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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 03:49 PM
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No nuclear halt, warns Khamenei
Iran's supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, has said his country will press ahead with its nuclear programme.

He was speaking a day before Tehran is scheduled to give its formal answer to an international proposal of incentives for Iran to halt uranium enrichment.

Iran had "made its own decision" and would "continue its path", state television quoted the leader as saying.
...
Separately, the deputy head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organisation, Mohammad Saeedi, said on Monday that suspension of uranium enrichment was "no longer possible", according to the Iranian Fars news agency.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5271344.st...


From the official Iranian news agency:

Elsewhere in his speech, the Supreme Leader said that the arrogant powers led by the US are afraid of progress of the Islamic nations and they are exerting maximum pressure on the Muslim states to stop their progress in the field of science and technology.

"Though they well know that Iran does not want to produce nuclear arms, they are exerting maximum pressure to stop progress of an Islamic state," the Supreme Leader said.

"Iran has taken its own decision thanks to experience and achievements it has made over the past 27 years and by relying upon God it will proceed with its nuclear program to produce nuclear energy," the Supreme Leader said.

http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/060821057917033...
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 03:52 PM
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1. Wait a minute, I thought Iran had a President.
Supreme Leader sounds like a bullshit title. Something Bush would like to be called. :eyes:

Hey Iran, you dumbasses need to cut the shit about eradicating Israel. Oh yeah, and the Holocaust DID happen stop being dumbfucks. Just call the German Chancellor if you need a history lesson. :eyes:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:41 PM
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14. No, "Supreme Leader" is the title Khomeini had
and Khamenei was nominated as his successor. See, for instance, http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/iran/structu... . He is selected by the Council of Experts, who are themselves elecetd by popular vote (hey, it beats being selected by a Supreme Court that was appointed by earlier presidents ... :evilgrin: ) Khamenei has the ultimate power in the country, so what he says about nuclear technology is more important than what Ahmadinejad says. Ahmadinejad is more involved in the day to day political running of the country.

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 03:52 PM
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2. Can not allow India, Pakistan and Israel to have nucs and say No to Iran
Just IMHO..
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 06:46 PM
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23. For whatever it's worth,
and personally, I do think it counts, India, Pakistan and Israel are not signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Pact. Iran is.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:30 PM
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25. Good thing Iran is part of NPT....therefore they have nothing to hide
and the International Atomic Energy Agency has said nothing of sort that Iran has violated the NPT agreement. true or not?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:05 PM
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3. Isn't it interesting how Americans consider Arabs to be backwards
Yet every time Arab countries try to advance technologically, America is first in line to prevent it?
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:09 PM
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4. ARE YOU SERIOUS????
We aren't trying to prevent them from building supercomputers here, or get satellite dishes. This is a f-ed up country with an anti-semite Holocaust denier in power trying to get nukes. Bush trying to prevent them from becoming nuclear is one of the few things he is doing I agree with. Israel should also be disarmed.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:25 PM
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6. What proof do you have Iran is developing nuclear bomb?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:31 PM
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8. According to the U.N., there is no proof
The U.N. has thoroughly inspected Iran's nuclear program and has found no evidence of anything relating to a weapons program.

This is something most people ignore or refuse to acknowledge.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:47 PM
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16. Indeed
However, as always, there those that has hard time differentiating truth from propaganda.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 06:27 PM
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21. Yeah...
A country sitting on one of the world's largest energy sources really needs nuclear power to keep their electricity running. I think you're the one buying the propaganda from Iran.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 06:38 PM
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22. Canada, Mexico, Finland, and Russia have the most world energy
reserved in the world...including the US....do you know what they all have in common? they all have nuclear energy power plants. Go figure!
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 12:04 PM
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29. The oil won't last forever
probably no more than 3 or 4 decades. They have a growing population, of which the majority is under 30. I have no idea whether they really want a bomb or not, but pursuing nuclear power makes sense (although I'd prefer they went solar).
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 12:36 PM
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30. They've been offered numerous more cost efficient alternatives
to nuclear energy. They refuse. For SOME strange reason they insist on developing nuclear energy.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:12 AM
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32. What country has Iran invaded lately?
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Andrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 07:09 AM
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31. Proof, schmoof
Some people just make up their minds based on their personal opinions, proof be damned. :eyes:
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:33 PM
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9. You're dead wrong
The U.N. has inspected Iran's program and found no evidence of a weapons program.

Now if you have evidence the U.N. doesn't, I'm sure they'd like to hear from you.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:37 PM
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13. "UN tells Iran to suspend nuclear activities"
UN tells Iran to suspend nuclear activities

PM - Tuesday, 1 August , 2006 18:35:12
Reporter: David Mark
MARK COLVIN: The United Nations Security Council has ordered Iran to suspend its nuclear industry by the end of the month but stopped short of imposing sanctions.

The council voted 14 to one in favour of the resolution calling on Iran to stop its uranium enrichment and reprocessing activities...


http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2006/s1703152.htm
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 05:06 PM
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17. The article you note does not say Iran is developing nuclear bomb
The non-binding UN resolution the article notes is a way for the council to prevent conflict between Iran and the US, and has nothing to do with finding from the IAEA. The IAEA never said Iran is in violation of the NPT agreement, hence, this current call on Iran to suspend enriching uranium is non-binding under the NPT agreements.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 05:07 PM
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19. I guess he missed that
And so it goes...
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:26 PM
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24. Of course the IAEA never said Iran was developing a nuclear bomb
Edited on Mon Aug-21-06 07:28 PM by brentspeak
How can they when Iran won't allow IAEA inspectors make any kind of determination in the first place?

Associated Press
Iran Denies Inspectors Access to Site
By GEORGE JAHN and NASSER KARIMI , 08.21.2006, 05:31 PM

Iran's unprecedented refusal to allow access to its underground facility at Natanz could seriously hamper U.N. attempts to ensure Tehran is not trying to produce nuclear weapons, and might violate the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, diplomats and U.N. officials told The Associated Press.
(snip)
They said Iran denied entry visas to two IAEA inspectors in the last few weeks after doing the same earlier this summer for Chris Charlier, the expert heading the U.N. agency's team to Tehran. Additionally, they said, other inspectors were given only single-entry visas during their visits to Iran last week, instead of the customary multiple-entry permits.


http://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/feeds/ap/2006/08/21...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:35 PM
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 05:06 PM
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18. Nothing about weapons production
Which is what the poster claimed Iran was working on.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 09:40 PM
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27. why don't we all disarm? n/t
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:18 PM
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5. Duly Noted by Some n/t
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:29 PM
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7. Technically, they're Persians...
n/t
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:34 PM
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10. Change it to Middle Eastern countries then
The results are the same.

With the exception of Israel.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:34 PM
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11. Most of Europe also wants Iran to quit its nuclear program
Do the Europeans also consider the Iranians (who are Persians, not Arabs) to be backwards?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:36 PM
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12. I could have included Europeans in the statement as well
Just look at how Europeans are treating immigrants from the Middle East.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:44 PM
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15. Yes, they do.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 06:24 PM
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20. There is NO way that Iran will ever be a threat to the Continental USA
.
.
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Iran just watched it's emasculated neighbour (and is still watching) get invaded and occupied by them "freedom fighters" from the USA

They ain't gonna even try to be passive, disarm etc., like Saddam did

Saddam's effort to cooperate during them 10 years of sanctions only lead to his demise.

OH yeah, Saddam cheated by selling oil under the table and so on -

But the quality of life for most Iraqis WAS BETTER BEFORE THE AMERICANS INVADED

It's that simple in my wee Canuk brain

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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 10:15 PM
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28. But Iran is seen to be a threat to Israel
and since US foreign policy is basically the same as that of Israel....well, I'll let you draw the obvious, and tragic, and absurd conclusion.
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