(Rep. Chris) Cannon: Teens "egging on" Foley in online sex scandal

[sabra]

http://www.sltrib.com/contentlist/ci_4451609

Cannon: Teens "egging on" Foley in online sex scandal

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"These kids are actually precocious kids," Cannon, R-Utah, told KSL Radio's Nightside. "It looks like uh, maybe this one email is a prank where you had a bunch of kids sitting egging this guy on."

...

"Frankly, this is the responsibility of the parents," Cannon said. "If you get online you may find people who are creepy. There are creepy people out there who will do and say creepy things. Avoid them. That's what you have to do. And maybe we can say that a little more to the pages."

Democrats reacted to the comments with disgust.
"It's outrageous and irresponsible," said Christian Burridge, a Democrat challenging Cannon in the 3rd Congressional District. "You have a district here with the most children in the United States in a congressional district and we've got a congressman blaming an absolutely irresponsibly outrageous conduct that needs to be investigated on the victims. That sends a horrible message to the victims of sex crimes."

Cannon's remark about kids "egging on" Foley refers to an unsubstantiated report by the online Drudge Report that said an initial email cited in the scandal was a "prank." No other news media has confirmed that report, and since then three other pages have come forward to say they received lurid messages from Foley.

[MadMaddie]

1. Yea the guy is so weak that he can't control his 52 year old self

blame the victims....this will backfire on them....

[saigon68]

15. He couln't keep his wand behind his own zipper

[bif]

2. Dupe?

[Stand and Fight]

10. No. Two different news sources. n/t

[slackmaster]

3. I wish Foley would fast-forward to the end, find God, and be done with it

:nuke:

[ovidsen]

4. Ohhhh, so Foley is a "victim"???

Cannon's logic comes from the same school of responsibility that says rape victims encourage their attackers.

A supreme POS here.

[Maven]

5. BLAME THE VICTIM

We're at stage 2, folks.

[Buzz Clik]

9. bingo.

[Adamocrat]

13. Blame Anyone Except The Repedophiles!

The victim? The Democratic Party? The press? Alcohol? His evil twin?

[Luminous Animal]

6. Catapulting the propaganda...

"Ex-Page's Lawyer: Drudge's "Prank" Story "A Piece of Fiction""

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001739.php

[kenny blankenship]

7. Republican: "THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PARENTS"

just thought I'd underline that. According to Republican Chris Cannon it's the pages' parents who are to blame for this sexual harrassment scandal.

[Buzz Clik]

14. It's clear that the parents are doing their part --

That's why Foley is up to his ass in alligators right now.

[htuttle]

16. Since the controlling party in Congress was acting 'in loco parentis'....

...doesn't that mean he's blaming his own party???


What an idiot of the first order.

[qnr]

48. Technically, it is the fault of the parents. If they'd been Democrats,

their children would have become Democratic pages, and would have been safe,

[tblue37]

66. Those parents he is slamming are affluent Republican

loyalists! There is no other way their kids would have had a chance to be a congressional page for the Repubs.

Way to piss off those who have supported you, pal.

[Divine Discontent]

73. EXACTLY!

someone needs (who knows who the parents are of some of the pages, esp. the 1st known ones) to send his message to them and see if they love their beloved repuke party NOW that they're so gladly throwing the families into the "at fault" group!

so the point being by this guy is, "we can rape, coerce and seduce your kids all we want unless you are responsible and tell them to not even speak to us" SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- antibush prodem stickers/shirt

[Skittles]

8. one question for Mr. Cannon

would you be saying this if Foley was a Democrat? If not, you are nothing more than a republican whore and in my mind Cannon is as slimy as Foley

[Stand and Fight]

23. No, he would not for sure...

He was one of the asshole's who prosecuted the case against President Clinton and had some strong words to boot.

[RedSock]

44. oh of course he would!!!!!!!!!!!

for example, if hillary was caught having sent scores of similar text messages to underaged girls for years, all of the repubs would blame the parents and let hillary completely off the hook.

yup, that's what they'd do all right.

[Skittles]

72. you know it, RedSock

it's a question I often think of because I know for sure I would not be making excuses for Mr. Foley if he was a Democrat - I'd want his ass out of there and I'd want accountability from Democrats if they were in power too.

[skooooo]

11. OMG

Well, I hope Cannon gets plenty of national news coverage so everyone can hear what he has to say.

[Buzz Clik]

12. I wonder who taught Foley to type IMs with just one hand...

[Critters2]

67. There's an image I won't be able to get out of my head.

Thanks. Thanks a heap. :banghead:

[liberalmuse]

17. Blech!

Those of us in Utah who dislike this man DETEST him with a passion. What do you expect a 'pub from Utah, "the incest and child rape state" to say?

[brentspeak]

18. Now it's the "parents' fault"

[NorthernSpy]

19. that's the "Party of Personal Responsibility", folks!

:rofl:

Naughty precocious youth tormenting that sad GOPederast!

:spank:

[Stand and Fight]

20. And the people of Utah will probably re-elect this asshole again...

From a wikipedia article on the race:

Cannon will face Democrat Christian Burridge,<1> a consumer rights attorney and graduate of Brigham Young University's J. Reuben Clark Law School, in November, as well as Jim Noorlander (Constitution party) <2> and Phil Hallman (Libertarian party). A recent poll conducted for the Deseret Morning News and KSL TV had Cannon leading Burridge 53% to 26%. Noorlander pulled 4% while Hallman brought in 3%.

[filer]

21. "There are creepy people out there..."

Yeah...Congressional Republicans. "Avoid them". Ha...Ha!
:rofl:

[GreenPartyVoter]

22. He's been reading Drudge, hasn't he?

[AngryOldDem]

24. This is all such unmitigated BULLSHIT

<<"Frankly, this is the responsibility of the parents," Cannon said. "If you get online you may find people who are creepy. There are creepy people out there who will do and say creepy things. Avoid them. That's what you have to do. And maybe we can say that a little more to the pages."<<


Why is it that whenever these fuckers get caught red-handed, it's always SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT/OVERSIGHT/LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY? Or whatever other excuse they can think of to avoid accepting due blame? I got my belly full of this stuff at the height of the Catholic Church scandal when higher-ups actually blamed the parents of the victims for having trust in the priests with whom they left their kids. This is the same "justification" at work here.

Never anyone's fault but the victim's. Nope, never.

:mad: :puke:

[Moderator]

25. K

[mhatrw]

26. Rep. Chris Cannon Dismisses Foley Scandal (Blames Pages)

http://www.newwest.net/index.php/topic/article/rep_chris_cannon_dismisses_foley_scandal/C71/L37/

Ex-Florida Representative Mark Foley is under investigation for allegedly having lascivious conversations with minors through email and instant messages. The minors involved were part of the Congressional Page Program.

At a fund-raiser for School Choice Millard asked Rep. Cannon what he thought of the scandal. "There’s not much we can do except educate kids to the dangers. Frankly, this is the responsibility of the parents – If you get online you may find creepy people who will do and say creepy things – avoid them," Cannon said. ...

If these comments weren’t enough Cannon went on to say that the pages were "precocious kids" who "egged {Congressman Foley} on."

"It looks like this one email was a prank - a bunch of kids sitting around, egging this guy on," Cannon continued. "The world is a complicated place."

[Raster]

27. gotta love those good ol' rethuglican values...Blame the Victims!

[zonkers]

32. Time for some victims's advocate spoksemen to get some face time on TV

and shame this popular stance.

[Stand and Fight]

28. Good night... I love Republicans lately.

Really, this guy and Denney Hastert are about the best damn players on our team. They keep this up and we'll sweep the HoR. }(

[Divine Discontent]

75. I say good night a lot

and I love V! and I agree with you, with enemies like Hastert and this Utah bonehead, who needs friends? LOL

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- antibush prodem stickers/shirt

[deadparrot]

29. Idiot.

I suppose all pervs caught by cops posing as kids online are also free from wrongdoing, because they were being tricked as well. :eyes:

Foley instigated (and chose to pursue) inappropriate conversations (and god knows what else) from minors. Period.

[Stand and Fight]

30. Oh yeah.... Recommended. n/t

[Luminous Animal]

31. It looks like Cannon is spreading Drudge's lie..

"Ex-Page's Lawyer: Drudge's "Prank" Story "A Piece of Fiction""

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001739.php

[skypilot]

33. Quite frankly...

...I hope they keep saying shit like this. It's going to rub lots of people wrong. I hope they keep saying this kind of shit right up to the midterm elections.

[me b zola]

49. That's exactly how I feel.

Get these guys a bigger shovel! :rofl:

[Gregorian]

34. Why is this newsworthy?

Why are the news companies repeating this stuff?

To me, this is the issue. They all but ignored the Downing Street memos. But amplify the bullshit.



Edit- Hahaha! I see how others in this thread are thinking. Now I just don't know... :)

[Hepburn]

35. Oh, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeee-suh!

:mad: (Where is the "finger" icon when you really need one?)

If Cannon had a 16-year old son or daughter who was a Congressional page and that child had gotten some message from a US Congressperson about coming over and having oral sex, is Cannon going to say that he as a parent should have done more to stop that conduct? That it was his fault and his child's fault? GMAFB...

What an asshole!

[warrens]

36. We all know what hot little bitches

Those little campus Republicans are. Seriously, have you ever seen a College Republican who looked like anything but a repressed gay guy trying to act macho? No, you haven't. Most of my gay friends act a LOT straighter than these queens-in-mufti. Cannon may have a point here. That doesn't excuse Foley trying to get in their pants, though, or sending them porn. Somehow, though, I think some of these pages are going to grow up to be little Roy Cohns: I'm not gay, I just like to fuck boys, in his illustrious words.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

37. Excellent.

Another resignation to demand.

[jkshaw]

38. Cannon

Chris Cannon is from Utah, what do we expect? Even our lone Democratic congressman, Jim Mattheson, is a Republican -- look at his voting record.

[savemefromdumbya]

39. So Cannon admits Foley is creepy?

[truthisfreedom]

40. and if this creepy person happens to be in a position of power and author-

ity in your life, for the rest of your career, pick another job. right, cannon? isn't that exactly what you're saying, cannon?

f*cking useless corrupt anti-American thug.

[htuttle]

41. So, who was acting 'in loco parentis' for the pages at the time?

Hmm?? Wasn't it the Republicans?

Rep. Cannon is the worst type of idiot -- a desperate one.

[onenote]

42. I don't remember Cannon calling Lewinsky "precocious"

for coming on to Clinton...

[Drifter]

59. Fair enough then ...

They had better release every one of the Pervs that Dateline NBC has lured with their "To Catch a Preditor" segments. After all, this is simple a case of being egged on by a person who is not even underage (No harm no foul). You can not expect these people to be responsible for their actions when they are being baited by children.

<sarcasm>

Cheers
Drifter

[Stalwart]

43. The FBI

Should have undertaken this investigation long ago and "egged" him on until he hung himself.

[Kagemusha]

45. What's a Congressman doing quoting Drudge word for word?

That's pretty lowly, isn't it?

[truthisfreedom]

46. what accusations are next? Democrats "egging on" the terrorists, causing

9-11?

[leQ]

47. i wonder if the word hypocrite applies here.

[onenote]

50. aren't "hypocrite" and "Republican" synonyms?

[madrchsod]

51. here`s some special friends of his

seems not everyone in utah loves cannon....http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/CannonWatch.html

avoid them? no you turn their sick asses in dumb fuck...i`m sorry but are these guys the dumbist fucking people on the planet?

[ToeBot]

52. It wonder if this will get the airplay it deserves?

The local ABC affiliate is owned by Clear Channel, NBC's by the Mormons, so I'm guessing no. Not that any coverage would make much difference in the election, UT-3 is one of the reddest districts in the country, but it's always nice to see Cannon exposed as the utter incompetent that he is. The man is nothing but a voting placeholder for the Republican party line. He cant even funnel a little pork into the district. And why should he, his "calling and election are made sure" there's no reason to even appear efficacious. On those rare occasions whey he's not blindly following the dictates of the Republican leadership, he's taking orders from his lobbyist and elder brother, Joe Cannon. The Cannon brothers, a pair of grifters Utah will never be free of and deservedly so. Why does Utah elect such terrible politicians? Because no one else would.

[rocktivity]

53. As Sam Seder put it so beautifully this morning

"Hastert said he took full reponsibility--then proceeded to put the responsiblity on everyone else!"

:eyes:
rocknation

[Gregorian]

54. The devil made me do it.

I'll never forget when Wilson was governor of California. He had this thing he called "Smoke a joint- lose your license". You get caught smoking a joint and you lose your life, basically. So we've got Limbaugh walking around like the big fat drug addict he is. And then now we have Foley.

What I'm getting at is the republicans have destroyed our ability to vote. They own the judicial system. They own the airwaves. They have destroyed the country by dragging us into illegal wars.

What do we do? It really appears hopeless.

It's like there are no adults in America. It's like all of those McMansions are empty of people.

[LynzM]

55. Oh, good lord. Blame the victims.

Sure, so if I egg somebody on until they hit on me, that's my fault? Especially when they should more than know better? Puh-lease. :eyes: Ridiculous.

[kestrel91316]

56. Poor, poor Markie. Those evil kids just led him on so bad

that he couldn't control himself and masturbated while waiting for a House vote.

HE'S the VICTIM here............:puke:

[flyarm]

57. i just called his dc office and ripped him a new asshole! may i suggest

others get on the phone and let this asshole get a piece ofyour mind...

i said as a parent ..i am so highly offended by Cannons statements,, and his irresponsible statements ..that any parent that raises a child 16-17 years old should be equally offended and disgusted with his statement..

i said Foley was a 52 year old man and that congress.. not the parents.. were responsible for the care of these children while in DC..and that Cannon ought to go stick his head back up his ass.. as far as he can..because he certainly has no clue about children! or responsiblity as an adult! and i said i would be sending money to anyone who runs against him!

fly

[Maeve]

58. Can't cheat an honest man, can't play someone who isn't a player

He's been chasing young tail for years and finally got caught. If he hadn't already quit and blamed 1)the bottle and 2)abuse in his own youth, this ploy MIGHT have worked, but now it's just....:eyes:

[nashville_brook]

60. when are these teens going to APOLOGIZE for their wanton ways??

[BlueEyedSon]

61. So.... impeach MOINICA'S MOM, not the Big Dog you hypocrite!

[damntexdem]

62. Oh, a poor, innocent member of Congress ...

ensnared by the wiles of sophisticated, worldly teenage pages! LOL!

[Matariki]

63. Oh yeah, just keep talking ASSHAT

it's good for you and your party.

[janx]

64. Precisely!

This stuff is so disgusting that every time the guy opens his mouth about it, more people will vote Dem.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

65. Americans don't feel pity for the predators on Dateline NBC every Friday

And neither will they for Hastert.

Think about it, on Dateline the predators are egged on and lured into a trap, where they are then made to squirm on camera and then thrown on the ground and cuffed for Americas viewing pleasure. I'd like to point out how successful that program is and suggest that Americans are not about to buy into this pathetic attempt to blame the victims. When it comes to the internet, sex and anyone under the age of 18 being stalked by an older man in his 50s, they've already made up their minds.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

68. So the underage boys were brazenly seducing him

while the intern who was a legal adult was totally victimized.

Stop the spin, guys...You're making yourselves dizzy!

[KansDem]

69. Sure, teens "egged him on" for...what? 10-11 years now?

:eyes:

[Jackpine Radical]

70. "Kin I give ya a blowjob, Mr. Clinton? (Kin I call you Bill?)

Kin I please, huh? There aren't a lotta chubby Jewish girls that have ever given the President a blowjob. Kin I, Bill?"

[olddad56]

71. Well said, if it happens to a Republican, it was a plot....

Foleygate was a plot that the Dems hatched to trap Foley. A huge conspiracy where the Dems enlisted the aid of lots of under aged boys over a period of years.

Now the Monica deal, no way could that have ever been a plot by the Republicans, who had been out to get the guy since before 1992, and would have only needed to enlist one tramp. Well, two, I forgot about the failed attempt with Paula Jones.

[yorkiemommie1]

74. what a lame, convoluted excuse

First of all this is a lie.

If, for some odd reason, a grown up man, an officeholder in congress, is stupid enough to be 'egged on' by kids, and be drawn into games, then he's dumber than a bag of rocks and should be sent out to pasture.

[Divine Discontent]

77. amen!!! n/t

[leesa]

76. Someone needs to remind Loose Cannon that those are Republican

constituents he just pissed all over! These guys are so used to spinning they just don't know which way they're turning on this one!

[bilgewaterbill]

78. What a MAROON! nt