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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:56 AM
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US claims Guantanamo 'saved lives'
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1890381,0...

The interrogation of detainees at Guantanamo Bay has saved Britain from at least two major terrorist attacks, according to President George Bush's chief intelligence adviser.

John Negroponte, Director of National Intelligence, claims information obtained from inmates at the camp has proved vital in thwarting a series of terror attacks around the world, including in Britain. But the claim has provoked anger among human rights groups, which argue it is being used to justify a number of practices at Guantanamo that may constitute torture.

Mounting calls for Guantanamo to be shut down amid fears it is breaching international laws on human rights has prompted Negroponte's office to take the unusual step of publicly defending the controversial camp in Cuba.

A summary of the so-called 'High-Value Terrorist Detainee Program', states that 'reporting from terrorist detainees has become a crucial pillar of US counterterrorism efforts, representing the single largest source of insight into al-Qaeda for the US and its CT (counter-terrorism) partners. The detention of terrorists disrupts - at least temporarily - the plots they were involved in, saving the lives not only of Americans, but also of countless men, women and children around the globe.'
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:59 AM
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1. Yet they offer no evidence of any plot they disrupted or delayed....
Nope, it's too secret. You must trust them. And they are known for their veracity, aren't they?
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:33 AM
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2. Fine, then charge them, try them fairly and put them in jail like
civilized countries. Like back in the good old days.

'saving the lives not only of Americans, but also of countless men, women and children around the globe.'

I hate that language, like the main goal was to save Americans and the rest is just icing on the cake. As long as we reinforce this idea that our lives are worth more than any other nationality, Americans will keep swallowing this BS.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:46 AM
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3. Penalty! Foul!
Just cause you said so doesn't make it so, George!
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:09 AM
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4. Oh, puh-leeeze!
Like anyone is going to believe ANYTHING Negroponte says!
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:48 AM
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5. Yeah, just like The Inquisition saved lives.

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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:58 AM
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6. Good. Charge them, try them in a legal court, imprison them, then tell us
about the planned attack.

Or, shut the fuck up. Your choice.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:23 AM
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7. John Negroponte is no better than a pile of horse shit
John Negroponte is a known liar and a Iran/Contra convict that should be shelling peanuts in a zoo with junior.


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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:59 AM
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8. Negroponte is a pathetic excuse for a human
Disgusting. Beneath contempt.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:24 PM
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9. I'd like to know one life it's saved
There have been no prosecutions. No plots detected. The only plot that was broken up was the one the British broke up using good policework. I am so sick of these assholes' lies.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:55 PM
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10. simple: when they pull your head up from underwater, they saved yur life
So any waterboarding is really combination torture and lifeguard duty.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:22 PM
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12. LOL
:rofl: You have a very twisted way of looking at things. I'm glad you're on our side.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:55 PM
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13. they're probably going to save our lives the same way...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:56 PM
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11. same thing with mop handles. there's probably a guy who marks them
with felt pens, you know, a 'don't insert past this line.' That probably saves lives too.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:42 PM
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14. The Observer should correct that headline
US Bush Regime cliams Guantanamo 'saved lives'

Please do not confuse the unfortunate nation and its dictator.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:50 AM
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15. US says the same thing about Nagasaki and Hiroshima
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Have to check with Japan and see if they agree
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