrots in the holsters?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #37
51. Maybe for high school
But not in elementary schools.

Does anyone do Oklahoma anymore?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #51
61. they certainly still do
in Oklahoma. :)
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. They do in California as well
Prop guns and all.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. OMG! You can't even produce "Funny Girl" without toy guns...
or "South Pacific" or "Oklahoma!" or tons of other shows.

I guess students will be forced to repeat "Our Town" every year
from now on.

Sorry for the rant. I wasn't aiming at you personally.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. We used ones that were made out of wood
with exaggerated features so that NO mistake would be made.
I'm sorry--in today's climate of school shootings, nothing that resembles a real gun should be on a school campus.
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #17
87. so instead of teaching reality
you turn a violent weapon into a safe and friendly cartoon with exaggerated features. Kinda like Jerry crushing Tom's head with an iron.

Way to be responsible.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. Annie Get Your Gun
:nuke:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #7
24. I agree
No guns at school period. Real or fake.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #7
45. I find the idea...
that students/teachers can't use fake guns as props in school plays to be offensive.

Down right appalling, actually.

What the fuck next? Can't talk about wars in history class?

Sheesh.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #45
79. same here
Goddamn this country has jumped the shark in a biiiiiiig way :(
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #7
54. I've got no problem with a toy gun in a play
But it should have been carried straight to the drama room and back out, in a box of other props. It'll be interestin to see why this teacher was carrying this gun around the campus, which does seem a bit peculiar.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #7
57. Guess "Guy's and Doll's" is out for the school musical
geesh...

And -- it wasn't a gun! It was a prop.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:50 PM
Response to Original message
10. Here's the operative paragraph
"The sheriff's office said deputies were called to the school in Collier County, Fla., and found the teacher carrying the small plastic gun with a red tip in the back of his pants, but at no time was anyone in danger. He told deputies he found the toy in a prop box at the school and that it was used for a school play."

http://www.theindychannel.com/education/10060122/detail...

So the gun HAD BEEN used in a play AT SOME TIME. Somebody needs to take a closer look at this guy, but firing him seems a bit drastic.

Since he's been put on administrative leave with pay, that sounds like what they are doing.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #10
30. So why did he HAVE the gun
and in his back pocket?? Kudos to you for reading the article so closely. It sure doesn't smell right to me.
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:58 PM
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21. A 45 mm gun
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #21
35. is that a field artillery piece in your pocket
or are you happy to see me?
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Katzenjammer Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:21 PM
Response to Original message
31. The red barrel tip is the worldwide-standard marker that it's a toy/prop
That fact should let the teacher completely off the hook.

(For anyone who wants to try to argue that it shouldn't because anyone could paint a red tip on a real pistol, I'll just point out that anyone could wrap explosives around their body under their clothing, too...but nobody would be fool enough to argue that people should be punished for not going naked)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. But when that red tip is in his pocket
who is going to see it?
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Katzenjammer Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:34 PM
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36. When the pistol is in his pocket, who's going to shoot it?
If someone sees it, but doesn't recognise that it's a plastic toy, they can say 'is that a REAL gun??' and he can say 'no it's a toy I found in the prop box. It must have been used for a play at some time.'.

And if he's such a scary person that people would immediately believe he's carrying a real pistol and flee rather than check it out, then there's a lot more wrong there than the guy merely having a plastic prop in his pocket, no?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:40 PM
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40. Then why is he carrying it?
Intimidation is the only answer.
Kids don't need that kind of fear.
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Katzenjammer Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:04 PM
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50. Intimidation is the "only" answer??
I hardly think so. How many male teachers can you think of who'd need a pistol to intimidate ickle middle schoolers? I can't think of any. My three all considered the male teachers with one exception to be stern disciplinarians when they got to middle school, having only had female teachers in primary school.

What seems much more likely to me is that this luckless teacher stuck it in his pocket to get it out of the prop box and then either forgot about it or failed to have it cross his mind that someone could use it to manufacture a problem for him.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:07 PM
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53. No, intimidation is not the only answer
He may have been simply transporting it from one place to another.

The article does not provide enough information to make a determination of his state of mind or intentions.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:36 PM
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38. Fuckin' Florida...
what a fucked up shithole that state is. Someone go to Georgia and saw it off the continental US.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:23 PM
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63. Lovely. So you want to kick me, flvegan, and other DUers out of the US?
The state may have more than its share of crazies, but that's no reason to condemn everyone.

And if you were joking (more than likely), I still don't appreciate it.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:33 PM
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60. I'm glad I got out of teaching when I did.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:56 PM
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70. This irrational paranoia has to stop.
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 07:57 PM by Odin2005
For Christ's sake IT IS A TOY! Fear of school shootings has turned us into pathological paranoiacs. :eyes:
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bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:03 PM
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73. Funny to see fundamentalist thinking (Anti-gun) on this side isn't it?
This is the sort of pathetic, illogical, over-the-top insanity that has kept the Democratic Party out of any real running in dozens of races, (especially in the South, West and Midwest) for decades. :grr:

Where did this irrational fear of weapons (even TOYS, for fuck's sake!) come from??? :wtf:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:22 PM
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75. Colombine.
We've becoming a nation of scardy-cats because of 24-hour cable news using scary sensationalist crap as filler between important stories.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:03 PM
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81. Good post
:thumbsup:

I agree completely.
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greccogirl Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:07 PM
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74. OH, for god's sake;
how ridiculous have we gotten??
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:53 PM
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80. Very ridiculous
Obviously it was a toy and obviously it has no influence on the students other than being just one more prop in the play. It's not going to incite violence nor incite anyone to bring a gun. Give me a break.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:58 PM
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84. I question the teacher's judgment in carrying it around.
I also the question the judgement of a middle school doing plays which involves the use of a gun in this day and age. If it was indeed found in a theatrical prop box, it should been disposed of.

:headbang:
rocknation
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