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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:10 PM
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Guardian:U.K. Paper Says Has Unseen 9/11 Video
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 06:35 PM by cal04
A previously unseen video made by Mohammed Atta, ringleader of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, has been obtained by a Britain's The Sunday Times, the newspaper reported Saturday.

In editions available late Saturday, the paper said it had been handed the so-called martyrdom video, but did not reveal the source of the tape.

It reported that Atta was filmed reading a document marked in Arabic as a will as he sat beside fellow hijacker Zaid Jarrah - who seized control of United Airlines flight 93, which crashed into a field in Shanksville, Pa.

The newspaper said that a timecode stamp on the videotape indicated it had been recorded on January 18, 2000 and the recording was made at an al-Qaida training camp in Afghanistan.

more
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6116857...

Focus: Chilling message of the 9/11 pilots
See the video from noon today
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2382788,00...
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:12 PM
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1. Gee, for this election, we get the rare ATTA video! Wow!
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 06:21 PM by PSPS
The "timestamp" on my VCR says it's midnight on 1/1/2000. So I guess Clinton is still president.
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EstoniaKat Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:37 PM
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9. Yep, you are funny stuff ...
These guys are laughing at your joke.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:14 PM
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2. Sounds like BushInc released it to point blame back at Clinton.
Damn - - this stuff needed airing 4 or 5 YEARS AGO. Now, BushInc is taking focus OFF Iraq and their lies by pushing the 9-11 is Clinton's fault again meme.

Sheesh
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:15 PM
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3. How nice of them to timestamp their video.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:26 PM
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7. Between that and keeping their buddy lists updated on their cell phones
well ----> those Terrorists are just way too considerate!

BTW Did you know that most of those names on "Terrorist" cell phone registries are that of Democratic Strategists and Political Representatives in the USA? ;) :sarcasm: :puke:

Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:29 PM
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4. No soundtrack? How's that work?
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 06:29 PM by daleo
"There was no soundtrack, the newspaper said. It quoted an unnamed U.S. source as saying that attempts to lip read the tape to transcribe the content had been unsuccessful."

On edit - Maybe it was from the silent era.

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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:36 PM
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5. I'm sure they meant a training camp in IRAQ
not Afghanistan... must be a typo!
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:06 PM
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6. Atta was in Germany at that time, being trailed by the CIA.
January-May 2000: CIA Has Atta Under Surveillance

Hijacker Mohamed Atta is put under surveillance by the CIA while living in Germany. He is reportedly observed buying large quantities of chemicals in Frankfurt, apparently for the production of explosives for biological warfare. The US agents reported to have trailed Atta are said to have failed to inform the German authorities about their investigation, even as the Germans are investigating many of his associates.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a01...
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:40 PM
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8.  the video was found in the rubble of the wtc...
someone who found it, an ex fbi agent who was walking his dog, knew the bushevikies would toss it down the 'memory hole' and outta frustration he sent it to the brits guardian newspaper, a leftist rag which would surely bring it to public attention....the bottle he put the video in took years to get to england, due to contrary tidal currents and the gulf stream acting up due to global warming....but fortunately someone found the bottle on the shore, read the message and delivered the tape to the guardian newsroom in time for the midterm congressionals!
god (allah) works in mysterious ways, that's for sure....
still, imagine sending the one/only copy of a miraclulous 911 pertinent video to a foreign newspaper in a bottle!
keeerist!
now we've seen everything....
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:57 PM
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21. "god (allah) works in mysterious ways"? That phrase is outmode now


Under the Rove/Bush regime. It's now translated as "KKKarl works in mysterious ways".
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 05:53 PM
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22. 'there is no god but turdblossom!'....
sorta rings out with spiritual flatulence, don't it?
:rofl:
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:24 PM
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10. He recorded his will almost two years in advance and people think
we haven't been attacked in five years because Bush is doing such a heckofa job. God, I wish somebody with a brain was in charge of this country.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:56 PM
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11. The laughing 9/11 bombers (new pre-9/11 film has emerged)
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 09:44 PM by truthpusher
This is weird seeing this... I just finished watching "United 93" less than 5 minutes ago... this video is of the pilot who flew United 93 into the ground...



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2383229,00...

The Sunday Times October 01, 2006


The laughing 9/11 bombers
Yosri Fouda

Exclusive film of suicide pilots at Bin Ladens HQ

FILM of the ringleader of the September 11 hijackers reading his martyrdom will inside Afghanistan at Osama Bin Ladens headquarters has emerged five years after the Al-Qaeda outrage.

It is the first time that a videotape has appeared of Mohammed Atta who flew an American Airlines plane into the north tower of the World Trade Center at a training camp in Afghanistan. It fills in a significant gap in the timing of the build-up to the attacks on the United States.

Dates on the tape show Atta was filmed on January 18, 2000, together with Ziad Jarrah, the pilot of United Airlines flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania after the passengers apparently stormed the flight deck.

The Sunday Times has obtained a copy of the video through a previously tested channel. The tape has no soundtrack and a US source said lip readers had tried without success to decipher what was being said.

(snip)

The high quality, unedited film shows Bin Laden addressing his followers at the mud-walled complex near Kandahar. One of the main figures in the September 11 plot, Ramzi Binalshibh, is identifiable in the crowd, as is a bodyguard whose task was to kill Bin Laden with two bullets to the head if he faced capture.

Dating on the tape indicates that the Al-Qaeda leader was filmed on January 8, 2000, 10 days before Atta and Jarrah recorded their wills.

(snip)

link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2383229,00...
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:56 PM
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12. tape provided by dick cheney, who has kept it in reserve til now? nt
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:56 PM
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13. 01/18/2000 - to try and blame it on Clinton.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:56 PM
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14.  Atta was in Germany at that time, being trailed by the CIA.
January-May 2000: CIA Has Atta Under Surveillance

Hijacker Mohamed Atta is put under surveillance by the CIA while living in Germany. He is reportedly observed buying large quantities of chemicals in Frankfurt, apparently for the production of explosives for biological warfare. The US agents reported to have trailed Atta are said to have failed to inform the German authorities about their investigation, even as the Germans are investigating many of his associates.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a01...
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:07 PM
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15. Here's what Tenet told Congress in 02:
Unclassified Version of
Director of Central Intelligence George J. Tenet's Testimony before the
Joint Inquiry into Terrorist Attacks Against the United States

18 June 2002

.. The Hamburg pilots traveled to Afghanistan in late 1999 ..

Atta (#1) flew from Hamburg to Istanbul in late 1999, then on to Karachi, Pakistan. After that, he evidently traveled into Afghanistan.

According to information acquired after the 11 September attacks, Atta (#1) and al-Shehhi (#6) were both present at Bin Ladin facilities in Afghanistan in late 1999; Atta's presence has been corroborated by a separate source ..

Jarrah's (#16) travel at this time mirrored Atta's, flying from Hamburg to Istanbul and then on to Karachi in late 1999 ..

Jarrah (#16) returned to Hamburg in January and on 9 February 2000, reported that his passport had been lost. He received a visa from the US Embassy in Berlin in May 2000.

Atta (#1) returned to Hamburg in February 2000. In March, he sent e-mails to flight schools in Florida and Oklahoma asking about pilot training. Atta received a new Egyptian passport from the Egyptian consulate in Hamburg on 8 May 2000. On the 18th, he was issued a visa by the US Embassy in Berlin ..

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_hr/061802tenet.htm...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:13 PM
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16. Must of been one of his known doubles
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:58 PM
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17. Um ... am I missing something?
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 11:58 PM by BattyDem

If there's no soundtrack and the attempts to lip read the tape to transcribe the content were unsuccessful, how do they know it's a martyrdom video? :shrug:
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:26 AM
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18. Next up boys and girls,
The Atta/Jarrah jackass movie. Maybe they'll do the wedgie thing.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:46 PM
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19. The Grauniad* says The Sunday Times has the video
The Sunday Times is part of the Murdoch media empire

repeat Murdoch

*Grauniad = Guardian because long ago in a sub-eds room far away they were infamous for their typos
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:54 PM
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20. i wonder if this was the video that bob schieffer showed on FTN this am
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