Tripmann
(343 posts)
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:39 AM
Original message |
| 'Bush is the devil' (Chavez) |
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Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 11:40 AM by Tripmann
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1234553,00... Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has said that President Bush is "the Devil" during his address to the United Nations in New York. Viva Chavez!
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Well then since I don't believe in the devil |
OhioBlues |
Sep-20-06 11:41 AM |
#1 |
 
I don't believe in all that |
zidzi |
Sep-20-06 01:20 PM |
#62 |

I agree, I was being silly and wishful |
OhioBlues |
Sep-21-06 07:51 AM |
#184 |

I believe. |
screembloodymurder |
Sep-22-06 06:38 AM |
#209 |

Was that Great or What? |
herbbrown |
Sep-20-06 11:41 AM |
#2 |
 
Was he telling a joke or was he serious? |
gorbal |
Sep-20-06 12:22 PM |
#39 |

Yeah... |
Ka hrnt |
Sep-20-06 10:09 PM |
#166 |

"the devil was here yesterday... it still smells of sulfer today" |
rman |
Sep-21-06 11:00 AM |
#186 |

Propagandists don't care what they have to do to get fuel for their |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-21-06 03:01 PM |
#194 |

BUSH IS NOT THE DEVIL !!!!! |
tocqueville |
Sep-20-06 11:44 AM |
#3 |
 
Yah he works for CHENEY. |
goforit |
Sep-20-06 12:09 PM |
#25 |
 
Satan was his running mate. I have proof... |
chat_noir |
Sep-20-06 04:52 PM |
#117 |

That's wimp george the Bully nt |
goclark |
Sep-20-06 08:22 PM |
#153 |

WOW.... Chavez kicked Bush ass ! |
RethugAssKicker |
Sep-20-06 11:44 AM |
#4 |
 
The imperialism of the US is going to destroy the world, if not stopped. |
Freedom_from_Chains |
Sep-20-06 12:14 PM |
#33 |
 
I think I'm gonna have to read Chomsky's book |
arewenotdemo |
Sep-20-06 08:00 PM |
#148 |

Chomsky |
Jim Stark |
Sep-21-06 02:00 PM |
#192 |

Hey, thanks. You've saved us all a lot of trouble reading even more |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-21-06 03:02 PM |
#195 |

You're wrong Hugo |
Greeby |
Sep-20-06 11:45 AM |
#5 |
 
Well, some say the anti-christ is just a personable international figure. |
gorbal |
Sep-20-06 12:38 PM |
#51 |
 
bush could be, he's very devious |
alyce douglas |
Sep-20-06 03:45 PM |
#106 |

I know it'll never happen but.. |
Tripmann |
Sep-20-06 11:46 AM |
#6 |
 
Why would it not happen? |
kgfnally |
Sep-20-06 03:22 PM |
#90 |

More like an imperial statist |
NoMoreMyths |
Sep-20-06 11:47 AM |
#7 |
 
It's a metaphor |
Zensea |
Sep-20-06 11:49 AM |
#8 |

I'm sure it is |
NoMoreMyths |
Sep-20-06 12:02 PM |
#19 |

Chavez is nuts. |
Bleachers7 |
Sep-20-06 11:49 AM |
#9 |
 
Agreed |
Show_Me _The_Truth |
Sep-20-06 11:55 AM |
#12 |
  
I couldn't agree more! |
LeighAnn |
Sep-20-06 12:13 PM |
#30 |
   
hate to burst your bubble |
dwickham |
Sep-20-06 01:28 PM |
#64 |
    
Guilty! |
LeighAnn |
Sep-20-06 01:52 PM |
#68 |
   
You do not dwell in the reality-based community. eom |
geek tragedy |
Sep-20-06 02:53 PM |
#83 |
    
Reality-based community thinks 9-11 was caused by |
LeighAnn |
Sep-20-06 04:17 PM |
#110 |
     
No, you're right. It was a controlled demo and a cruise missile. eom |
geek tragedy |
Sep-20-06 06:47 PM |
#140 |
    
Well, it was because Bush was dealing with the Taliban |
LeighAnn |
Sep-21-06 05:35 PM |
#201 |
    
Oh. My. GOD. |
TheWatcher |
Sep-20-06 04:45 PM |
#116 |
   
Blaming Bush for Pol Pot's atrocities is the height of ignorance. |
geek tragedy |
Sep-20-06 06:48 PM |
#141 |
   
it's not ignorance, it's just an emotional reaction |
anotherdrew |
Sep-20-06 08:28 PM |
#155 |
   
Yes, I do doubt that he would have done worse than Pol Pot. |
geek tragedy |
Sep-20-06 09:41 PM |
#162 |
   
whoops |
anotherdrew |
Sep-21-06 12:32 AM |
#171 |
   
Possibly. But, the leadership was Richard Milhous Nixon. |
geek tragedy |
Sep-21-06 12:39 AM |
#174 |
   
so the CIA was behind the murders in Cambodia |
dwickham |
Sep-20-06 03:26 PM |
#94 |
    
many , see link |
upi402 |
Sep-20-06 03:31 PM |
#97 |
   
and here |
upi402 |
Sep-20-06 03:32 PM |
#98 |
   
by Pol Pot's regime? |
dwickham |
Sep-20-06 03:34 PM |
#99 |
   
re; cia reference |
upi402 |
Sep-20-06 03:38 PM |
#101 |
   
LeighAnn, I not one to hold back, but... |
jacklambert |
Sep-20-06 03:29 PM |
#96 |
   
"better stirred than smoked" -please clarify |
upi402 |
Sep-20-06 03:34 PM |
#100 |
    
just that |
jacklambert |
Sep-20-06 03:39 PM |
#102 |
   
thanks, smoked has 2 connotations |
upi402 |
Sep-20-06 03:41 PM |
#104 |
   
Confucious say.... |
LeighAnn |
Sep-20-06 04:21 PM |
#113 |
   
Interesting choice of words that |
arikara |
Sep-21-06 01:43 PM |
#189 |
   
No. |
Spinoza |
Sep-20-06 06:54 PM |
#144 |
  
Name-calling blows your credibility... |
jacklambert |
Sep-20-06 01:01 PM |
#58 |
 
Depends on if our Democratic President tries to overthrow him |
LeighAnn |
Sep-20-06 01:46 PM |
#67 |
 
LOL |
alcibiades_mystery |
Sep-20-06 02:43 PM |
#80 |
 
It takes a nutjob to know a nutjob. |
Chimpys_Last_Stand |
Sep-20-06 11:56 AM |
#14 |
 
Very poor form at the UN involves telling lies to lay the foundation |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-20-06 11:56 AM |
#15 |
  
You got that right |
KingFlorez |
Sep-20-06 12:03 PM |
#20 |
  
exactly!... They prefer polished talk over substance! |
RethugAssKicker |
Sep-20-06 12:12 PM |
#28 |
  
At least we agree. |
Bleachers7 |
Sep-20-06 12:29 PM |
#45 |
  
Right, and Chavez told the truth. |
zidzi |
Sep-20-06 01:27 PM |
#63 |
 
He *was* applauded. |
kgfnally |
Sep-21-06 12:36 AM |
#173 |
 
Chavez received "vigorous applause," according to The Guardian |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-21-06 12:46 AM |
#177 |
 
I know you're not talking to me. |
zidzi |
Sep-21-06 08:44 AM |
#185 |
 
Suppose you would prefer BS politico talk... double talk |
RethugAssKicker |
Sep-20-06 12:10 PM |
#26 |
  
Sorry, what's substantive about calling Bush the devil? |
Bleachers7 |
Sep-20-06 12:30 PM |
#46 |
 
Poor form? POOR FORM??!! I'd say slaughtering 100,000 people in Iraq is |
Peace Patriot |
Sep-20-06 12:11 PM |
#27 |
  
AMEN BROTHER !! |
RethugAssKicker |
Sep-20-06 12:16 PM |
#34 |
  
Thank you! |
partylessinOhio |
Sep-20-06 12:38 PM |
#52 |
  
May I second your post? |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Sep-20-06 02:26 PM |
#77 |
  
Peace Patriot... |
mithnanthy |
Sep-20-06 08:46 PM |
#157 |
  
Excellent response! |
Nihil |
Sep-21-06 05:04 AM |
#183 |
  
what PP said! |
ldf |
Sep-21-06 07:01 PM |
#205 |
 
It is not nuts to say the truth. More politicians should try it. |
cassiepriam |
Sep-20-06 12:13 PM |
#31 |
  
Prove Bush is the Devil Incarnate. |
Bleachers7 |
Sep-20-06 12:33 PM |
#47 |
 
Prove he isn't. Truth belongs anywhere, anytime. |
cassiepriam |
Sep-20-06 02:20 PM |
#73 |
  
You think Chavez cares about Iraq? |
Bleachers7 |
Sep-20-06 03:15 PM |
#87 |
 
Huh? I think we agree. eom |
geek tragedy |
Sep-20-06 03:25 PM |
#92 |
 
Because diplomats don't understand hyperbole. n/t |
kgfnally |
Sep-20-06 03:25 PM |
#93 |
 
Stop being an adult! |
scot |
Sep-21-06 12:50 AM |
#178 |
 
How about Bush sending his minion to the UN armed with a pack of lies |
arikara |
Sep-21-06 01:51 PM |
#190 |
 
Then it is high time we started to develop poor form since |
Freedom_from_Chains |
Sep-20-06 12:17 PM |
#35 |
  
The UN is a place of diplomacy. |
Bleachers7 |
Sep-20-06 12:36 PM |
#48 |
 
Oh really? |
howmad1 |
Sep-20-06 02:39 PM |
#79 |
  
I would tell that to Colin Powell |
Bleachers7 |
Sep-20-06 03:16 PM |
#88 |
 
He was being diplomatic with others |
alcibiades_mystery |
Sep-20-06 02:44 PM |
#81 |
 
He is wrong to say this at the UN--instead he could have spoken about |
rodeodance |
Sep-20-06 01:17 PM |
#61 |
  
But they're the policies of *. It's directly his fault! |
kgfnally |
Sep-20-06 03:47 PM |
#107 |
 
Poor form? |
screembloodymurder |
Sep-20-06 02:01 PM |
#70 |
 
Because speaking truth to power is *never* the right thing to do. n/t |
kgfnally |
Sep-20-06 03:23 PM |
#91 |
 
Poor Form? |
NeoConsSuck |
Sep-20-06 09:02 PM |
#158 |
 
Is that opinion or fact? |
rman |
Sep-21-06 11:01 AM |
#187 |
 
ABSOLUTELY WRONG |
Jim Stark |
Sep-21-06 01:57 PM |
#191 |

Still smells of Sulfur! |
LeighAnn |
Sep-20-06 11:53 AM |
#10 |
 
Sulfur? Bush was having bathroom problems again? |
aquart |
Sep-20-06 12:08 PM |
#24 |

accused Washington of "domination, exploitation |
cal04 |
Sep-20-06 11:54 AM |
#11 |
 
I watched it on Cspan, and understood the context better |
gorbal |
Sep-20-06 05:53 PM |
#120 |

Good for him |
KingFlorez |
Sep-20-06 11:55 AM |
#13 |

Call it like it is Hugo |
liberal N proud |
Sep-20-06 11:56 AM |
#16 |

and THAT is the ONLY thing we'll EVER hear about that speech |
HuffleClaw |
Sep-20-06 11:58 AM |
#17 |
 
And Chavez surely realises that |
muriel_volestrangler |
Sep-20-06 12:12 PM |
#29 |
 
The MSM harping is no big deal... |
Roy |
Sep-20-06 06:36 PM |
#137 |
 
That was not a misquote from Iran's president |
nick303 |
Sep-20-06 09:42 PM |
#163 |

Hugo Is Starting to Bore Me |
Crisco |
Sep-20-06 12:01 PM |
#18 |
 
Hes not there to entertain you... |
RethugAssKicker |
Sep-20-06 12:05 PM |
#21 |

Very Good response!!! nt |
VegasWolf |
Sep-20-06 12:14 PM |
#32 |

That's Debatable |
Crisco |
Sep-20-06 12:17 PM |
#36 |
 
To think he's "isolated" is a credit to US media. |
Minstrel Boy |
Sep-20-06 04:16 PM |
#109 |
 
sort of like the overthrow that failed? |
Tuttle |
Sep-20-06 06:09 PM |
#128 |

Chavez |
Taoschick |
Sep-20-06 12:27 PM |
#44 |

Devil, devil's minion. There is some debate on that. |
aquart |
Sep-20-06 12:07 PM |
#22 |

Takes one to know one. |
shayes51 |
Sep-20-06 12:07 PM |
#23 |
 
Nah! A devil is easy to spot, anyone who illegally occupies another |
VegasWolf |
Sep-20-06 12:18 PM |
#37 |
 
What evil has Chavez done to warrant that comment ! |
RethugAssKicker |
Sep-20-06 12:21 PM |
#38 |
 
Chavez is a "good guy" because he's an extremely able |
Vidar |
Sep-21-06 01:53 AM |
#180 |

CNN airheads were in shock |
independentpiney |
Sep-20-06 12:22 PM |
#40 |
 
CNN just embarasses me anymore. |
bigworld |
Sep-20-06 12:23 PM |
#42 |
 
Wow... How fucking stupid... They just don't get it .. do they ? |
RethugAssKicker |
Sep-20-06 12:27 PM |
#43 |
 
"The war on terror" that the chimp |
zidzi |
Sep-20-06 01:30 PM |
#65 |
 
Lol... wish I'd seen that! |
Henny Penny |
Sep-21-06 06:47 PM |
#204 |

hey - this certainly isn't breaking news! |
bigworld |
Sep-20-06 12:22 PM |
#41 |

THIS JUST IN! |
ForFuxakes |
Sep-20-06 12:38 PM |
#49 |
 
LOL! |
savemefromdumbya |
Sep-20-06 02:21 PM |
#74 |

Oops...double post |
ForFuxakes |
Sep-20-06 12:38 PM |
#50 |

Every DUer should memorize this speech |
AngryAmish |
Sep-20-06 12:42 PM |
#53 |

Why is it that Bitch can call other countries leaders evil doers... |
bamacrat |
Sep-20-06 12:44 PM |
#54 |
 
"Axis of Evil"...."Evil Empire".... |
dolo amber |
Sep-20-06 07:38 PM |
#147 |

Live Chavez press conference coming up NOW on UN webcast |
Minstrel Boy |
Sep-20-06 12:44 PM |
#55 |

Chavez is hardly an innocent. nt |
onehandle |
Sep-20-06 12:49 PM |
#56 |
 
please, continue. |
Minstrel Boy |
Sep-20-06 12:50 PM |
#57 |
 
Go on ... tell us all about the evil things Chavez has done ! |
RethugAssKicker |
Sep-20-06 02:44 PM |
#82 |
 
You'd be doing everyone a favor by posting all those links I'm sure you |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-20-06 04:43 PM |
#115 |

El Diablo |
El Zopilote |
Sep-20-06 01:06 PM |
#59 |

The courage of these nutjob leaders astounds me |
Radioactive |
Sep-20-06 01:09 PM |
#60 |
 
We should always ask |
Mudoria |
Sep-20-06 01:41 PM |
#66 |

That's just plain silly: Bush isn't smart enough to be the Devil. |
Ex Lion Tamer |
Sep-20-06 01:55 PM |
#69 |
 
Would you settle for donkey? |
BrotherBuzz |
Sep-20-06 02:22 PM |
#75 |
 
You're right |
killbotfactory |
Sep-20-06 03:29 PM |
#95 |
 
The CHIMPANZEE isn't Satan--He's is however a Fucking DRAFT DODGER |
saigon68 |
Sep-20-06 05:58 PM |
#123 |

Did he actually mention Bush by name or was it just assumed ... |
Sentinel Chicken |
Sep-20-06 02:06 PM |
#71 |

Tell it like it is, Hugo! |
Vidar |
Sep-20-06 02:18 PM |
#72 |

EL DIABLO! |
savemefromdumbya |
Sep-20-06 02:25 PM |
#76 |

Historians on DU- isn't this unprecedented? A personal insult like |
Olney Blue |
Sep-20-06 02:29 PM |
#78 |
 
I know Bush called Kim Jong Il a "pygmy" |
Minstrel Boy |
Sep-20-06 02:53 PM |
#84 |

Kim Jong Il is a pygmy (with horns and a tail) |
jacklambert |
Sep-20-06 04:10 PM |
#108 |

FULL TEXT OF SPEECH: |
PeaceProgProsp |
Sep-20-06 02:54 PM |
#85 |
 
Hegemony or Survival: The Imperialist Strategy of the United States.' |
killbotfactory |
Sep-20-06 03:43 PM |
#105 |
 
A courageous speech. |
ozone_man |
Sep-20-06 04:19 PM |
#112 |
  
I guess it's old school to start a speech with a joke. |
PeaceProgProsp |
Sep-20-06 04:42 PM |
#114 |
 
Good point, I guess being there |
ozone_man |
Sep-20-06 09:25 PM |
#159 |
 
Thank You So Much for Posting This |
Crisco |
Sep-20-06 06:10 PM |
#129 |
  
Thank you for amending the record. |
PeaceProgProsp |
Sep-20-06 06:59 PM |
#145 |
 
I e-mailed copies of Chavez's speech to everyone I know! |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-20-06 08:08 PM |
#149 |
 
Link to the speech |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-20-06 10:42 PM |
#168 |

Hugo the Hypocrite embraces Mugabe and Ahmadinejad. |
geek tragedy |
Sep-20-06 02:55 PM |
#86 |
 
I'm not sure that you can support that argument if you read |
PeaceProgProsp |
Sep-20-06 03:20 PM |
#89 |

bravo to telling the rest of world what we are dealing with |
alyce douglas |
Sep-20-06 03:41 PM |
#103 |

No such thing |
Strawman |
Sep-20-06 04:18 PM |
#111 |
 
Rant |
Sewsojm |
Sep-20-06 05:13 PM |
#118 |

I guess... |
NeedleCast |
Sep-20-06 05:45 PM |
#119 |
 
Venezuelans have every reason in the world to hate Bush like poison. |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-20-06 05:55 PM |
#121 |
  
And Chavez and other Venezuelans know Boosh and the fundies |
lpbk2713 |
Sep-20-06 06:03 PM |
#125 |
  
So if they hate us, and we hate them |
NeedleCast |
Sep-20-06 06:06 PM |
#126 |
   
Diplomacy's point is to avoid war |
hawkowl88 |
Sep-21-06 03:39 AM |
#182 |
  
absolutely and totally agree |
NotGivingUp |
Sep-20-06 06:47 PM |
#139 |
 
Chavez hasn't done what Bush has done |
KingFlorez |
Sep-20-06 06:07 PM |
#127 |
  
I agree |
NeedleCast |
Sep-20-06 06:10 PM |
#130 |
 
You said there was no difference between the two |
KingFlorez |
Sep-20-06 06:14 PM |
#132 |
 
I agreed that Chavez... |
NeedleCast |
Sep-20-06 06:25 PM |
#135 |
 
Ok, you make some good |
durtee librul |
Sep-20-06 08:18 PM |
#150 |

Thanks for your observations made during your Ontario trip, durtee librul. |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-20-06 08:37 PM |
#156 |

LOL! |
Megahurtz |
Sep-20-06 05:57 PM |
#122 |

Safe bet; No state visits on the horizon for Hugo nt |
kitty1 |
Sep-20-06 05:59 PM |
#124 |

Excuse Me, But This Isn't Latest Breaking News... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Sep-20-06 06:12 PM |
#131 |

which is nuttier: starting a disastrous war, or calling the guy who did... |
NorthernSpy |
Sep-20-06 06:15 PM |
#133 |

I...LOVE....CHAVEZ ... |
diamidue |
Sep-20-06 06:24 PM |
#134 |

Hey Chavez, FUCK YOU AND YOUR OIL! eom |
MGD |
Sep-20-06 06:26 PM |
#136 |
 
Hey, Bush, FUCK YOU and your oilmen friends! |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-20-06 06:49 PM |
#142 |
  
I've no argument with that Indiana. nt |
MGD |
Sep-21-06 05:34 PM |
#200 |
 
you must be a big devil (BUSH) fan. |
olddad56 |
Sep-20-06 07:32 PM |
#146 |
  
I guess Charlie Rangel is a big devil (Bush) fan too. |
MGD |
Sep-21-06 05:17 PM |
#196 |
   
Who among us is simply too underfunded to recognize an old man |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-21-06 05:22 PM |
#197 |
  
I love the neurotic mental constructions created by internet |
MGD |
Sep-21-06 05:33 PM |
#199 |
  
Are you saying the same people who said "We'll fuck him like he's never |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-21-06 05:49 PM |
#203 |
  
I'm pretty sure I never said any such thing Judi. |
MGD |
Sep-21-06 08:08 PM |
#206 |
  
I Guess Nanci Pelosi, the Democratic leader of the House is a big fan too. |
MGD |
Sep-21-06 05:46 PM |
#202 |
 
I'm guessing Chavez is not worried by what American rednecks think. nt |
VegasWolf |
Sep-20-06 09:31 PM |
#160 |

Bush is the Devil, the Anti-Christ, a despot, a tyrant, a war criminal |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-20-06 06:41 PM |
#138 |
 
yep, yep, yep, yep and yep. Viva Chavez! Viva Venezuela! |
NotGivingUp |
Sep-20-06 06:50 PM |
#143 |

The Guardian: Chávez attacks 'devil' Bush in UN speech |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-20-06 08:19 PM |
#151 |

YOu can read some excerpts from "Hegemony" here- |
gorbal |
Sep-20-06 08:20 PM |
#152 |

Chavez already proved himself to people of good will long ago. |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-20-06 08:25 PM |
#154 |

I loved the part about the sulfur smell -hilarious |
hollowdweller |
Sep-20-06 09:33 PM |
#161 |
 
Yes, therefore we are supposed to hate him |
upi402 |
Sep-20-06 09:52 PM |
#164 |
 
That old Bush "evil" rhetoric was old the first time he used it! |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-20-06 09:53 PM |
#165 |
 
I confess that I laughed out loud -- Bush's liking for fart jokes |
Lisa |
Sep-21-06 02:22 PM |
#193 |

I don't know if Bush is the Devil, but I absolutely |
antonialee839 |
Sep-20-06 10:35 PM |
#167 |

Chavez is a brilliant performer. |
Matilda |
Sep-20-06 11:44 PM |
#169 |
 
I noticed on Anderson Coopers 11 p.m. segment |
go west young man |
Sep-21-06 12:26 AM |
#170 |
  
CNN ditched the UN translator for their own |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-21-06 12:35 AM |
#172 |
   
I'm surprised Anderson Cooper does this too as I've seen him |
go west young man |
Sep-21-06 01:23 AM |
#179 |
   
That reminds me of when they bombed and killed Chilean ambassador |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-21-06 01:58 AM |
#181 |
  
NPR does that too with Venezuelan government officials. |
1932 |
Sep-21-06 12:39 AM |
#175 |
 
He's got a great message, which makes the performance easier. |
1932 |
Sep-21-06 12:43 AM |
#176 |

Chavez also said Bush needed a psychiatric examination |
lebkuchen |
Sep-21-06 12:06 PM |
#188 |

zOMG THE METAPHORS!!! |
TheModernTerrorist |
Sep-21-06 05:22 PM |
#198 |

Why doesn't the Repub Media mention what the Pope Called Bush? |
farmboxer |
Sep-22-06 05:36 AM |
#207 |

The CHIMP is an Evil War criminal who kills |
saigon68 |
Sep-22-06 06:25 AM |
#208 |
LaurenG
(1000+ posts)
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:41 AM
Response to Original message |
| 1. Well then since I don't believe in the devil |
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that must mean there is no such thing as bush. Wow, this has been one long delusion or nightmare then huh.
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Cha
(1000+ posts)
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 62. I don't believe in all that |
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Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 01:22 PM by zidzi
stuff, either, but I know what Chavez means.
From Merriam Webster..
devil
"1 often capitalized : the personal supreme spirit of evil often represented in Jewish and Christian belief as the tempter of humankind, the leader of all apostate angels, and the ruler of hell -- usually used with the; often used as an interjection, an intensive, or a generalized term of abuse <what the devil is this?> <the devil you say!> 2 : an evil spirit : DEMON 3 a : an extremely wicked person : FIEND : a great evil
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LaurenG
(1000+ posts)
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Thu Sep-21-06 07:51 AM
Response to Reply #62 |
| 184. I agree, I was being silly and wishful |
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You know pretending there was no such thing as bush. Ahh if only we could have elected someone with of all things integrity and a good heart.
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screembloodymurder
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Fri Sep-22-06 06:38 AM
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I am certain Bush is the anti-Christ or an ACC: anti-Christ cheerleader.
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herbbrown
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:41 AM
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| 2. Was that Great or What? |
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Better yet it went over well to his audience, they aplauded, they laughed, Hugo was a big hit. Hope he doesn't recieve a big hit.
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gorbal
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
| 39. Was he telling a joke or was he serious? |
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I hope he hasn't gone THAT far off the deep end.
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Ka hrnt
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Wed Sep-20-06 10:09 PM
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...what's going to happen if/when the dems take back over? Who will be Chavez's boogeyman then?
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rman
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Thu Sep-21-06 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #39 |
| 186. "the devil was here yesterday... it still smells of sulfer today" |
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(applause and giggles from the audience)
That should be enough to figure out if it was told in jest (although the point he made was serious), or whether he really thinks Bush is the devil.
Makes me wonder if Reagan was serious or not when he said the communists are devils.
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Sep-21-06 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #186 |
| 194. Propagandists don't care what they have to do to get fuel for their |
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campaigns. The very idea of considering context is abhorrent to them!
To the rest of us, context is everything. Thanks for pointing it out.
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tocqueville
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:44 AM
Response to Original message |
| 3. BUSH IS NOT THE DEVIL !!!!! |
goforit
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 25. Yah he works for CHENEY. |
chat_noir
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Wed Sep-20-06 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 117. Satan was his running mate. I have proof... |
goclark
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Wed Sep-20-06 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #117 |
| 153. That's wimp george the Bully nt |
RethugAssKicker
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:44 AM
Response to Original message |
| 4. WOW.... Chavez kicked Bush ass ! |
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Chavez gave a fantastic straight to the point speech, that told it just like it is... The imperialism of the US is going to destroy the world, if not stopped.
No political side-stepping, no forked-tongue talking; Chavez spoke in the common mans language !
He brought up Noam Chomskys book and recommended everyone at the UN to read it.
Unbelievable speech !
VIVA CHAVEZ !!!!!! VIVA CHAVEZ !!!!
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Freedom_from_Chains
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #4 |
| 33. The imperialism of the US is going to destroy the world, if not stopped. |
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And that is what I am afraid that a bunch of countries are going to come to the conclusion of, and we are in deep shit when they do. We may have a lot of nuclear warheads, but we are not invincible like a lot of people seem to think we are.
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arewenotdemo
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Wed Sep-20-06 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #4 |
| 148. I think I'm gonna have to read Chomsky's book |
Jim Stark
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Thu Sep-21-06 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #148 |
Judi Lynn
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Thu Sep-21-06 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #192 |
| 195. Hey, thanks. You've saved us all a lot of trouble reading even more |
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of his writing.
Maybe you could suggest a better source.
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Greeby
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:45 AM
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He can't be the anti-christ, that'd be too obvious and he's too stupid 
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gorbal
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 51. Well, some say the anti-christ is just a personable international figure. |
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I think it was Nostrodamus. Acording to him, some red-head from the lower classes and a scientist will save us from him...so watch out for red-heads and scientests.
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bdamomma
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 106. bush could be, he's very devious |
Tripmann
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:46 AM
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| 6. I know it'll never happen but.. |
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..can you imagine Stewart and Colbert having this guy as a guest LOL!!
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Occulus
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #6 |
| 90. Why would it not happen? |
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Seems to me, if Chavez really wanted to make a statement, he could accept an invite from TDS or Colbert, and decline a similar offer from *.
Heh. I wonder what the response from the WH to that would be.
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The2ndWheel
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:47 AM
Response to Original message |
| 7. More like an imperial statist |
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Not sure why we have to bring the supernatural into this.
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Zensea
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #7 |
The2ndWheel
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:02 PM
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But it doesn't help. Granted, calling him an imperial statist won't stop anything. Either way we're getting nowhere quick.
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Renew Deal
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:49 AM
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Whether he believes that or not, it's poor form to say something like that at the UN.
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Show_Me _The_Truth
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #9 |
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We would be criticizing Bush if he used language like that. And even did criticize him when he used terms like Axis of Evil.
But its Hugo, he gets a pass.
Solves nothing and sounds like old Communist Rhetoric with the "Yankee Go Home" line.
Calls Bush the Devil, but cozies up to people like Ahmadenijad.
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LeighAnn
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #12 |
| 30. I couldn't agree more! |
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With Chavez, that is. Bush is responsible for more wholesale mass murder than anyone since Hitler. The Devil indeed! Good to finally hear somebody telling it like it is!
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davidinalameda
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #30 |
| 64. hate to burst your bubble |
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Pol Pot; the Soviet leaders; etc
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LeighAnn
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #64 |
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He's guilty of those murders too... by assoCIAtion.
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geek tragedy
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Wed Sep-20-06 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #68 |
| 83. You do not dwell in the reality-based community. eom |
LeighAnn
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Wed Sep-20-06 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #83 |
| 110. Reality-based community thinks 9-11 was caused by |
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Reality-based community thinks 9-11 was caused by Islamist Fascists who Hate Our Freedoms. In this sense, I do not dwell there.
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geek tragedy
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Wed Sep-20-06 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #110 |
| 140. No, you're right. It was a controlled demo and a cruise missile. eom |
LeighAnn
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Thu Sep-21-06 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #140 |
| 201. Well, it was because Bush was dealing with the Taliban |
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In the days leading up to September 11. Trying to put a pipeline through Afghanistan, you see. The Taliban wanted too much money. Read about John O'Neill, the FBI chief who spent years trying to get bin Laden and disrupt al CIAda only to be thwarted because Bushco was trying to make a sweet deal with the Taliban.
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TheWatcher
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Wed Sep-20-06 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #83 |
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Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 04:46 PM by TheWatcher
If there was EVER a Pot-Kettle Post on DU, THIS was it. 
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geek tragedy
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Wed Sep-20-06 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #116 |
| 141. Blaming Bush for Pol Pot's atrocities is the height of ignorance. |
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Hell, was he even old enough to drink back then?
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anotherdrew
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Wed Sep-20-06 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #141 |
| 155. it's not ignorance, it's just an emotional reaction |
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anyway, do you doubt that had bush been around at the time he would have done any different? of course he might have been worse, but 'in spirit' he's no different than any of our past foolish murderous leaders who would gladly do it all over again.
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geek tragedy
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Wed Sep-20-06 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #155 |
| 162. Yes, I do doubt that he would have done worse than Pol Pot. |
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He's still a criminal, but he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame with guys like Pol Pot and Hitler.
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anotherdrew
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Thu Sep-21-06 12:32 AM
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I didn't mean worse than Pol Pot, I meant 'make worse choices than the US leadership at the time did"
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geek tragedy
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Thu Sep-21-06 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #171 |
| 174. Possibly. But, the leadership was Richard Milhous Nixon. |
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Nixon vs. Bush is kinda like Ruth vs. Aaron, except in a cynical, sucky way.
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davidinalameda
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #68 |
| 94. so the CIA was behind the murders in Cambodia |
upi402
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #94 |
upi402
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #97 |
davidinalameda
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #97 |
upi402
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #99 |
jacklambert
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #68 |
| 96. LeighAnn, I not one to hold back, but... |
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you are at a level of hatred that defies logic. You really have to base your criticism in reality or you are going to lose credibility from even the sharpest Bush critics.
Or then again, maybe you're here just to stir the pot...but whatever, better stirred than smoked.
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upi402
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #96 |
| 100. "better stirred than smoked" -please clarify |
jacklambert
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #100 |
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it's better to be discussing beyond the realms of rational thought purposely because you're trying to stir the pot and not un-purposely because your high on pot.
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upi402
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #102 |
| 104. thanks, smoked has 2 connotations |
LeighAnn
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Wed Sep-20-06 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #104 |
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"Man who stand on toilet high on pot"
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arikara
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Thu Sep-21-06 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #96 |
| 189. Interesting choice of words that |
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"level of hatred". Did she say she hated anyone? What I get from her is that she's not into buying the official hook, line and sinker. When we are lied to over and over and over, what should "reality" be based upon? Its always interesting to see who these Chavez threads brings out of the woodwork. 
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Spinoza
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Wed Sep-20-06 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #30 |
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The greatest mass murderer in history is Mao Tse Tung. Read "Mao, The Unknown Story" by Jung Chang and Jon Halliday. Mao's killings made Hitler, Pol Pot and even Stalin look like pikers. Bush doesn't even come close.
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jacklambert
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #12 |
| 58. Name-calling blows your credibility... |
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Chavez did nothing but divided people. I wonder what his views on Clinton, Gore or Kerry would be??
The US has always been involved in global activity. Will Chavez feel the same when a Democratic President is elected. Will he remain a thorn in the side of our leader no matter what affiliation??
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LeighAnn
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #58 |
| 67. Depends on if our Democratic President tries to overthrow him |
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Generally, when one president tries to overthrow another president, that president wants to become a thorn in the side of the president that tried to overthrow him.
You can't call what Bush has done to the world "Global Activity". Mass murder, that's all.
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alcibiades_mystery
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Wed Sep-20-06 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #58 |
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I'm pretty sure Chavez doesn't give a good goddamn what power brokers in the US think, Democratic or Republican. Here's what's going to have to get through the head of every American at some point this century: people like Chavez are not speaking TO YOU. You can address the world whilke not addressing the United States. In fact, for many, that is an imperative, in the same way inmates planning a revolt would not be speaking to the guards.
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ClusterFreak
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 14. It takes a nutjob to know a nutjob. |
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Which is why Chavez comments about Bush were so bang on. Calling him the Devil and that it still smelled of sulphur up there, and that a psychiatrist should be called in to understand Bush's comments or whatever...I mean, that shit is just pure gold. Hugo brought his "A" material, and should be headlining on the comedy club circuit. Even if a puffed-up, blustering demagogue like Chavez was delivering these comments, it was friggin' great to hear them. Bush is a puffed-up, blustering demagogue himself, so....
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Judi Lynn
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:56 AM
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| 15. Very poor form at the UN involves telling lies to lay the foundation |
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for campaigns of mass murder and acquisition.
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KingFlorez
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:03 PM
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RethugAssKicker
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 28. exactly!... They prefer polished talk over substance! |
Renew Deal
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
Cha
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 63. Right, and Chavez told the truth. |
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I'm say "poor form" is having bolton as the ambassador(yeah right) and chimp's lies.
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Occulus
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Thu Sep-21-06 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #63 |
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But I bet you think THAT was poor form as well.
I keep seeing that phrase, "poor form", used over and over again tonight, by the same, small group of DUers.
One could imagine they were being paid to say as much.
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IndianaGreen
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Thu Sep-21-06 12:46 AM
Response to Reply #173 |
| 177. Chavez received "vigorous applause," according to The Guardian |
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I agree with you that "poor form" is part of a GOP talking point. Bush got tepid applause when he embarrassed himself at the UN.
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Cha
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Thu Sep-21-06 08:44 AM
Response to Reply #173 |
| 185. I know you're not talking to me. |
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My "poor form" is in quotes and I'm talking about bolton and bush.
It just looks like you're addressing my post.
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RethugAssKicker
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 26. Suppose you would prefer BS politico talk... double talk |
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the ususal confusing, double meanings....
Or as the American Indians used to say
White man speak with forked tongue !
Chavez told it like it is !
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Renew Deal
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #26 |
| 46. Sorry, what's substantive about calling Bush the devil? |
Peace Patriot
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 27. Poor form? POOR FORM??!! I'd say slaughtering 100,000 people in Iraq is |
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"poor form." I'd say advocating and employing torture is "poor form." I'd say looting the federal government is "poor form." I'd say shredding the Constitution is "poor form." I'd say spitting on international law is "poor form." I'd say letting the poor rot and die in the Katrina disaster is "poor form." I'd say applauding (and probably abetting) an attempted violent military coup in Venezuela is "poor form." I'd say pouring US taxpayer dollars illegally into Venezuelan elections, in support of the rich oil elite, is "poor form." I'd say freeing US-based global corporate predators of regulation and rightful taxation, and spreading sweatshop labor and impoverishment around the world, is "poor form." I'd say Bechtel Corp. privatizing the water in Bolivia, and then jacking up the prices to the poorest of the poor--even charging poor peasants for collecting rainwater!--is "poor form." I'd say giving billions of dollars to your vice president's company in no-bid contracts is "poor form." I'd say permitting gas gouging by your multi-billionaire buds in the oil industry is "poor form." I'd say stealing US elections is "poor form."
And I'd say that Hugo Chavez is a brilliant, and brave, and very funny man! Calling Bush "the devil" hit the metaphorical nail right on its head. Billions and billions of people are smiling about it today. The whole world is smiling. Yup. The devil and his evil ways. And imagine someone brave enough to SAY it! Very inspiring to all.
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RethugAssKicker
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
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Poor form... What BS to even think of, when compared to the EVIL WAYS of American Imperialism
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partylessinOhio
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
Hell Hath No Fury
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Wed Sep-20-06 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
| 77. May I second your post? |
mithnanthy
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Wed Sep-20-06 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
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You are absolutely right! Chavez told it like it is! Finally somebody has the balls to rattle Chimpy's cage.
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Nihil
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Thu Sep-21-06 05:04 AM
Response to Reply #27 |
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As you say, it's good to find that there are still people brave enough to say it, knowing that the mighty US publicity machine will turn on him (not to mention some of the more shadowy aspects of the US machine). Hope he has an anthrax detector for his mail.
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ldf
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Thu Sep-21-06 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
cassiepriam
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 31. It is not nuts to say the truth. More politicians should try it. |
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Bush is the devil incarnate.
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Renew Deal
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 47. Prove Bush is the Devil Incarnate. |
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Until you can, it's hyperbolic bullshit that doesn't belong in a diplomatic chamber.
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cassiepriam
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Wed Sep-20-06 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #47 |
| 73. Prove he isn't. Truth belongs anywhere, anytime. |
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Especially when it saves lifes.
Iraqi men, women and babies are being killed, raped and tortured every day. Any one who works to stop this is on the side of the angels.
I pray Bleachers that you will use your intelligence and courage to fight the good fight. Not start dissension on DU.
I hope you can feel my prayers now.
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Renew Deal
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 87. You think Chavez cares about Iraq? |
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What is he doing to stop anything? All he does is self promotion and he does this constantly. But of course, that's not the point. Two wrongs don't make a right and juvenile name calling is not appropriate at the UN.
I pray cassiepriam that you will use your intelligence and courage to fight the good fight. Not start dissension on DU.
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geek tragedy
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #87 |
| 92. Huh? I think we agree. eom |
Occulus
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #47 |
| 93. Because diplomats don't understand hyperbole. n/t |
scot
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Thu Sep-21-06 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #47 |
| 178. Stop being an adult! |
arikara
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Thu Sep-21-06 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #47 |
| 190. How about Bush sending his minion to the UN armed with a pack of lies |
Freedom_from_Chains
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 35. Then it is high time we started to develop poor form since |
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Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:17 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
most of our leaders in the Democratic party won't do it. You may have not noticed but Bush has done a great job of taking over this country using religious metaphors. Apparently sheep respond well to them.
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Renew Deal
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 48. The UN is a place of diplomacy. |
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Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:36 PM by Bleachers7
It's supposed to be a place of peace. How does calling someone the devil fit in with that? It doesn't matter if you believe Bush is the devil, devil incarnate, a dirt devil, or Satan himself. It's just not appropriate for a place like the UN.
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howmad1
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Wed Sep-20-06 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #48 |
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Tell that to Colin Powell who spewed the worst lies ever in this "place of democracy". Cheers for Hugo Chavez. Oh, BTW, tell me all the great success the UN has had in the past few years to advance the cause for world peace.
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Renew Deal
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #79 |
| 88. I would tell that to Colin Powell |
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Though I think he already knows. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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alcibiades_mystery
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Wed Sep-20-06 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #48 |
| 81. He was being diplomatic with others |
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He started with the common values and commonly held assumption of most of the planet. 
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rodeodance
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 61. He is wrong to say this at the UN--instead he could have spoken about |
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the effect of US policies on the world. not personalize it the way he did.
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Occulus
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #61 |
| 107. But they're the policies of *. It's directly his fault! |
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Do you think this would have happened if we had a Republican Congress and Gore in office?
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screembloodymurder
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Wed Sep-20-06 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
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I think Bush is on a first name basis with the Devil.
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Occulus
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Wed Sep-20-06 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 91. Because speaking truth to power is *never* the right thing to do. n/t |
NeoConsSuck
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Wed Sep-20-06 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
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And is it also poor form to speak at the UN and lie about Iraq WMD, as Colin Powell did? Or were you OK with that? I don't think Chavez's words are going to result in over 50,000 innocent lives. And what has the White House Cockroach ever done for New York? Not as much as Chavez: Individual homeowners and cooperatives in four of the city's five boroughs will be able to buy cheap fuel this winter from an oil-for-the-poor program, sources have told the Daily News.
CITGO Petroleum, the U.S. subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company, has earmarked 25 million gallons of fuel for low-income New York residents this year at 40% off the wholesale market price. http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1822
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rman
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Thu Sep-21-06 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 187. Is that opinion or fact? |
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The UN audience sure thought Chavez's remarks were funny.
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Jim Stark
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Thu Sep-21-06 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
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Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 02:09 PM by Jim Stark
Chavez guy is a dangerous asshole
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LeighAnn
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:53 AM
Response to Original message |
| 10. Still smells of Sulfur! |
aquart
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
| 24. Sulfur? Bush was having bathroom problems again? |
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What is it about him and the UN?
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cal04
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:54 AM
Response to Original message |
| 11. accused Washington of "domination, exploitation |  |
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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez took his verbal battle with the United States to the floor of the U.N. General Assembly on Wednesday, calling President Bush "the devil." "The devil came here yesterday," Chavez said. "He came here talking as if he were the owner of the world." The leftist leader, who joined Iran last week in an alliance against U.S. influence, accused Washington of "domination, exploitation and pillage of peoples of the world." "We appeal to the people of the United States and the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our head," he said. http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=13...
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gorbal
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Wed Sep-20-06 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #11 |
| 120. I watched it on Cspan, and understood the context better |
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http://www.c-span.org / I guess he doesn't sound so nutty. I'm not so worried about him....great speech really as I finish listening. He also recommended Noam Chomsky to a room full of world leaders...good suggestion. Maybe Nostradomus meant a scientist and a hothead would save us from the manifestation of the anti-christ (instead of a scientest and a redhead) Funny how the media spinned this; before I saw it I was believing he was ranting and raving and calling Bush the devil. But it IS more like a joke than anything else...the rest is serious.
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KingFlorez
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:55 AM
Response to Original message |
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It's a really fitting name for Bush.
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liberal N proud
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:56 AM
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| 16. Call it like it is Hugo |
HuffleClaw
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Wed Sep-20-06 11:58 AM
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| 17. and THAT is the ONLY thing we'll EVER hear about that speech |
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in the corporate media. never mind the rest, they'll be harping about this EVERY time they mention the name chavez from now until doomsday, just like they can't say the iranian guy's name without screaming that misquote about him 'wanting to wipe israel off the map'. BOTH of whom, i might add absolutely HAMMERED bush on his war-mongering oil-thieving policies, but we'll not be hearing that part.
its instances like this that prove beyond a doubt just WHERE the corporate media's allegiances lie.
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muriel_volestrangler
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:12 PM
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| 29. And Chavez surely realises that |
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Namecalling is bound to generate headlines; it must be what Chavez wants.
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Roy
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Wed Sep-20-06 06:36 PM
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| 137. The MSM harping is no big deal... |
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The corporate media would never report, nor discuss or analyse the rest anyway.
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nick303
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Wed Sep-20-06 09:42 PM
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| 163. That was not a misquote from Iran's president |
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I don't think there is any doubt what his sentiment is on the matter. To think otherwise would lead me to believe you've been brainwashed.
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NashVegas
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:01 PM
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| 18. Hugo Is Starting to Bore Me |
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He was great fun in 2002.
These days he looks more like a train wreck waiting to happen.
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RethugAssKicker
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:05 PM
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| 21. Hes not there to entertain you... |
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he's there to help the people of Latin America... an Latin America is going through one of the greatest revolutions in its history... in a large part thanks to Hugo !
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VegasWolf
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:14 PM
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| 32. Very Good response!!! nt |
NashVegas
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:17 PM
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Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:19 PM by Crisco
As I am not Venezuelan, all I'm left with is observation.
And I observe that Hugo's use of rashness, while once refreshing, is becoming old and he's descending from being a leader to be respected into a raving loon.
He's making it very easy for Washington to isolate him.
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Minstrel Boy
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Wed Sep-20-06 04:16 PM
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| 109. To think he's "isolated" is a credit to US media. |
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Venezuela will likely be elected to the Security Council in October, despite the US campaign against its bid. Have you noticed how much he's travelled the last couple of years, and how he's been received?
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Tuttle
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Wed Sep-20-06 06:09 PM
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| 128. sort of like the overthrow that failed? |
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Washington to isolate Chavez: wasn't that like in March of 2002? The CIA sponsored coup d'etat?
Tut-tut
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Taoschick
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:27 PM
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Is certainly no statesman but he was damned lucky to be in the right place at the right time. The only thing keeping him at the top of his game right now is oil prices. If oil prices fall, he's going to have to find money for his poverty programs elsewhere. If he tries to cut programs for the poor, he'll find himself the most unpopular man in Venezuela.
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aquart
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:07 PM
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| 22. Devil, devil's minion. There is some debate on that. |
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Some would say Satan is Cheney. Some would say Satan is Karl Rove.
Some would not give Bush credit for being THE Devil, just the Devil's underling. But he is doing a heckuva job. I am completely sure there is a warm, welcoming place in Hell for him.
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shayes51
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:07 PM
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| 23. Takes one to know one. |
VegasWolf
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:18 PM
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| 37. Nah! A devil is easy to spot, anyone who illegally occupies another |
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country and kills 100,000 innocent Iraqis for oil is a devil.
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RethugAssKicker
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:21 PM
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| 38. What evil has Chavez done to warrant that comment ! |
Vidar
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Thu Sep-21-06 01:53 AM
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| 180. Chavez is a "good guy" because he's an extremely able |
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popular leader, a champion of the poor, an implacable foe of corrupt corporations, a man of tremendous personal courage and generosity. Hating Bush is icing on the cake.
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independentpiney
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:22 PM
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| 40. CNN airheads were in shock |
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The red headed woman asked the cnn-espanol guy how it would play in south america., and when he said alot of people agree with Chavez, she said " you mean they're against the war on terror?
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bigworld
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:23 PM
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| 42. CNN just embarasses me anymore. |
RethugAssKicker
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:27 PM
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| 43. Wow... How fucking stupid... They just don't get it .. do they ? |
Cha
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:30 PM
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| 65. "The war on terror" that the chimp |
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and his handlers perpetuated by going into the wrong country? That war on terror?
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Henny Penny
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Thu Sep-21-06 06:47 PM
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| 204. Lol... wish I'd seen that! |
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If only he'd said a lot of people world wide agree with Hugo.
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bigworld
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:22 PM
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| 41. hey - this certainly isn't breaking news! |
ForFuxakes
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:38 PM
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SATAN FILES SUIT IN NEW YORK SUPERIOR COURT Released September 20, 2066 Satan (AKA, Lucifer) filed a lawsuit today in New York superior court against the president of Venezuela alleging that comments made during a speech at the UN General assembly have caused him irreparable psychological damage and have caused him nightmares. The alleged comments arose as a result of the President referring to the leader of the United States as the "Devil" The lawsuit further alleges a copyright infringement in that Satan will no longer be able to use his influence to "buy peoples souls" for riches on earth as the leader of the US has started a competitive business in the military-industrial complex.... rest of the lawsuit verbiage here: www.666.com
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savemefromdumbya
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Wed Sep-20-06 02:21 PM
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ForFuxakes
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:38 PM
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Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:39 PM by ForFuxakes
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AngryAmish
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:42 PM
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| 53. Every DUer should memorize this speech |
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Whenever you run across any person just look them in the eye and say: "Bush is the devil". The people who agree with you are the right thinking folk. The others will have to be dealt with.
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bamacrat
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:44 PM
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| 54. Why is it that Bitch can call other countries leaders evil doers... |
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But as soon as its turned around, its blasphemy. Go Chavez.
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dolo amber
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Wed Sep-20-06 07:38 PM
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| 147. "Axis of Evil"...."Evil Empire".... |
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These weren't statements condemning the LEADERS of Iraq, Syria and N. Korea/USSR....these statements were condemning entire COUNTRIES and by extension the people of those countries. Chavez at the very least had the decency to single out El Diablo. 
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Minstrel Boy
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:44 PM
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| 55. Live Chavez press conference coming up NOW on UN webcast |
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channel 2, scheduled to begin at 12:45 est.
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onehandle
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:49 PM
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| 56. Chavez is hardly an innocent. nt |
Minstrel Boy
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Wed Sep-20-06 12:50 PM
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RethugAssKicker
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Wed Sep-20-06 02:44 PM
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| 82. Go on ... tell us all about the evil things Chavez has done ! |
Judi Lynn
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Wed Sep-20-06 04:43 PM
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| 115. You'd be doing everyone a favor by posting all those links I'm sure you |
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have reavealing how it is you know "Chavez is hardly an innocent."
DU'ers who've been keeping track of Venezuelan news for years would be very thankful to know what it is you've got.
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El Zopilote
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:06 PM
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I'm proud of our Hispanic community and our American and Democratic Party allies for showing support and admiration for Mr. Chavez. His speech left no doubt amongst the international community as to who El Diablo really is.
Todos a la calle!
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Radioactive
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:09 PM
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| 60. The courage of these nutjob leaders astounds me |
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Ahmadinajad, Chavez they just turn up in New York without a care in the World and let loose.
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Mudoria
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Wed Sep-20-06 01:41 PM
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WWHD The greatest leader leader the world has ever seen! The man is infallible. No wonder so many DU'ers follow him like the a modern day Jesus. Viva Chavez! May you rule Venezuela forever!!
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