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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:45 AM
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Biden says he's going to run

http://media.www.dailyiowan.com/media/storage/paper599/...

Biden says he's going to run

Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., bucked a trend by announcing his intention to run for president over the weekend - distinguishing himself from other visiting hopefuls who have dodged the question on their respective visits to Iowa.

Biden swept through eastern Iowa on Sept. 23, stumping and raising money for Democratic congressional hopeful Dave Loebsack during a two-day tour of the state.

"I'm coming back next year to do something else," Biden said near the end of his speech in Cedar Rapids, referring to next fall's run-up to Iowa's January 2008 caucuses, which signal the official start of the presidential election cycle.

Delaware's senior senator touched on health care, the minimum wage, the balance of power in Congress, and the overall direction of the country to the crowd of roughly 40 Democratic supporters.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:47 AM
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1. blah
The less you know about Biden the better he looks.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 01:09 PM
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35. Biden is poll worthy..
That is, if anyone cares to do a poll about him running..

I don't see him as a strong viable candidate. imo, of course.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 10:45 PM
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53. after the vote on the bankruptcy bill he's lost my support
forget Biden
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #53
65. Yes the Senator from MBNA throws his HAT in the Ring
And the toilet flushes
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 11:55 PM
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57. The only support Biden will get is from a jockstrap.
How does he sleep at night, knowing he's destroyed millions of families with his so-called "bankruptcy reform"?
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:03 AM
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60. He's running on a platform of appeasement. A sure winner.
Fuck Biden and everything about him. He has NO spine.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 12:52 PM
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63. Appeasing whom? nt
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:34 PM
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67. Appeasing the Administration and the Republican-dominated Congress
All the man could say about the war (after it had been going on for over a year) was that it was basically water under the bridge and that we should just concentrate on finishing what we started - of course he gave NO suggestions on how to go about that. He also appeased the Republican-controlled Congress and the credit card companies by voting for that disgusting credit bill. Any of this ring a bell?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:47 AM
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2. Here's my celebration thread from a few months ago.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:29 PM
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30. I like Joe !
:toast:
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:38 PM
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43. I don't like anyone
who has their noses so far up corporate america's backsides as to promote and vote for a bill that targets those less fortunate! i.e. Bankruptcy Bill which mainly hurts those that are devastated by divorce, job loss or health. AND, the damned thing, does not even cut our soldiers any slack! Military family's bankruptcies (as are many others) are at a record high!

No way, Biden can kiss my happy backside! Freakin' bloviating blowhard.

JMVHO.

Jenn
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:24 PM
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70. I still like Joe :)
Then again, I live in Virginia, and we like Charlie Manson better than George Felix Allen !
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:16 PM
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46. I like him too...
But I know many people who hate him. I'm sure he's had his share of flip flopping...
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:30 PM
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71. Joe rates higher on my '08 Wish List than....
Hil,JK and Wes. Hope that made sense :silly: me.

I cannot wait for Nov 8, the day after mids, the day Dems are released from their shoots 'n' PACs. It will be great fun :toast:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:35 PM
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76. Yes, Biden is good for sound bytes for Gentleman's Quarterly...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:47 AM
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3. And He's Going to Lose!
He has the intelligence and charm, but regrettably too much pride and arrogance.

Biden makes good speeches before he rolls on his back for republican majority tummy rubs. :-)

Presidential Material, he is NOT.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:49 AM
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6. I know someone who went to Syracuse Law with him who said his reputation
was that he was not smart at all.

Where did this idea that he was smart come from?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:53 AM
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8. Perhaps because he does present himself well. Maybe you're right
and it's the "Reagan Acting talent" that many of us mistake for intelligence.

Either way, Biden voted for The Corporate Elites with regard to The Bankruptcy Bill. Not good. :(

I don't think he's a horrible Democratic Senator, but I wouldn't vote for him as President.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:58 AM
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9. Remember what happened to him last time!
Edited on Mon Sep-25-06 09:03 AM by acmejack
Apparently Joe doesn't!

Profile: PLTC-1987-JRB

Name: Joseph R. Biden, Jr.

War on Plagiarism Threat Level: Red: Severe Risk

Occupation: Politician, US Senator (Delaware)


Allegations: Repeated instances of plagiarism since the stressless scholarship of his college days


Results: Circulation of attack video by Dukakis campaign torpedoed his presidential aspirations in 1987

Known for: Glib oratorical skills and speechmaking


Overview: Joe Biden's history of plagiarism and stressless scholarship gave plenty of ammo to his enemies, one of them choosing to circulate a so-called attack video to demonstrate Biden's outright plagiarism of a British politician's speech. But this appropriation from Neal Kinnock was not the first occurrence of unacknowledged lifting by the senator from Delaware.

In 1965 Biden plagiarized while writing a paper as a student at the Syracuse University Law School in a legal methods course which he failed because of that copied paper. Such stressless scholarship as it is euphemistically called has become all too common in the modern Internet era with countless cheatsites and research services; offering to sell students papers on topics from A to Z.

Biden's case demonstrates that student plagiarism is nothing new. Only the methods of cheating have changed. Today, cheating has gone digital with the proliferation of Internet based paper filing and distributions systems, but the principles or lack thereof are the same. And as the Biden case illustrates, getting caught for such academic dishonesty may have serious ramifications for one's political career. Joe Biden's failed bid for the Democratic ticket is a case in point.

Stressless scholarship may seem like a pretty good idea at the time that many students make that decision to crib, copy, or dowload a paper off the Internet, but in Biden's case the plagiarism of his student days came back to haunt his bid for the democratic presidential nomination like a spectre from his past.

edit fpor format issues.


http://www.famousplagiarists.com/politics.htm
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:45 PM
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77. Has the dipshit never heard of footnotes?
Footnotes are the difference between plagiarism and research.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 10:35 AM
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20. Intelligence and charm. Where?
The guy was a stupid mean spiteful mysoginistic bastard during the Clarence Thomas hearings. The son of a bitch showed what a horrid excuse of an anything he is.

Now that he's the corporate butt boy for the credit card companies, he's proved that he's still the slimey cretin he was back then. This leopard can't change his spots.

He hasn't got the proverbial snowball's chance in hell.

Intelligence and charm. That's funny.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:48 AM
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4. I hope we have a good candidate who is NOT a senator and IS from
a flippable red state. Regardless, I don't think Biden has much of a chance anyway.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:48 AM
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5. gonna run ... outta supporters
Just how out of touch with reality is he?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:50 AM
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7. Surprise, suprise.
Not. Is this why he rushes toward any available camera?
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:56 PM
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33. The most dangerous place in America, is between
Joe Biden and a television camera... :toast:
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:58 PM
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45. Really? When he isn't seen, then he's a whimp. Listen to him next time.
He has been correct on the mishandling of Iraq and vocal about it. When asked, he has given thoughtful answers and not fallen under the spell of *. So if he runs, let him get out some logical truths. It will do us all some good.
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SDDEM06 Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:58 AM
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10. He's going to run!
and then he's going to swim a few laps, hit the weights and finish up with a sauna.

But enough about his schedule at the gym...
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:12 PM
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28. LOL! That was good.
Besides it would mess up the investment he made in his hair with all that activity. :rofl:

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:59 AM
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11. Oh brother....I'll look forward to his preening and posturing..
What a tool. Even though his voting record is not horrible, I think I dislike him more than any other Dem Senator on the basis of personality. Maybe even on par with Leiberman. Every time Biden opens his mouth it just seems way more obviously calculating and designed to get him press and attention than it does for most other people. I am not naive and realize this is the case with most politicians but with Biden I just think he's so shitty at hiding it. And it's made worse because he so desparately wants to be seen as some type of straight talking maverick type of McCain figure.

No thanks, Joe.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:59 AM
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12. I'm not feeling any enthusiasm
:boring:
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 10:58 PM
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54. I'm feeling less than none
:hurts:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:00 AM
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13. My Absolute last choice for the nomination
Hillary is my second to last choice, btw.

Right now I am leaning toward Clark. Finegold interests me too, but I have some concerns.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:01 AM
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14. Well, SOMEBODY has to finish last
and it might as well be him.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:03 AM
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15. Why. n/t
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:08 AM
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16. Biden is a good Democrat...and a good Senator...
But his day has past...

He is very articulate and can be very funny...I have attended a couple of speeches he has given and he can be very engaging...

But I just can't see him catching fire...


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Exiled in America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:30 PM
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69. ..for me to poop on.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:15 AM
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17. Biden is Chamber of Commerce insurance in case GOP loses
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:19 AM
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18. ANIMATION: How Biden stands up to the GOP
With special guest appearance by Joe Lieberman:

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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:34 AM
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19. biden has been trying to get his hands ON THE CHAIR since waaaaaay back.
he ought to just give up...of course this is a FREE COUNTRY and he has his right not to give up.
i have my right to puke. :puke: :puke: :puke:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 10:40 AM
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21. Far Away? Thank Gawd! n/t
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 10:43 AM
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22. Uh, Joe, let me explain how it works. First, you have to
find people who will support your candidacy. I don't know how many relatives you have, but it's probably not enough to make much of an impact. Save your money.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 10:44 AM
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23. Joe, put the bong down, Joe.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 10:45 AM
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24. Well, when he comes knocking on my door...
Well, when he comes knocking on my door (and he will, at
least if the Tesha family is still living in New Hamshire),
he'd better be prepared for quite a lecture on how we're
tired of lily-livered, corporate-minded "Democrats" who,
time and time again, vote for their contributors instead
of their constituents. Who "keep their powder dry" even in
the face of huge threats to our liberties like Alito and
Roberts. Who are too cowardly to speak out in clear, un-
ambiguous terms, even against *THE WORST PRESIDENT THIS
COUNTRY HAS EVER HAD*.

We'll explain it all, and then we'll show him the door.

Tesha
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 11:03 AM
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25. Joementum 2.0
BTW, didn't Skinner work for Biden many moons ago...long before he founded DU?
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 04:53 PM
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41. Joementum 2: Electric Boogaloo (n/t)
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 11:09 AM
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26. If I wanted a spinless appeaser
who kisses Bush's ass for president, I would vote for McCain.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:34 PM
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31. ding, ding, ding
we have a winner. agree completely.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:10 PM
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27. Delusional.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:25 PM
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29. poor guy
:rofl:
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:48 PM
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32. Let's hope that he continues to run...
hom, that is...he has no qualities that would qualify him for the highest office in the country...much like Bush...
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 01:04 PM
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34. Yawn
When faced with the worst administration in living memory, one that is trashing the Constitution and violating the Nuremberg conventions by waging aggressive war, the last thing we need is a bland corporate tool.

We need a street fighter.
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 02:34 PM
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36. My second most despised New England Senator named Joe
This man is nothing but a DLC lapdog, and a credit card shill. His top contributors are banks and bankruptcy law firms representing huge corporate clients.

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.asp?CID=...

Hell, Delaware only exists to dodge rules and taxes Du Pont, MBNA, Citibank and Discover don't wish to abide by.

He helped jam that disgusting bankruptcy bill on the poor for his credit card masters.

Fuck off Joe. Switch parties instead. You are nothing but a charlatan, an attention whore, and a stooge for Corporatocracy.

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 04:00 PM
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37. I can hardly contain my enthusiasm.
:boring:
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EarthNeedsHope Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 04:05 PM
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38. Screw him and all the Dems who won't fight back
The GOP keeps getting hit in the polls but the Dems don't gain. Why? They don't provide a workable alternative. If we had someone like Gore or Feingold running we could win.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 04:27 PM
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39. Run away, I hope...
I will never ever support that credit card suck up as long as he lives.

Remember, he voted for the new bankruptcy bill.

He did more with that one vote to push back any hope for people to recover from huge debt via medical bills.

joe can go screw.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 04:39 PM
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40. Well at least he's guarenteed 3 electorial votes
:shrug:

I'll happily vote for Joe Biden for Senator. Hell I have helped campaign for his son Beau Biden (He's running for State AG). But I'll probably support someone else for presidential election OTHER than Joe Biden. But can you believe it - I've been seeing Biden 2008 bumper stickers all over the place here in Delaware.

We're a small state with Delusions of Grandeur

:shrug:
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:12 AM
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79. Between his plagarism in the '80s and his hair plugs...
I don't think we'll have to worry about Biden being the nominee.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:32 PM
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42. Guess he and Gannon came to an understanding, eh?
Remember when Gannon threw Biden's name out there for kicks? I certainly do.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:40 PM
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44. Biden makes Hillary look charismatic
I'll bet Biden will be the first one to drop out.

First in, first out!

As to Biden's eloquence... :boring:
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:19 PM
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47. Biden is the only person that would make me vote for Hillary
As much as I detest Hillary Clinton, Biden is 1000 times worse.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:26 PM
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48. mitchum says, "ho hum"
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:34 PM
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49. Is he finally running for used car salesman of the year? n/t
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:45 PM
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50. the support is overwhelming
support for him NOT running

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:49 PM
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51. I suggest "away"
How many sides of how many things can one be on before one's nowhere at all?

I wonder what Neil Kinnock would say.

Still, he bares his teeth and stands his ground at important moments.

Sigh.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:52 PM
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52. Why do people say he's a corporate tool?
There are a number of key policies which our corporations badly need:

*Single-payer universal health-care. American corporations have a hard time competing because they are asked to pickup the tab for healthcare expenses for their employees. This is having devastating effects in a number of key sectors, in particular the auto industry.

*An end to the Iraqi occupation. The war-mongering may help a few isolated companies like Halliburton, but for the vast majority of corporations the drainage of hundreds of billions of dollars from our economy only does harm. (Not to mention the artificial boost in energy prices to which it's been contributing.)

*Economic policies that support sustainable growth. There's been an increasing concentration of wealth in the United States, with the small number of haves and have-mores reaping gains while the vast majority are hurting. Since economic activity is ultimately driven by the sales of goods and services to consumers, it will be very hard for corporations to maintain strong earnings growth if most people don't have money to purchase these goods and services. Hence in the long-run corporations will benefit from policies which promote economic sustainability: a more progressive income tax, pro-labor laws, laxer standards for personal bankruptcy, etc.


To my knowledge, Biden's positions on such issues are woefully lacking.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 11:14 PM
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55. you're kidding?....
....Biden is running for President?....well shaazaam, there goes the Sunday morning talk shows....maybe they could give Joe, Potato-heads' or Snuffalopagus' job and make Joes' run easier?....
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 11:28 PM
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56. Biden?
Yeah. Whatever.

That guy is the equivalent of a used car salesman. Lots of promise, short on delivery.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 12:08 AM
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58. feh...he'll NEVER get my vote...
I want an OPPOSITION party, not some spineless idiot repuke-lite wanna-be...
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 12:24 AM
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59. Where's he running to?
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 12:24 AM by antonialee839
It's certainly not toward confrontation.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:08 AM
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61. Never forget that Joe Biden gave us Clarence Thomas on the SC.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:11 AM
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62. Non-Issue
Joe knows it and we do too.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:11 PM
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64. Biden/Liberman 08!
The Bush Democrats dream ticket.
:thumbsdown:
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:51 PM
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66. Wouldn't be my first choice
That bankruptcy bill vote was inexcusable IMO. That said, I would vote for him. Our party is the party with a chance to remove the Repukes from power. The Greens have no momentum, plus it would take a while to get it big. The Repukes need to be out NOW. Plus, SOME Greens have sold themselves to the dark side.

My preferred candidates are Kucinich, Boxer, Gore, or Feingold. Edwards also has a good populist heart - he's just slightly below the rest.
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:06 PM
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68. Only 40 supporters? Doesnt sound good.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:46 PM
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72. Can you hear the yawn?
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:48 PM
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73. I think it is too early
for candidates to announce if they are going to run or not.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:04 PM
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74. Bwwwwahahhahahahah!
Rotsa ruck daffy.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:39 PM
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75. geeezzuuuuussss...! even Obama makes Biden looked parked!!
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:05 AM
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78. Is this Joe "MBNA" Biden we're talking about here?
No thanks.
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