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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:48 PM
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Chief executive of troubled Airbus resigns
<http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1891400,00.html >

"Louis Gallois, co-chief executive of EADS, the parent of Airbus, is to be the new head of the troubled European plane-maker, replacing Christian Streiff who has lost a power struggle to stay in office after just 100 days in the job.
The EADS board, which has seen its shares drop 36% this year amid the turmoil at Airbus, wants to seize full operational and management control of the plane-maker.

The move coincides with the group's cash purchase of BAE Systems' 20% stake in Airbus for a net 1.2bn. EADS said on July 2, when Mr Streiff replaced Gustav Humbert and Noel Forgeard was sacked as the parent's co-head, that it would "closely integrate" Airbus into its own organisational structure"
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:51 PM
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1. interesting.
hadn't heard they were having so much trouble.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:55 PM
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2. Boeing/Airbus is one corporate rivalry that has grabbed me
All I can say is, go Boeing.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:51 AM
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9. Screw Boeing
All they ever do is contribute to the rethug war machine and unbridled cronyism. At least Airbus respects it's workers rights. Can you say that for Boeing?
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lgn19087 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:37 PM
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16. Airbus is firing a bunch of their workers
because they suck so badly.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:31 AM
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17. Have you flown on an Airbus?
They are very nice planes with better aesthetics and comforts than what Boeing is putting out.
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lgn19087 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:35 PM
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3. Well, thats what you get
when your people work so few hours a week and get so much vacation. The labor policies over there have killed Airbus and they're slowly killing the rest of Europe as well.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:17 PM
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5. Because of these labor laws
poverty is almost eradicated and education is free for all in western europe. Unlike in the US workers have rights in western europe.
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lgn19087 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:11 PM
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7. Yeah, and because of these labor laws
Airbus can't get back on the right track. We can do cost-benefit analysis if you'd like, but lets be honest about what's causing their problems.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:24 AM
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8. Yeah, lets be honest about what's causing Airbus problems
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 01:27 AM by Orrin_73
its not the "labor laws"! Its because Airbus cant compete with Boeing. Every year Germany and France pump billions of euros into Airbus to compete with Boeing.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:55 AM
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10. The only reason Airbus is at a disadvantage vs. Boeing
is because of the gluttony of taxpayer funded military pork. If we could separate their overpriced military crap from the rest, Boeing wouldn't stand a chance.
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lgn19087 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:16 PM
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13. Airbus is at a disadvantage
because Boeing is better at making planes than Airbus is. Boeing's workforce works longer hours and gets less vacation, so is it any wonder that they do a better job?

And plus, Boeing made a better decision in going with the 787 rather than a "super-jumbo".
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:33 PM
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14. True...
better management, better worker productivity and better engineering has put Boeing miles ahead of Airbus. If things continue as they are I wouldn't be surprised to see Boeing buy Airbus.
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lgn19087 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:36 PM
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15. Don't count on it
Europe would never let their pride and joy get eaten up by an American corporation.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:59 PM
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4. airbus
With the A-380 program faltering, Singapore, Emirates Airlines are getting very angry, and
might cancel the whole order.......leaving Boeing with a windfall for their 747-800
and 787 programs!!!!!

More jobs that wont be sent overseas!!
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turbo_satan Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:39 PM
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6. Emirates just placed the order for their first bunch..
.. of 747s for air cargo. I believe it was a two- or three-billion dollar deal. They claim there will be an order for another ten planes soon.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:01 AM
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11. I really hope that Airbus pull this off and succeeds!
Airbus, and Europe need to show that you can respect the rights of your workers, and still be successful. I've had enough of the cuthroat, unbridled, capitalism. We need to care more about the workers, and social justice! Besides, anything to hurt the rethug funding machine that boeing has become is a good thing.
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