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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:34 AM
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Where Faith Abides, Employees Have Few Rights (unf***ingbelievable!)
This is the 2nd in a 4 part series.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/09/business/09religious....

October 9, 2006

Where Faith Abides, Employees Have Few Rights
By DIANA B. HENRIQUES

J. Jeffrey Heck, a lawyer in Mansfield, Ohio, usually sits on managements side of the table. The only employee cases I take are those that poke my buttons, he said. And this one really did.

His client was a middle-aged novice training to become a nun in a Roman Catholic religious order in Toledo. She said she had been dismissed by the order after she became seriously ill including a diagnosis of breast cancer.

In her complaint, the novice, Mary Rosati, said she had visited her doctor with her immediate supervisor and the mother superior. After the doctor explained her treatment options for breast cancer, the complaint continued, the mother superior announced: We will have to let her go. I dont think we can take care of her.

Some months later Ms. Rosati was told that the mother superior and the orders governing council had decided to dismiss her after concluding that she was not called to our way of life, according to the complaint. Along with her occupation and her home, she lost her health insurance, Mr. Heck said. Ms. Rosati, who still lacks health insurance but whose cancer is in remission, said she preferred not to discuss her experience because of her continuing love for the church.

more...

Here's the link to the first part which appeared on the frontpage of Sunday's NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/business/08religious....


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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:36 AM
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1. WTF?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:37 AM
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2. Hard to believe this since we know how persecuted all christians
are in this country.

Have you noticed all the "christian" churchs closed up and rotting while former parishioners hide in their homes scared to show their faces.
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:42 AM
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4. Can't say I've seen that
but there's a christian fascist mega church the size of the freaking Astro Dome around the corner from me. It can probably be seen from space.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:46 AM
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5. It hasn't been closed down yet
They are awful brave. You know the liberal agenda.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:40 AM
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3. Of course, if we had universal health care...
this wouldn't be an issue. Perhaps the Catholic Church could stop making money off the present system long enough to push for single-payer.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:48 AM
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6. If they got rid of some of their assets they'd be able to take
care of women like her.

Do you notice that the Vatican still has its art collection?

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:28 PM
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13. their assets are needed to pay for little boys who were rectally sodomized
By men who were into "youth counseling" with their zippers down
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:01 PM
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7. Um, doesn't the Catholic Church OWN AND OPERATE a lot of
those things called HOSPITALS???????

Why can't they display some of that "Christian charity" they are supposed to and treat the poor thing. And then keep her on as an employee (nun)?????

I think this is just more proof they are serving Mammon. Like we didn't already know........
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:23 PM
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9. Yes, that would be the Daughters of Charity
last time I checked they had over a 100 hospitals, but that was many years ago. It's probably more now.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:22 PM
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18. Oh, you mean the hospitals that fire all their womens health specialists?
A former doctor of mine made the FATAL MISTAKE of prescribing birth control pills for a woman and was fired by his Catholic Daughters of Charity employers. Several of his associates were fired when the "Daughters of Charity" took over thier medical clinics. Can't have no gynecologists who may do them evil abortions or prescribe them unchristian pills.

Thrifty Drug Headquarters in Los Angeles was bought by the Catholic Church. The Thrifty pharmacy on the ground floor was put out of business because they refused to obey an order to stop selling condoms.

Typical ignorant idiots worship Freddy and Freida Fetus when they are in the womb. Once the kids come out, they're on their own, and if the babies are starved to death or beaten to a pulp, well, these same sicko priests and nuns bullshit about God's will...
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:22 PM
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8. Another sterling example of that abiding Christian love. n/t
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:46 PM
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10. Seems Like a Dysfunctional Relationship
she preferred not to discuss her experience because of her continuing love for the church.



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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:31 PM
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20. Sounds exactly like a battered wife.
NT!

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:37 PM
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21. If I let god torture me constantly throughout life, he'll love me for ever
It's a business. It's sanctified delusion. It's fear and selfishness codified in a tidy cosmology.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:05 PM
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11. Link to DU thread on Sunday's article (part one of four)
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:11 PM
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12. So much for so-called Xtian charity...
Oh, I see...if you are sick and in need, the Ohio Catholic Church's policy is to say, "fuck you." How very Christ like...

J
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Taoschick Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:30 PM
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14. If religious organizations
Are not on an equal playing field with secular organizations, they are being given preferential treatment by government.

I believe the Church does have a right to decide who is "called" and who is not but the timing on this case is very ugly. If nothing else, they had a moral obligation to keepp Ms Rosati as a novice and provide treatment rather than throwing her into the street.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:32 PM
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15. They can pay out the rear to cover their pedophiles' acts
but, they cut the insurance and home out from under a cancerous patient. I'd say that was mighty fucking Christian of them.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:00 PM
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16. time for churches to come under fed regulations.
they get our tax dollars -- they can better well start to have toanswer for a few labour regs, health regs, child endangerment regs, etc.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:03 PM
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17. The Church that bears Christ's name has no Jesus in it
A shameful business decision.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:29 PM
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19. Um...since when was contracting cancer immoral?
WTF is this shit?

Fuck the Catholic church. First they cover up child rape, then they call gays evil, now this.

(Sorry, liberal Catholics. Your church doesn't deserve you!)

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:19 PM
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24. She must have had an abortion.
> Um...since when was contracting cancer immoral?

She must have had an abortion. After all, "everyone knows"
that having an abortion causes breast cancer.

("Everyone" that lives in the faith-based rather than
reality-based world, of course.)

Tesha
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:32 PM
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25. LOL, nice one.
NT!

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:06 PM
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22. didn't the Repugs exempt churches from civil rights and other
laws?
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:10 PM
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23. That makes sense. The Christian Reconstructionists want to bring back
slavery and obolish the US Constitution.
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