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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:48 PM
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CNN: Opposition to Iraq War at all time high
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/21/iraq.poll/index....

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Opposition among Americans to the war in Iraq has reached a new high, with only about a third of respondents saying they favor it, according to a poll released Monday.

Just 35 percent of 1,033 adults polled say they favor the war in Iraq; 61 percent say they oppose it -- the highest opposition noted in any CNN poll since the conflict began more than three years ago.

A bare majority (51 percent) say they see Bush as a strong leader, but on most other attributes he gets negative marks. (Complete poll results -- PDF)

Most Americans (54 percent) don't consider him honest, most (54 percent) don't think he shares their values and most (58 percent) say he does not inspire confidence.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:49 PM
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1. FREEDOM IS ON THE MARCH
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:51 PM
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2. These are the kind of numbers that don't turn around
Approval ratings can flip and flop, because approval is a very subjective term that can mean as little as "if he was on fire, I WOULD cross the road to piss on him." The others are pretty specific and generally mean the person's mind is made up.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 09:06 AM
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20. The percentage of people in favor of this war...
...is very close to the percentage of people who still support Bush. These are the hardcore people who have their heads up their asses and will never see the truth. I'd expect these percentages to remain relatively static in the near future.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:51 PM
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3. None of that shit makes any sense. 51% say he's a strong leader but
54% day he's not honest? WFT is that? 58% say he doesn't inspire confidence but 51% think he's a strong leader? How can you be a strong leader and a liar that no one most people don't have any faith in??????

Boggles the mind.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:55 PM
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5. I thought that was odd too
Makes me wonder how they phrased the question. "Strong" as in "good" or "strong" as in "stubborn/head like a rock"? If there was any "hazy phrasing", some folks opposed to him could have ended up saying they thought he was "resolute" and then it got translated into "strong".

I feel like I'm reaching, though. I'd prefer to say people are indecisive and stupid.

Bitter? Who, me?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:58 PM
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12. strong means doing things by force and ignoring any opposition.
which defines the bush method. bullying. being a bully is strong... think "strongarm tactics".
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 11:36 AM
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24. Ooooohhhh, wait, I thought you said "strong LIAR."
Dang, guess I answered that survey question wrong. :shrug:
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 11:58 AM
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25. cognitive dissonance. nt
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 12:05 PM
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26. Yeah, like I remarked
in another thread:

"58 % say he does not inspire confidence, but 51% say he's a strong leader?? How can a strong leader not be expected to inspire confidence? I would've thought that would be the top criteria for strong leadership...Go figure!" Who the hell are the goobers responding to the poll with such glaring inconsistencies & logical lapses?
SG
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:52 PM
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Link to the complete poll
There is some good news here, but the 42% approval is a little high for my taste.

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/08/21/rel20b.pdf
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 04:52 PM
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4. Well, good morning. Where y'all been?
And yet there's that damned lemming-like third of the country that would follow Weenieboy off a cliff (which, technically, they are).
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 10:16 AM
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21. What's a lemming?


We're always talking about them, thought it would be nice to put a face to it. Cute little rodent.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 10:44 AM
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22. Too cute to be associated with W followers! n/t
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 05:11 PM
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6. but CNN trumpets the 'cut and run' talking pt every time one of meely mout
mouth Mehlman's minions repeats it.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 05:44 PM
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7. And 42% approve of Bush???? Cheney has a gun to pollster's head?
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 01:38 PM
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30. Yes, Thank You
Anything higher than 29% is bullshit, if you ask me. The man is only popular with the brain-dead.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 06:50 PM
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8. 51% see him as a "strong leader"?
:eyes:

I don't believe it's that high. More likely that number is at about 40%.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 06:53 PM
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9. that must be that 'mandate'
he was so proud of.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 06:56 PM
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10. The biggest fucking blunder of all time
Good to see that most people are finally getting it. Of course, the numbers were even more in Junior's favor when he made the decision to pull the trigger so I can't say I'm impressed with the wisdom of the American people.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:55 PM
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11. ANY approval of Bush and his gangsters is too much . . .
.
.
.

But I's jus a Canuk

And I may be a wee bit biased

I got this silly idea that leaders should have honesty and integrity

Silly me

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:51 PM
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15. Intelligence or even basic common sense would be nice.
Living in a world of delusions is what has brought us to this pass.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:39 AM
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17. "Common" sense is a misnomer - cuz it AIN'T common at all,
.
.
.

(sigh)

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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 12:13 PM
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27. I agree wholeheartedly.
Edited on Tue Aug-22-06 12:25 PM by emmadoggy
The fact that these numbers are still THIS high, boggles my mind. :wtf: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 01:59 PM
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32. Sad to say, propaganda works - and the PNACers are experts at that
.
.
.

Bush 1 learned that from Hitler/GrandPappy Bush

Google Prescott Bush -

That's GeeDub's granpappy

He was dealing with the Nazi's over half a century ago - even AFTER WW2

Gee

What a surprise . . .

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:04 PM
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13. Yeah, lieberman! Put that in your
crack pipe and smoke it. :+
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:50 PM
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14. What is unbelievable is the number of people who still connect
Edited on Mon Aug-21-06 08:51 PM by hedgehog
the invasion if Iraq to 9/11. I heard someone being interviewed today who said his only objection was that we should have gone after Iran first! What if Bush had treated 9/11 as a criminal matter instead of dragging us into war in Afghanistan and Iraq?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 09:01 PM
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16. I'm surprised the polls don't show %100 across the board
Best damn president and administration this country deserves, 'eh?
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 01:41 PM
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31. The WH
could continually manufacture polls showing Bush's approval rating at 100% and the media would be incredulous at what a strong and popular leader we have, and would criticize as unpatriotic and "liberal" any question as to the polls' authenticity. Kind of like those "erroneous" exit polls in Ohio.
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missTheBigDog Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 08:01 AM
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18. Over 50% think he is a <cough> strong leader?
Edited on Tue Aug-22-06 08:01 AM by missTheBigDog
What is wrong with some of the people in this country? On the bright side, at least more people are starting to see the light.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 08:15 AM
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19. Maybe they mean "strong" like Limburger cheese
You don't have to like it to know it stinks to high heaven.
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RonHack Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 10:45 AM
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23. What blows my mind.....
...is that our (ewwww)... THE Chimp-in-Chump is not only "not following the polls" (as he has readily done in the past, when he wants Congress to follow him blindly), and leaving it up to the next president (so the failure isn't smeared on him), but the fact is that most of America is seeing something he can't see even with strong eyeglasses: that Iraq is a complete and total failure.

He's really asking for an impeachment, he really is.....
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 12:33 PM
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28. we just need to get out of Iraq now.
We need to stop killing innocent people there in Iraq. Imagine how the healthcare in this country would be if we could just funnel all that "war machine" money to it. <sigh> maybe after * is out of office.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 01:03 PM
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29. strutting and posing and talkin' tuff

= 'strong leadership ' w/ those w/ schoolyard mentalities.

they don't mind being lied to; they figure if a ' strong leader ' does it, it must be right and for their own good.

I am married to one of *'s base and his eyes glaze over and the shutters come down every time i bring u one of *'s lies. You can see physical evidence of the defenses coming up! It's like he's defending one of his kids.
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