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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:18 PM Original message |
Teacher reassigned after burning U.S. flags in class |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sig Heil Ya'll nt |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. Free Speech Lesson #1 |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
71. So much for the principle of academic freedom. (n/t) |
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Ready4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. Lord knows... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. Deleted message |
pepperbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. Devil's advocate on 1 point.... |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 07:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Agreed |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Was it even necessary to burn the flag? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. Wow, somebody actually burned a flag! |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 12:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. What's even more incredible, he did it in Kentucky. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 07:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Maybe he should have burned a bible, too. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Are you kidding? This idiot teacher would have been fired in ANY state. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
90. What if he burned an unrelated object? |
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wordpix2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
92. burning a flag or a paper bag in a class is pretty stupid & a risk to kids |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
72. Those "red state talibornagains" will probably celebrate the teacher's |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
78. Being a teacher myself in the Jefferson Co, Public Schools, I am |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
8. With rights come responsibilities. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 03:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Agreed |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 04:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Really? |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 04:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Well... |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 08:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Good link.... |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Did Jane Elliot burn a flag in class? |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 10:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
54. No she didn't, but... |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. I agree that unorthodox teaching methods can be very effective. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. You don't get it: the uproar is the lesson. Bravo to this teacher |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I'm sure one of us doesn't get it. |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. I thought she was fired over it. |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 05:10 AM Response to Reply #68 |
81. Not sure if its in the Frontline... |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. I found this.... |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Great quote.... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 04:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Burning the flag is not just a stunt. |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 07:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I agree, but |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
55. And I Disagree |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Burning the flag IS a stunt. |
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Alexodin (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 04:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Free speech and unpopular speech are not by definition idiocy. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Voltaire said it, and I agree with him. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
74. This teacher very clearly "thought" about it before the class. Of course |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 07:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. totally agree |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 07:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I'm with you |
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GeorgiaDem69 (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 07:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Agreed |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 10:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
56. Oh, and they do... |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
38. Then we wonder why americans slit blithley by while our country implodes. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. That was a wonderfully sarcastic reply, only not very realistic. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 02:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Hmm... I don't believe I attacked "you" at any point. |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
19. I'd take one creative teacher like this over 100 who play it safe. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 08:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Oh, please |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 08:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Why? Did he have a drumroll or something...? |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Yeah, its really melodramatic to actually dare to USE the 1st Amendment... |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. These kids will never forget what they have learned about the suppression |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
58. I think its fair to think... |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 08:06 AM Response to Reply #21 |
46. Melodramatic? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Er, where the fuck did I say I was for a constitutional |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 08:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. That "stupid little act" Just Taught Those Kids a REAL Lesson |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Hear Hear n/t |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
22. Starting fires in a classroom... |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. My chemistry teacher lived to set fires in class, or explosions |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
49. Science Classroom vs. Non-Science Classroom |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #49 |
62. "Social Sciences" |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Ah, maybe that is true |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. These Were Not Full-Sized Flags |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
91. Heh. See #90. -nt |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
24. Not too bright??? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
27. This teacher makes Idiot Of The Week |
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mccoyn (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
30. One of my middle school teachers burned hydrogen in class. |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
31. The teacher pushed his own views down their throats |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Yes, the horrible view that the first amendment actually means something! |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 07:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Oh stop right there |
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Khayembii Communique (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Quit your bellyaching |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
79. It may comply with constitutional law but it sure doesn't comply with ~ |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 11:07 AM Response to Reply #45 |
60. BS |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #60 |
86. As soon as he set fire to the flag he silenced debate |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #86 |
93. Not true |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. So if he had made racist remarks |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
35. He couldn't use video or pictures? |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
61. Simple. |
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soaky (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
39. geez |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 07:41 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Point: he might have set fire to the classroom. Or the school. |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 09:57 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Guess your kids won't be taking chemistry. n/t |
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YankeyMCC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
44. Let's put two statements from the article in perspective |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. He could have gotten a buzz a number of ways. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
52. I agree with the teather's stance... |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
57. Sounds like an awesome assignment, actually. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. I agree with you... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
64. Teaching K-12 will do this to you. After another year, he'd burn himself |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 05:34 AM Response to Reply #64 |
83. Yeah he might re-enact the Buddhist protests in Vietnam |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. I think K-12 would be better if run like college. Administrators |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
67. I have no problem with this at all. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Alternatives |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 05:40 AM Response to Reply #70 |
84. This is a difficult proposition... |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Banned Book Week is coming up |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
75. Good thing that he doesn't teach sex ed |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 05:21 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Haha... |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
77. Oh, sure, the safety aspect. |
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DarbyUSMC (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
80. The teacher has been there since 1979 --- before many here were born. |
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