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'Bush is the devil' (Chavez)
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 11:40 AM by Tripmann
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1234553,00...

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has said that President Bush is "the Devil" during his address to the United Nations in New York.

Viva Chavez!
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   Well then since I don't believe in the devil  OhioBlues   Sep-20-06 11:41 AM   #1 
   I don't believe in all that  zidzi   Sep-20-06 01:20 PM   #62 
      I agree, I was being silly and wishful  OhioBlues   Sep-21-06 07:51 AM   #184 
         I believe.  screembloodymurder   Sep-22-06 06:38 AM   #209 
   Was that Great or What?  herbbrown   Sep-20-06 11:41 AM   #2 
   Was he telling a joke or was he serious?  gorbal   Sep-20-06 12:22 PM   #39 
      Yeah...  Ka hrnt   Sep-20-06 10:09 PM   #166 
      "the devil was here yesterday... it still smells of sulfer today"  rman   Sep-21-06 11:00 AM   #186 
         Propagandists don't care what they have to do to get fuel for their  Judi Lynn   Sep-21-06 03:01 PM   #194 
   BUSH IS NOT THE DEVIL !!!!!  tocqueville   Sep-20-06 11:44 AM   #3 
   Yah he works for CHENEY.  goforit   Sep-20-06 12:09 PM   #25 
   Satan was his running mate. I have proof...  chat_noir   Sep-20-06 04:52 PM   #117 
      That's wimp george the Bully nt  goclark   Sep-20-06 08:22 PM   #153 
   WOW.... Chavez kicked Bush ass !  RethugAssKicker   Sep-20-06 11:44 AM   #4 
   The imperialism of the US is going to destroy the world, if not stopped.  Freedom_from_Chains   Sep-20-06 12:14 PM   #33 
   I think I'm gonna have to read Chomsky's book  arewenotdemo   Sep-20-06 08:00 PM   #148 
      Chomsky  Jim Stark   Sep-21-06 02:00 PM   #192 
         Hey, thanks. You've saved us all a lot of trouble reading even more  Judi Lynn   Sep-21-06 03:02 PM   #195 
   You're wrong Hugo  Greeby   Sep-20-06 11:45 AM   #5 
   Well, some say the anti-christ is just a personable international figure.  gorbal   Sep-20-06 12:38 PM   #51 
   bush could be, he's very devious  alyce douglas   Sep-20-06 03:45 PM   #106 
   I know it'll never happen but..  Tripmann   Sep-20-06 11:46 AM   #6 
   Why would it not happen?  kgfnally   Sep-20-06 03:22 PM   #90 
   More like an imperial statist  NoMoreMyths   Sep-20-06 11:47 AM   #7 
   It's a metaphor  Zensea   Sep-20-06 11:49 AM   #8 
      I'm sure it is  NoMoreMyths   Sep-20-06 12:02 PM   #19 
   Chavez is nuts.  Bleachers7   Sep-20-06 11:49 AM   #9 
   Agreed  Show_Me _The_Truth   Sep-20-06 11:55 AM   #12 
   I couldn't agree more!  LeighAnn   Sep-20-06 12:13 PM   #30 
   hate to burst your bubble  dwickham   Sep-20-06 01:28 PM   #64 
   Guilty!  LeighAnn   Sep-20-06 01:52 PM   #68 
      You do not dwell in the reality-based community. eom  geek tragedy   Sep-20-06 02:53 PM   #83 
      Reality-based community thinks 9-11 was caused by  LeighAnn   Sep-20-06 04:17 PM   #110 
      No, you're right. It was a controlled demo and a cruise missile. eom  geek tragedy   Sep-20-06 06:47 PM   #140 
         Well, it was because Bush was dealing with the Taliban  LeighAnn   Sep-21-06 05:35 PM   #201 
      Oh. My. GOD.  TheWatcher   Sep-20-06 04:45 PM   #116 
         Blaming Bush for Pol Pot's atrocities is the height of ignorance.  geek tragedy   Sep-20-06 06:48 PM   #141 
            it's not ignorance, it's just an emotional reaction  anotherdrew   Sep-20-06 08:28 PM   #155 
               Yes, I do doubt that he would have done worse than Pol Pot.  geek tragedy   Sep-20-06 09:41 PM   #162 
                  whoops  anotherdrew   Sep-21-06 12:32 AM   #171 
                     Possibly. But, the leadership was Richard Milhous Nixon.  geek tragedy   Sep-21-06 12:39 AM   #174 
      so the CIA was behind the murders in Cambodia  dwickham   Sep-20-06 03:26 PM   #94 
      many , see link  upi402   Sep-20-06 03:31 PM   #97 
         and here  upi402   Sep-20-06 03:32 PM   #98 
         by Pol Pot's regime?  dwickham   Sep-20-06 03:34 PM   #99 
            re; cia reference  upi402   Sep-20-06 03:38 PM   #101 
      LeighAnn, I not one to hold back, but...  jacklambert   Sep-20-06 03:29 PM   #96 
         "better stirred than smoked" -please clarify  upi402   Sep-20-06 03:34 PM   #100 
         just that  jacklambert   Sep-20-06 03:39 PM   #102 
            thanks, smoked has 2 connotations  upi402   Sep-20-06 03:41 PM   #104 
               Confucious say....  LeighAnn   Sep-20-06 04:21 PM   #113 
         Interesting choice of words that  arikara   Sep-21-06 01:43 PM   #189 
   No.  Spinoza   Sep-20-06 06:54 PM   #144 
   Name-calling blows your credibility...  jacklambert   Sep-20-06 01:01 PM   #58 
      Depends on if our Democratic President tries to overthrow him  LeighAnn   Sep-20-06 01:46 PM   #67 
      LOL  alcibiades_mystery   Sep-20-06 02:43 PM   #80 
   It takes a nutjob to know a nutjob.  Chimpys_Last_Stand   Sep-20-06 11:56 AM   #14 
   Very poor form at the UN involves telling lies to lay the foundation  Judi Lynn   Sep-20-06 11:56 AM   #15 
   You got that right  KingFlorez   Sep-20-06 12:03 PM   #20 
   exactly!... They prefer polished talk over substance!  RethugAssKicker   Sep-20-06 12:12 PM   #28 
   At least we agree.  Bleachers7   Sep-20-06 12:29 PM   #45 
   Right, and Chavez told the truth.  zidzi   Sep-20-06 01:27 PM   #63 
      He *was* applauded.  kgfnally   Sep-21-06 12:36 AM   #173 
         Chavez received "vigorous applause," according to The Guardian  IndianaGreen   Sep-21-06 12:46 AM   #177 
         I know you're not talking to me.  zidzi   Sep-21-06 08:44 AM   #185 
   Suppose you would prefer BS politico talk... double talk  RethugAssKicker   Sep-20-06 12:10 PM   #26 
   Sorry, what's substantive about calling Bush the devil?  Bleachers7   Sep-20-06 12:30 PM   #46 
   Poor form? POOR FORM??!! I'd say slaughtering 100,000 people in Iraq is  Peace Patriot   Sep-20-06 12:11 PM   #27 
   AMEN BROTHER !!  RethugAssKicker   Sep-20-06 12:16 PM   #34 
   Thank you!  partylessinOhio   Sep-20-06 12:38 PM   #52 
   May I second your post?  Hell Hath No Fury   Sep-20-06 02:26 PM   #77 
   Peace Patriot...  mithnanthy   Sep-20-06 08:46 PM   #157 
   Excellent response!  Nihil   Sep-21-06 05:04 AM   #183 
   what PP said!  ldf   Sep-21-06 07:01 PM   #205 
   It is not nuts to say the truth. More politicians should try it.  cassiepriam   Sep-20-06 12:13 PM   #31 
   Prove Bush is the Devil Incarnate.  Bleachers7   Sep-20-06 12:33 PM   #47 
      Prove he isn't. Truth belongs anywhere, anytime.  cassiepriam   Sep-20-06 02:20 PM   #73 
      You think Chavez cares about Iraq?  Bleachers7   Sep-20-06 03:15 PM   #87 
         Huh? I think we agree. eom  geek tragedy   Sep-20-06 03:25 PM   #92 
      Because diplomats don't understand hyperbole. n/t  kgfnally   Sep-20-06 03:25 PM   #93 
      Stop being an adult!  scot   Sep-21-06 12:50 AM   #178 
      How about Bush sending his minion to the UN armed with a pack of lies  arikara   Sep-21-06 01:51 PM   #190 
   Then it is high time we started to develop poor form since  Freedom_from_Chains   Sep-20-06 12:17 PM   #35 
   The UN is a place of diplomacy.  Bleachers7   Sep-20-06 12:36 PM   #48 
      Oh really?  howmad1   Sep-20-06 02:39 PM   #79 
      I would tell that to Colin Powell  Bleachers7   Sep-20-06 03:16 PM   #88 
      He was being diplomatic with others  alcibiades_mystery   Sep-20-06 02:44 PM   #81 
   He is wrong to say this at the UN--instead he could have spoken about  rodeodance   Sep-20-06 01:17 PM   #61 
   But they're the policies of *. It's directly his fault!  kgfnally   Sep-20-06 03:47 PM   #107 
   Poor form?  screembloodymurder   Sep-20-06 02:01 PM   #70 
   Because speaking truth to power is *never* the right thing to do. n/t  kgfnally   Sep-20-06 03:23 PM   #91 
   Poor Form?  NeoConsSuck   Sep-20-06 09:02 PM   #158 
   Is that opinion or fact?  rman   Sep-21-06 11:01 AM   #187 
   ABSOLUTELY WRONG  Jim Stark   Sep-21-06 01:57 PM   #191 
   Still smells of Sulfur!  LeighAnn   Sep-20-06 11:53 AM   #10 
   Sulfur? Bush was having bathroom problems again?  aquart   Sep-20-06 12:08 PM   #24 
   accused Washington of "domination, exploitation  cal04   Sep-20-06 11:54 AM   #11 
   I watched it on Cspan, and understood the context better  gorbal   Sep-20-06 05:53 PM   #120 
   Good for him  KingFlorez   Sep-20-06 11:55 AM   #13 
   Call it like it is Hugo  liberal N proud   Sep-20-06 11:56 AM   #16 
   and THAT is the ONLY thing we'll EVER hear about that speech  HuffleClaw   Sep-20-06 11:58 AM   #17 
   And Chavez surely realises that  muriel_volestrangler   Sep-20-06 12:12 PM   #29 
   The MSM harping is no big deal...  Roy   Sep-20-06 06:36 PM   #137 
   That was not a misquote from Iran's president  nick303   Sep-20-06 09:42 PM   #163 
   Hugo Is Starting to Bore Me  Crisco   Sep-20-06 12:01 PM   #18 
   Hes not there to entertain you...  RethugAssKicker   Sep-20-06 12:05 PM   #21 
      Very Good response!!! nt  VegasWolf   Sep-20-06 12:14 PM   #32 
      That's Debatable  Crisco   Sep-20-06 12:17 PM   #36 
      To think he's "isolated" is a credit to US media.  Minstrel Boy   Sep-20-06 04:16 PM   #109 
      sort of like the overthrow that failed?  Tuttle   Sep-20-06 06:09 PM   #128 
      Chavez  Taoschick   Sep-20-06 12:27 PM   #44 
   Devil, devil's minion. There is some debate on that.  aquart   Sep-20-06 12:07 PM   #22 
   Takes one to know one.  shayes51   Sep-20-06 12:07 PM   #23 
   Nah! A devil is easy to spot, anyone who illegally occupies another  VegasWolf   Sep-20-06 12:18 PM   #37 
   What evil has Chavez done to warrant that comment !  RethugAssKicker   Sep-20-06 12:21 PM   #38 
   Chavez is a "good guy" because he's an extremely able  Vidar   Sep-21-06 01:53 AM   #180 
   CNN airheads were in shock  independentpiney   Sep-20-06 12:22 PM   #40 
   CNN just embarasses me anymore.  bigworld   Sep-20-06 12:23 PM   #42 
   Wow... How fucking stupid... They just don't get it .. do they ?  RethugAssKicker   Sep-20-06 12:27 PM   #43 
   "The war on terror" that the chimp  zidzi   Sep-20-06 01:30 PM   #65 
   Lol... wish I'd seen that!  Henny Penny   Sep-21-06 06:47 PM   #204 
   hey - this certainly isn't breaking news!  bigworld   Sep-20-06 12:22 PM   #41 
   THIS JUST IN!  ForFuxakes   Sep-20-06 12:38 PM   #49 
   LOL!  savemefromdumbya   Sep-20-06 02:21 PM   #74 
   Oops...double post  ForFuxakes   Sep-20-06 12:38 PM   #50 
   Every DUer should memorize this speech  AngryAmish   Sep-20-06 12:42 PM   #53 
   Why is it that Bitch can call other countries leaders evil doers...  bamacrat   Sep-20-06 12:44 PM   #54 
   "Axis of Evil"...."Evil Empire"....  dolo amber   Sep-20-06 07:38 PM   #147 
   Live Chavez press conference coming up NOW on UN webcast  Minstrel Boy   Sep-20-06 12:44 PM   #55 
   Chavez is hardly an innocent. nt  onehandle   Sep-20-06 12:49 PM   #56 
   please, continue.  Minstrel Boy   Sep-20-06 12:50 PM   #57 
   Go on ... tell us all about the evil things Chavez has done !  RethugAssKicker   Sep-20-06 02:44 PM   #82 
   You'd be doing everyone a favor by posting all those links I'm sure you  Judi Lynn   Sep-20-06 04:43 PM   #115 
   El Diablo  El Zopilote   Sep-20-06 01:06 PM   #59 
   The courage of these nutjob leaders astounds me  Radioactive   Sep-20-06 01:09 PM   #60 
   We should always ask  Mudoria   Sep-20-06 01:41 PM   #66 
   That's just plain silly: Bush isn't smart enough to be the Devil.  Ex Lion Tamer   Sep-20-06 01:55 PM   #69 
   Would you settle for donkey?  BrotherBuzz   Sep-20-06 02:22 PM   #75 
   You're right  killbotfactory   Sep-20-06 03:29 PM   #95 
   The CHIMPANZEE isn't Satan--He's is however a Fucking DRAFT DODGER  saigon68   Sep-20-06 05:58 PM   #123 
   Did he actually mention Bush by name or was it just assumed ...  Sentinel Chicken   Sep-20-06 02:06 PM   #71 
   Tell it like it is, Hugo!  Vidar   Sep-20-06 02:18 PM   #72 
   EL DIABLO!  savemefromdumbya   Sep-20-06 02:25 PM   #76 
   Historians on DU- isn't this unprecedented? A personal insult like  Olney Blue   Sep-20-06 02:29 PM   #78 
   I know Bush called Kim Jong Il a "pygmy"  Minstrel Boy   Sep-20-06 02:53 PM   #84 
      Kim Jong Il is a pygmy (with horns and a tail)  jacklambert   Sep-20-06 04:10 PM   #108 
   FULL TEXT OF SPEECH:  PeaceProgProsp   Sep-20-06 02:54 PM   #85 
   Hegemony or Survival: The Imperialist Strategy of the United States.'  killbotfactory   Sep-20-06 03:43 PM   #105 
   A courageous speech.  ozone_man   Sep-20-06 04:19 PM   #112 
   I guess it's old school to start a speech with a joke.  PeaceProgProsp   Sep-20-06 04:42 PM   #114 
      Good point, I guess being there  ozone_man   Sep-20-06 09:25 PM   #159 
   Thank You So Much for Posting This  Crisco   Sep-20-06 06:10 PM   #129 
   Thank you for amending the record.  PeaceProgProsp   Sep-20-06 06:59 PM   #145 
   I e-mailed copies of Chavez's speech to everyone I know!  IndianaGreen   Sep-20-06 08:08 PM   #149 
   Link to the speech  IndianaGreen   Sep-20-06 10:42 PM   #168 
   Hugo the Hypocrite embraces Mugabe and Ahmadinejad.  geek tragedy   Sep-20-06 02:55 PM   #86 
   I'm not sure that you can support that argument if you read  PeaceProgProsp   Sep-20-06 03:20 PM   #89 
   bravo to telling the rest of world what we are dealing with  alyce douglas   Sep-20-06 03:41 PM   #103 
   No such thing  Strawman   Sep-20-06 04:18 PM   #111 
   Rant  Sewsojm   Sep-20-06 05:13 PM   #118 
   I guess...  NeedleCast   Sep-20-06 05:45 PM   #119 
   Venezuelans have every reason in the world to hate Bush like poison.  Judi Lynn   Sep-20-06 05:55 PM   #121 
   And Chavez and other Venezuelans know Boosh and the fundies  lpbk2713   Sep-20-06 06:03 PM   #125 
   So if they hate us, and we hate them  NeedleCast   Sep-20-06 06:06 PM   #126 
   Diplomacy's point is to avoid war  hawkowl88   Sep-21-06 03:39 AM   #182 
   absolutely and totally agree  NotGivingUp   Sep-20-06 06:47 PM   #139 
   Chavez hasn't done what Bush has done  KingFlorez   Sep-20-06 06:07 PM   #127 
   I agree  NeedleCast   Sep-20-06 06:10 PM   #130 
      You said there was no difference between the two  KingFlorez   Sep-20-06 06:14 PM   #132 
         I agreed that Chavez...  NeedleCast   Sep-20-06 06:25 PM   #135 
   Ok, you make some good  durtee librul   Sep-20-06 08:18 PM   #150 
      Thanks for your observations made during your Ontario trip, durtee librul.  Judi Lynn   Sep-20-06 08:37 PM   #156 
   LOL!  Megahurtz   Sep-20-06 05:57 PM   #122 
   Safe bet; No state visits on the horizon for Hugo nt  kitty1   Sep-20-06 05:59 PM   #124 
   Excuse Me, But This Isn't Latest Breaking News...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Sep-20-06 06:12 PM   #131 
   which is nuttier: starting a disastrous war, or calling the guy who did...  NorthernSpy   Sep-20-06 06:15 PM   #133 
   I...LOVE....CHAVEZ ...  diamidue   Sep-20-06 06:24 PM   #134 
   Hey Chavez, FUCK YOU AND YOUR OIL! eom  MGD   Sep-20-06 06:26 PM   #136 
   Hey, Bush, FUCK YOU and your oilmen friends!  IndianaGreen   Sep-20-06 06:49 PM   #142 
   I've no argument with that Indiana. nt  MGD   Sep-21-06 05:34 PM   #200 
   you must be a big devil (BUSH) fan.  olddad56   Sep-20-06 07:32 PM   #146 
   I guess Charlie Rangel is a big devil (Bush) fan too.  MGD   Sep-21-06 05:17 PM   #196 
   Who among us is simply too underfunded to recognize an old man  Judi Lynn   Sep-21-06 05:22 PM   #197 
      I love the neurotic mental constructions created by internet  MGD   Sep-21-06 05:33 PM   #199 
         Are you saying the same people who said "We'll fuck him like he's never  Judi Lynn   Sep-21-06 05:49 PM   #203 
            I'm pretty sure I never said any such thing Judi.  MGD   Sep-21-06 08:08 PM   #206 
   I Guess Nanci Pelosi, the Democratic leader of the House is a big fan too.  MGD   Sep-21-06 05:46 PM   #202 
   I'm guessing Chavez is not worried by what American rednecks think. nt  VegasWolf   Sep-20-06 09:31 PM   #160 
   Bush is the Devil, the Anti-Christ, a despot, a tyrant, a war criminal  IndianaGreen   Sep-20-06 06:41 PM   #138 
   yep, yep, yep, yep and yep. Viva Chavez! Viva Venezuela!  NotGivingUp   Sep-20-06 06:50 PM   #143 
   The Guardian: Chávez attacks 'devil' Bush in UN speech  IndianaGreen   Sep-20-06 08:19 PM   #151 
   YOu can read some excerpts from "Hegemony" here-  gorbal   Sep-20-06 08:20 PM   #152 
   Chavez already proved himself to people of good will long ago.  Judi Lynn   Sep-20-06 08:25 PM   #154 
   I loved the part about the sulfur smell -hilarious  hollowdweller   Sep-20-06 09:33 PM   #161 
   Yes, therefore we are supposed to hate him  upi402   Sep-20-06 09:52 PM   #164 
   That old Bush "evil" rhetoric was old the first time he used it!  Judi Lynn   Sep-20-06 09:53 PM   #165 
   I confess that I laughed out loud -- Bush's liking for fart jokes  Lisa   Sep-21-06 02:22 PM   #193 
   I don't know if Bush is the Devil, but I absolutely  antonialee839   Sep-20-06 10:35 PM   #167 
   Chavez is a brilliant performer.  Matilda   Sep-20-06 11:44 PM   #169 
   I noticed on Anderson Coopers 11 p.m. segment  go west young man   Sep-21-06 12:26 AM   #170 
   CNN ditched the UN translator for their own  IndianaGreen   Sep-21-06 12:35 AM   #172 
   I'm surprised Anderson Cooper does this too as I've seen him  go west young man   Sep-21-06 01:23 AM   #179 
   That reminds me of when they bombed and killed Chilean ambassador  Judi Lynn   Sep-21-06 01:58 AM   #181 
   NPR does that too with Venezuelan government officials.  1932   Sep-21-06 12:39 AM   #175 
   He's got a great message, which makes the performance easier.  1932   Sep-21-06 12:43 AM   #176 
   Chavez also said Bush needed a psychiatric examination  lebkuchen   Sep-21-06 12:06 PM   #188 
   zOMG THE METAPHORS!!!  TheModernTerrorist   Sep-21-06 05:22 PM   #198 
   Why doesn't the Repub Media mention what the Pope Called Bush?  farmboxer   Sep-22-06 05:36 AM   #207 
      The CHIMP is an Evil War criminal who kills  saigon68   Sep-22-06 06:25 AM   #208 
 
LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:41 AM
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1. Well then since I don't believe in the devil
that must mean there is no such thing as bush. Wow, this has been one long delusion or nightmare then huh.
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62. I don't believe in all that
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 01:22 PM by zidzi
stuff, either, but I know what Chavez means.

From Merriam Webster..

devil

"1 often capitalized : the personal supreme spirit of evil often represented in Jewish and Christian belief as the tempter of humankind, the leader of all apostate angels, and the ruler of hell -- usually used with the; often used as an interjection, an intensive, or a generalized term of abuse <what the devil is this?> <the devil you say!>
2 : an evil spirit : DEMON
3 a : an extremely wicked person : FIEND : a great evil



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184. I agree, I was being silly and wishful
You know pretending there was no such thing as bush. Ahh if only we could have elected someone with of all things integrity and a good heart. :)
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-22-06 06:38 AM
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209. I believe.
I am certain Bush is the anti-Christ or an ACC: anti-Christ cheerleader.
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herbbrown (318 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:41 AM
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2. Was that Great or What?
Better yet it went over well to his audience, they aplauded, they laughed, Hugo was a big hit. Hope he doesn't recieve a big hit.
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:22 PM
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39. Was he telling a joke or was he serious?
I hope he hasn't gone THAT far off the deep end.
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Ka hrnt (214 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 10:09 PM
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166. Yeah...
...what's going to happen if/when the dems take back over? Who will be Chavez's boogeyman then?
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rman (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 11:00 AM
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186.  "the devil was here yesterday... it still smells of sulfer today"
(applause and giggles from the audience)

That should be enough to figure out if it was told in jest (although the point he made was serious), or whether he really thinks Bush is the devil.

Makes me wonder if Reagan was serious or not when he said the communists are devils.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #186
194. Propagandists don't care what they have to do to get fuel for their
campaigns. The very idea of considering context is abhorrent to them!

To the rest of us, context is everything. Thanks for pointing it out.
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:44 AM
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3. BUSH IS NOT THE DEVIL !!!!!
he just works for him
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goforit (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:09 PM
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25. Yah he works for CHENEY.
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chat_noir (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 04:52 PM
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117. Satan was his running mate. I have proof...





……….


WWW.AWOLBUSH.COM






DESERTER: THE STORY OF GEORGE W. BUSH AFTER HE QUIT THE TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD http://www.glcq.com/bush_at_arpc1.htm















$10,000 reward was never collected




Cheerleader action doll hahahaha


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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #117
153. That's wimp george the Bully nt
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:44 AM
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4. WOW.... Chavez kicked Bush ass !
Chavez gave a fantastic straight to the point speech, that told it just like it is... The imperialism of the US is going to destroy the world, if not stopped.

No political side-stepping, no forked-tongue talking; Chavez spoke in the common mans language !

He brought up Noam Chomskys book and recommended everyone at the UN to read it.

Unbelievable speech !


VIVA CHAVEZ !!!!!!
VIVA CHAVEZ !!!!
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:14 PM
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33. The imperialism of the US is going to destroy the world, if not stopped.
And that is what I am afraid that a bunch of countries are going to come to the conclusion of, and we are in deep shit when they do. We may have a lot of nuclear warheads, but we are not invincible like a lot of people seem to think we are.
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 08:00 PM
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148. I think I'm gonna have to read Chomsky's book
VIVA CHAVEZ!
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Jim Stark (84 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 02:00 PM
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192. Chomsky
is insane
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #192
195. Hey, thanks. You've saved us all a lot of trouble reading even more
of his writing.

Maybe you could suggest a better source.
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Greeby (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:45 AM
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5. You're wrong Hugo
He can't be the anti-christ, that'd be too obvious and he's too stupid :evilgrin:
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:38 PM
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51. Well, some say the anti-christ is just a personable international figure.
I think it was Nostrodamus. Acording to him, some red-head from the lower classes and a scientist will save us from him...so watch out for red-heads and scientests.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 03:45 PM
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106. bush could be, he's very devious
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Tripmann (343 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:46 AM
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6. I know it'll never happen but..
..can you imagine Stewart and Colbert having this guy as a guest LOL!!
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:22 PM
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90. Why would it not happen?
Seems to me, if Chavez really wanted to make a statement, he could accept an invite from TDS or Colbert, and decline a similar offer from *.

Heh. I wonder what the response from the WH to that would be.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:47 AM
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7. More like an imperial statist
Not sure why we have to bring the supernatural into this.
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Zensea (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:49 AM
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8. It's a metaphor
most likely
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:02 PM
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19. I'm sure it is
But it doesn't help. Granted, calling him an imperial statist won't stop anything. Either way we're getting nowhere quick.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 11:49 AM
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9. Chavez is nuts.
Whether he believes that or not, it's poor form to say something like that at the UN.
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Show_Me _The_Truth (687 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:55 AM
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12. Agreed
We would be criticizing Bush if he used language like that. And even did criticize him when he used terms like Axis of Evil.

But its Hugo, he gets a pass.

Solves nothing and sounds like old Communist Rhetoric with the "Yankee Go Home" line.

Calls Bush the Devil, but cozies up to people like Ahmadenijad.
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LeighAnn (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:13 PM
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30. I couldn't agree more!
With Chavez, that is. Bush is responsible for more wholesale mass murder than anyone since Hitler. The Devil indeed!
Good to finally hear somebody telling it like it is!

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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 01:28 PM
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64. hate to burst your bubble
Pol Pot; the Soviet leaders; etc

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LeighAnn (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 01:52 PM
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68. Guilty!
He's guilty of those murders too... by assoCIAtion.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 02:53 PM
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83. You do not dwell in the reality-based community. eom
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LeighAnn (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 04:17 PM
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110. Reality-based community thinks 9-11 was caused by
Reality-based community thinks 9-11 was caused by Islamist Fascists who Hate Our Freedoms. In this sense, I do not dwell there.

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 06:47 PM
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140. No, you're right. It was a controlled demo and a cruise missile. eom
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LeighAnn (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 05:35 PM
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201. Well, it was because Bush was dealing with the Taliban
In the days leading up to September 11. Trying to put a pipeline through Afghanistan, you see. The Taliban wanted too much money. Read about John O'Neill, the FBI chief who spent years trying to get bin Laden and disrupt al CIAda only to be thwarted because Bushco was trying to make a sweet deal with the Taliban.


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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #83
116. Oh. My. GOD.
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 04:46 PM by TheWatcher
If there was EVER a Pot-Kettle Post on DU, THIS was it.

:rofl:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #116
141. Blaming Bush for Pol Pot's atrocities is the height of ignorance.
Hell, was he even old enough to drink back then?
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #141
155. it's not ignorance, it's just an emotional reaction
anyway, do you doubt that had bush been around at the time he would have done any different? of course he might have been worse, but 'in spirit' he's no different than any of our past foolish murderous leaders who would gladly do it all over again.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 09:41 PM
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162. Yes, I do doubt that he would have done worse than Pol Pot.
He's still a criminal, but he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame with guys like Pol Pot and Hitler.
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 12:32 AM
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171. whoops
I didn't mean worse than Pol Pot, I meant 'make worse choices than the US leadership at the time did"
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 12:39 AM
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174. Possibly. But, the leadership was Richard Milhous Nixon.
Nixon vs. Bush is kinda like Ruth vs. Aaron, except in a cynical, sucky way.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:26 PM
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94. so the CIA was behind the murders in Cambodia
interesting

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upi402 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:31 PM
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97. many , see link
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upi402 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:32 PM
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98. and here
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:34 PM
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99. by Pol Pot's regime?
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upi402 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:38 PM
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101. re; cia reference
for clarification, sorry
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jacklambert (50 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:29 PM
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96. LeighAnn, I not one to hold back, but...
you are at a level of hatred that defies logic. You really have to base your criticism in reality or you are going to lose credibility from even the sharpest Bush critics.

Or then again, maybe you're here just to stir the pot...but whatever, better stirred than smoked.
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upi402 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:34 PM
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100. "better stirred than smoked" -please clarify
Thanks... :shrug:
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jacklambert (50 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:39 PM
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102. just that
it's better to be discussing beyond the realms of rational thought purposely because you're trying to stir the pot and not un-purposely because your high on pot.
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upi402 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:41 PM
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104. thanks, smoked has 2 connotations
:toast:
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LeighAnn (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 04:21 PM
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113. Confucious say....
"Man who stand on toilet high on pot"

:smoke:
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 01:43 PM
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189. Interesting choice of words that
"level of hatred". Did she say she hated anyone? What I get from her is that she's not into buying the official hook, line and sinker. When we are lied to over and over and over, what should "reality" be based upon?

Its always interesting to see who these Chavez threads brings out of the woodwork.





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Spinoza (766 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 06:54 PM
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144. No.
The greatest mass murderer in history is Mao Tse Tung. Read "Mao, The Unknown Story" by Jung Chang and Jon Halliday. Mao's killings made Hitler, Pol Pot and even Stalin look like pikers. Bush doesn't even come close.
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jacklambert (50 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 01:01 PM
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58. Name-calling blows your credibility...
Chavez did nothing but divided people. I wonder what his views on Clinton, Gore or Kerry would be??

The US has always been involved in global activity. Will Chavez feel the same when a Democratic President is elected. Will he remain a thorn in the side of our leader no matter what affiliation??
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LeighAnn (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 01:46 PM
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67. Depends on if our Democratic President tries to overthrow him
Generally, when one president tries to overthrow another president, that president wants to become a thorn in the side of the president that tried to overthrow him.

You can't call what Bush has done to the world "Global Activity". Mass murder, that's all.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 02:43 PM
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80. LOL
I'm pretty sure Chavez doesn't give a good goddamn what power brokers in the US think, Democratic or Republican. Here's what's going to have to get through the head of every American at some point this century: people like Chavez are not speaking TO YOU. You can address the world whilke not addressing the United States. In fact, for many, that is an imperative, in the same way inmates planning a revolt would not be speaking to the guards.
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ClusterFreak (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:56 AM
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14. It takes a nutjob to know a nutjob.
Which is why Chavez comments about Bush were so bang on. Calling him the Devil and that it still smelled of sulphur up there, and that a psychiatrist should be called in to understand Bush's comments or whatever...I mean, that shit is just pure gold. Hugo brought his "A" material, and should be headlining on the comedy club circuit. Even if a puffed-up, blustering demagogue like Chavez was delivering these comments, it was friggin' great to hear them. Bush is a puffed-up, blustering demagogue himself, so....
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:56 AM
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15. Very poor form at the UN involves telling lies to lay the foundation
for campaigns of mass murder and acquisition.
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:03 PM
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20. You got that right
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:12 PM
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28. exactly!... They prefer polished talk over substance!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 12:29 PM
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45. At least we agree.
:thumbsup:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 01:27 PM
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63. Right, and Chavez told the truth.
I'm say "poor form" is having bolton as the ambassador(yeah right) and chimp's lies.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #63
173. He *was* applauded.
But I bet you think THAT was poor form as well.

I keep seeing that phrase, "poor form", used over and over again tonight, by the same, small group of DUers.

One could imagine they were being paid to say as much.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 12:46 AM
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177. Chavez received "vigorous applause," according to The Guardian
I agree with you that "poor form" is part of a GOP talking point.

Delegates and leaders from around the world streamed back into the chamber to hear Mr Chávez, and when he stepped down the vigorous applause lasted so long that it had to be curtailed by the chair.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1877243,00.html

Bush got tepid applause when he embarrassed himself at the UN.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Sep-21-06 08:44 AM
Response to Reply #173
185. I know you're not talking to me.
My "poor form" is in quotes and I'm talking about bolton and bush.

It just looks like you're addressing my post.
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:10 PM
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26. Suppose you would prefer BS politico talk... double talk
the ususal confusing, double meanings....

Or as the American Indians used to say

White man speak with forked tongue !

Chavez told it like it is !

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #26
46. Sorry, what's substantive about calling Bush the devil?
:shrug:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:11 PM
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27. Poor form? POOR FORM??!! I'd say slaughtering 100,000 people in Iraq is
"poor form." I'd say advocating and employing torture is "poor form." I'd say looting the federal government is "poor form." I'd say shredding the Constitution is "poor form." I'd say spitting on international law is "poor form." I'd say letting the poor rot and die in the Katrina disaster is "poor form." I'd say applauding (and probably abetting) an attempted violent military coup in Venezuela is "poor form." I'd say pouring US taxpayer dollars illegally into Venezuelan elections, in support of the rich oil elite, is "poor form." I'd say freeing US-based global corporate predators of regulation and rightful taxation, and spreading sweatshop labor and impoverishment around the world, is "poor form." I'd say Bechtel Corp. privatizing the water in Bolivia, and then jacking up the prices to the poorest of the poor--even charging poor peasants for collecting rainwater!--is "poor form." I'd say giving billions of dollars to your vice president's company in no-bid contracts is "poor form." I'd say permitting gas gouging by your multi-billionaire buds in the oil industry is "poor form." I'd say stealing US elections is "poor form."

And I'd say that Hugo Chavez is a brilliant, and brave, and very funny man! Calling Bush "the devil" hit the metaphorical nail right on its head. Billions and billions of people are smiling about it today. The whole world is smiling. Yup. The devil and his evil ways. And imagine someone brave enough to SAY it! Very inspiring to all.
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:16 PM
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34. AMEN BROTHER !!
Poor form... What BS to even think of, when compared to the EVIL WAYS of American Imperialism
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partylessinOhio (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:38 PM
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52. Thank you!

Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!


:yourock: :applause: :yourock: :applause: :yourock: :applause:

:yourock: :applause: :yourock: :applause: :yourock: :applause:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 02:26 PM
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77. May I second your post?
:hi:
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mithnanthy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 08:46 PM
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157. Peace Patriot...
You are absolutely right! Chavez told it like it is! Finally somebody has the balls to rattle Chimpy's cage.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 05:04 AM
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183. Excellent response!
:toast:

As you say, it's good to find that there are still people brave enough
to say it, knowing that the mighty US publicity machine will turn on him
(not to mention some of the more shadowy aspects of the US machine).

Hope he has an anthrax detector for his mail.
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ldf (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 07:01 PM
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205. what PP said!
:thumbsup:

:hi:
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:13 PM
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31. It is not nuts to say the truth. More politicians should try it.
Bush is the devil incarnate.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #31
47. Prove Bush is the Devil Incarnate.
Until you can, it's hyperbolic bullshit that doesn't belong in a diplomatic chamber.
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 02:20 PM
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73. Prove he isn't. Truth belongs anywhere, anytime.
Especially when it saves lifes.

Iraqi men, women and babies are being killed, raped and tortured
every day. Any one who works to stop this is on the side of the angels.

I pray Bleachers that you will use your intelligence and courage to fight the
good fight. Not start dissension on DU.

I hope you can feel my prayers now.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 03:15 PM
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87. You think Chavez cares about Iraq?
What is he doing to stop anything? All he does is self promotion and he does this constantly. But of course, that's not the point. Two wrongs don't make a right and juvenile name calling is not appropriate at the UN.

I pray cassiepriam that you will use your intelligence and courage to fight the
good fight. Not start dissension on DU.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:25 PM
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92. Huh? I think we agree. eom
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:25 PM
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93. Because diplomats don't understand hyperbole. n/t
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scot (140 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 12:50 AM
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178. Stop being an adult!
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 01:51 PM
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190. How about Bush sending his minion to the UN armed with a pack of lies
Was that good form?



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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:17 PM
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35. Then it is high time we started to develop poor form since
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:17 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
most of our leaders in the Democratic party won't do it. You may have not noticed but Bush has done a great job of taking over this country using religious metaphors. Apparently sheep respond well to them.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 12:36 PM
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48. The UN is a place of diplomacy.
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:36 PM by Bleachers7
It's supposed to be a place of peace. How does calling someone the devil fit in with that? It doesn't matter if you believe Bush is the devil, devil incarnate, a dirt devil, or Satan himself. It's just not appropriate for a place like the UN.
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howmad1 (630 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 02:39 PM
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79. Oh really?
Tell that to Colin Powell who spewed the worst lies ever in this "place of democracy". Cheers for Hugo Chavez. Oh, BTW, tell me all the great success the UN has had in the past few years to advance the cause for world peace.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 03:16 PM
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88. I would tell that to Colin Powell
Though I think he already knows. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 02:44 PM
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81. He was being diplomatic with others
He started with the common values and commonly held assumption of most of the planet. :rofl:
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 01:17 PM
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61. He is wrong to say this at the UN--instead he could have spoken about
the effect of US policies on the world. not personalize it the way he did.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:47 PM
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107. But they're the policies of *. It's directly his fault!
Do you think this would have happened if we had a Republican Congress and Gore in office?

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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 02:01 PM
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70. Poor form?
I think Bush is on a first name basis with the Devil.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 03:23 PM
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91. Because speaking truth to power is *never* the right thing to do. n/t
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 09:02 PM
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158. Poor Form?
And is it also poor form to speak at the UN and lie about Iraq WMD, as Colin Powell did? Or were you OK with that? I don't think Chavez's words are going to result in over 50,000 innocent lives.

And what has the White House Cockroach ever done for New York? Not as much as Chavez:

Individual homeowners and cooperatives in four of the city's five boroughs will be able to buy cheap fuel this winter from an oil-for-the-poor program, sources have told the Daily News.

CITGO Petroleum, the U.S. subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company, has earmarked 25 million gallons of fuel for low-income New York residents this year at 40% off the wholesale market price.


http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1822
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rman (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 11:01 AM
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187. Is that opinion or fact?
The UN audience sure thought Chavez's remarks were funny.
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Jim Stark (84 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 01:57 PM
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191. ABSOLUTELY WRONG
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 02:09 PM by Jim Stark
Chavez guy is a dangerous asshole
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LeighAnn (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:53 AM
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10. Still smells of Sulfur!
Oh he was funny!!! The talking heads are having a fit!

http://www.hereinreality.com/hugo_chavez /

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:08 PM
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24. Sulfur? Bush was having bathroom problems again?
What is it about him and the UN?
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 11:54 AM
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11. accused Washington of "domination, exploitationUpdated at 3:48 PM
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez took his verbal battle with the United States to the floor of the U.N. General Assembly on Wednesday, calling President Bush "the devil."

"The devil came here yesterday," Chavez said. "He came here talking as if he were the owner of the world."

The leftist leader, who joined Iran last week in an alliance against U.S. influence, accused Washington of "domination, exploitation and pillage of peoples of the world."

"We appeal to the people of the United States and the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our head," he said.

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=13...
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 05:53 PM
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120. I watched it on Cspan, and understood the context better
http://www.c-span.org /

I guess he doesn't sound so nutty. I'm not so worried about him....great speech really as I finish listening. He also recommended Noam Chomsky to a room full of world leaders...good suggestion.

Maybe Nostradomus meant a scientist and a hothead would save us from the manifestation of the anti-christ (instead of a scientest and a redhead)

Funny how the media spinned this; before I saw it I was believing he was ranting and raving and calling Bush the devil. But it IS more like a joke than anything else...the rest is serious.
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:55 AM
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13. Good for him
It's a really fitting name for Bush.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:56 AM
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16. Call it like it is Hugo
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 11:58 AM
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17. and THAT is the ONLY thing we'll EVER hear about that speech
in the corporate media. never mind the rest, they'll be harping about this EVERY time they mention the name chavez from now until doomsday, just like they can't say the iranian guy's name without screaming that misquote about him 'wanting to wipe israel off the map'. BOTH of whom, i might add absolutely HAMMERED bush on his war-mongering oil-thieving policies, but we'll not be hearing that part.

its instances like this that prove beyond a doubt just WHERE the corporate media's allegiances lie.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:12 PM
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29. And Chavez surely realises that
Namecalling is bound to generate headlines; it must be what Chavez wants.
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Roy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 06:36 PM
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137. The MSM harping is no big deal...
The corporate media would never report, nor discuss or analyse the rest anyway.
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nick303 (379 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 09:42 PM
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163. That was not a misquote from Iran's president
I don't think there is any doubt what his sentiment is on the matter. To think otherwise would lead me to believe you've been brainwashed.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:01 PM
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18. Hugo Is Starting to Bore Me
He was great fun in 2002.

These days he looks more like a train wreck waiting to happen.
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:05 PM
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21. Hes not there to entertain you...
he's there to help the people of Latin America... an Latin America is going through one of the greatest revolutions in its history... in a large part thanks to Hugo !
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:14 PM
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32. Very Good response!!! nt
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:17 PM
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36. That's Debatable
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:19 PM by Crisco
As I am not Venezuelan, all I'm left with is observation.

And I observe that Hugo's use of rashness, while once refreshing, is becoming old and he's descending from being a leader to be respected into a raving loon.

He's making it very easy for Washington to isolate him.
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 04:16 PM
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109. To think he's "isolated" is a credit to US media.
Venezuela will likely be elected to the Security Council in October, despite the US campaign against its bid. Have you noticed how much he's travelled the last couple of years, and how he's been received?

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Tuttle (919 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 06:09 PM
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128. sort of like the overthrow that failed?
Washington to isolate Chavez: wasn't that like in March of 2002? The CIA sponsored coup d'etat?

Tut-tut
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Taoschick (391 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:27 PM
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44. Chavez
Is certainly no statesman but he was damned lucky to be in the right place at the right time. The only thing keeping him at the top of his game right now is oil prices. If oil prices fall, he's going to have to find money for his poverty programs elsewhere. If he tries to cut programs for the poor, he'll find himself the most unpopular man in Venezuela.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:07 PM
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22. Devil, devil's minion. There is some debate on that.
Some would say Satan is Cheney. Some would say Satan is Karl Rove.

Some would not give Bush credit for being THE Devil, just the Devil's underling. But he is doing a heckuva job. I am completely sure there is a warm, welcoming place in Hell for him.
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shayes51 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:07 PM
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23. Takes one to know one.
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:18 PM
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37. Nah! A devil is easy to spot, anyone who illegally occupies another
country and kills 100,000 innocent Iraqis for oil is a devil.
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:21 PM
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38. What evil has Chavez done to warrant that comment !
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Vidar (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 01:53 AM
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180. Chavez is a "good guy" because he's an extremely able
popular leader, a champion of the poor, an implacable foe of corrupt corporations, a man of tremendous personal courage and generosity. Hating Bush is icing on the cake.
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independentpiney Donating Member (849 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 12:22 PM
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40. CNN airheads were in shock
The red headed woman asked the cnn-espanol guy how it would play in south america., and when he said alot of people agree with Chavez, she said " you mean they're against the war on terror?
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bigworld (726 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:23 PM
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42. CNN just embarasses me anymore.
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:27 PM
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43. Wow... How fucking stupid... They just don't get it .. do they ?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Sep-20-06 01:30 PM
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65. "The war on terror" that the chimp
and his handlers perpetuated by going into the wrong country? That war on terror?
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Henny Penny (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep-21-06 06:47 PM
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204. Lol... wish I'd seen that!
If only he'd said a lot of people world wide agree with Hugo.
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bigworld (726 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:22 PM
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41. hey - this certainly isn't breaking news!
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ForFuxakes (221 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:38 PM
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49. THIS JUST IN!
SATAN FILES SUIT IN NEW YORK SUPERIOR COURT

Released September 20, 2066

Satan (AKA, Lucifer) filed a lawsuit today in New York superior court against the president of Venezuela alleging that comments made during a speech at the UN General assembly have caused him irreparable psychological damage and have caused him nightmares. The alleged comments arose as a result of the President referring to the leader of the United States as the "Devil"

The lawsuit further alleges a copyright infringement in that Satan will no longer be able to use his influence to "buy peoples souls" for riches on earth as the leader of the US has started a competitive business in the military-industrial complex....

rest of the lawsuit verbiage here: www.666.com

:evilfrown:
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 02:21 PM
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74. LOL!
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ForFuxakes (221 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:38 PM
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50. Oops...double post
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:39 PM by ForFuxakes

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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:42 PM
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53. Every DUer should memorize this speech
Whenever you run across any person just look them in the eye and say: "Bush is the devil". The people who agree with you are the right thinking folk. The others will have to be dealt with.
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bamacrat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:44 PM
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54. Why is it that Bitch can call other countries leaders evil doers...
But as soon as its turned around, its blasphemy. Go Chavez.
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dolo amber (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 07:38 PM
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147. "Axis of Evil"...."Evil Empire"....
These weren't statements condemning the LEADERS of Iraq, Syria and N. Korea/USSR....these statements were condemning entire COUNTRIES and by extension the people of those countries. Chavez at the very least had the decency to single out El Diablo. ;)
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:44 PM
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55. Live Chavez press conference coming up NOW on UN webcast
channel 2, scheduled to begin at 12:45 est.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:49 PM
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56. Chavez is hardly an innocent. nt
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 12:50 PM
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57. please, continue.
you know you want to.
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 02:44 PM
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82. Go on ... tell us all about the evil things Chavez has done !
Can't can you ?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 04:43 PM
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115. You'd be doing everyone a favor by posting all those links I'm sure you
have reavealing how it is you know "Chavez is hardly an innocent."

DU'ers who've been keeping track of Venezuelan news for years would be very thankful to know what it is you've got.
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El Zopilote (21 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 01:06 PM
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59. El Diablo
I'm proud of our Hispanic community and our American and Democratic Party allies for showing support and admiration for Mr. Chavez. His speech left no doubt amongst the international community as to who El Diablo really is.

Todos a la calle!
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Radioactive (75 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 01:09 PM
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60. The courage of these nutjob leaders astounds me
Ahmadinajad, Chavez they just turn up in New York without a care in the World and let loose.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-20-06 01:41 PM
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66. We should always ask
WWHD The greatest leader leader the world has ever seen! The man is infallible. No wonder so many DU'ers follow him like the a modern day Jesus. Viva Chavez! May you rule Venezuela forever!!
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