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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:19 PM
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Mexico May Take Fence Dispute to U.N.
Mexico's foreign secretary said Monday the country may take a dispute over U.S. plans to build a fence on the Mexican border to the United Nations.

Luis Ernesto Derbez told reporters in Paris, his first stop on a European tour, that a legal investigation was under way to determine whether Mexico has a case.

The Mexican government last week sent a diplomatic note to Washington criticizing the plan for 700 miles of new fencing along the border. President-elect Felipe Calderon also denounced the plan, but said it was a bilateral issue that should not be put before the international community.

Derbez said Monday after meeting with French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy that it was a "shame" U.S. immigration policy had been used for what he claimed was a short-term political gain in the lead-up to midterm elections in the U.S. in November.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061009/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/m...
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:22 PM
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1. Good for them.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:23 PM
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2. As much as I think the fence is a terrible idea
as long as it's located on the US side of the border what business is it of Mexico's? I assumed that because of national sovereignty any country could do whatever they wanted to restrict their own borders.
:shrug:

Not that the US is any good at respecting anyone's sovereignty, mind you.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:26 PM
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3. Your post is exactly what I was going to say
Why can't the U.S. puts it up on our side of the border, even if it is a goofy idea.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:27 PM
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4. I thought the same thing - why not if it's on our land? n/t
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 01:49 AM
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13. That's right. Since when do they determine what the US does on t
its land?
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:33 PM
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5. The fence will never be built
In Border Fence's Path, Congressional Roadblocks
By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 6, 2006; Page A01

No sooner did Congress authorize construction of a 700-mile fence on the U.S.-Mexico border last week than lawmakers rushed to approve separate legislation that ensures it will never be built, at least not as advertised, according to Republican lawmakers and immigration experts...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:45 PM
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6. I can't imagine Mexico has standing on this...
The US is by any standard currently used a sovereign nation, and MANY nations have fenced borders.
In some nations, like the CIS a foreigner isn't allowed within many tens of kilometers of the border.

The fence is decidely a stupid waste of money, but it still is entirely on our territory.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:52 PM
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7. Virtual fence? So will it be everyone's imagination?
But shortly before recessing late Friday, the House and Senate gave the Bush administration leeway to distribute the money to a combination of projects -- not just the physical barrier along the southern border. The funds may also be spent on roads, technology and "tactical infrastructure" to support the Department of Homeland Security's preferred option of a "virtual fence."

Whenever I hear the word virtual I wonder if it exists. We had a store call Virtual Computer. Never went in. Thought it was a pretend store and would disappear if I went inside.


1. Existing or resulting in essence or effect though not in actual fact, form, or name: the virtual extinction of the buffalo.
2. Existing in the mind, especially as a product of the imagination. Used in literary criticism of a text.
3. Computer Science Created, simulated, or carried on by means of a computer or computer network:
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:32 PM
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8. Hyperpole and grand standing, nothing more
Mexico has no say in the matter if its on US soil, and has a damn site poorer record on its southern border

The fence itself will never be built as envisioned by most Americans, the same pols who voted for it have seen to that
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:57 PM
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10. Not to mention Mexico is
extremely hypocritical on this issue. They certainly don't allow free immigration. Naturalized ciizens are prevented from taking government jobs.

they ahve no moral or legal standing whatsoever on th eissue of the fence.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:44 PM
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9. Mr. President,
tear down this wall.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:39 PM
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11. K&R for TAKE IT to the LIMIT!!!!11 n/
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 01:10 AM
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12. BFD.
As long as it's on our side of the border, it's none of Mexico's business.
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Jim Stark Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 03:24 PM
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14. It's our country
they have no say whatsoever.

They need to fix their own damn country and stop exporting their problem.
My mom's best friend has lived there for the past 20 years, the stories of corruption are jaw dropping. They treat their people like shit.
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