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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:45 PM
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Ceasefire 'a setback for Iran and Syria', says US

http://breaking.examiner.ie/2006/08/14/story272174.html

Ceasefire 'a setback for Iran and Syria', says US

The UN-declared ceasefire in Lebanon, if fully implemented, will be a strategic setback for Iran and Syria, the US State Department said today.

The move will strengthen democracy in Lebanon and stabilises the border with Israel, according to spokesman Sean McCormack.

You will not have Hezbollah roaming freely in the south of Lebanon, he said. Iran and Syria will not have had the ability to rearm Hezbollah.

The militia, designated as a terrorist group by the department, has fought for 34 days with Israel. The guerrillas used rockets and other weapons provided by Iran and, according to US and Israeli officials, channelled through Syria.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:46 PM
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1. I thought it was a setback for the Neocons and "rapture ready"
fundie crazies...
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BrokenBeyondRepair Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:30 PM
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16. this will be sold as motive for the next major attack on us,uk
which will happen before the elections..

and will be pretext for the already planned invasion of iran;

the script has been penned..


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:46 PM
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2. They're kidding?
Right?

Pst, don't tell Bush. Hezbollah won.

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:49 PM
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5. What else can Bushler and friends do at this point?
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sugapablo Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:08 PM
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17. Yes...
Hezbollah won.

Israel lost. Lebanon lost. The human race as a whole lost.


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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:47 PM
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3. advice to spokesman Sean McCormack ... DRUGS ARE BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
make you say stupid stuff
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:19 PM
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15. Yes sean smokes crack
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:48 PM
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4. Then why didn't they support one from the beginning?
n/t
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:50 PM
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6. There you go again with that 'logic' and 'facts'
Everyone knows that logic has a liberal bias!
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:51 PM
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8. Touche. 'Nuff said (eom)
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:50 PM
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7. Opposite day, again! n/t
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:52 PM
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9. And we're winning in Iraq (eom)
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 03:00 PM
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10. they're spinning, spinning, spinning....
It will undoubtedly make America safer, too. :rofl:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 03:01 PM
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11. But what if it's not a sustainable ceasefire?
I remember that was the Biggest Danger Of All just 10 days ago. Dr. Rice, who's so smart and savvy and brilliant, said so herself.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 03:40 PM
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12. Sean step back from the bong..... you have had too many hits..
:rofl:

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 03:48 PM
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13. Too Funny! Clearly Iran and Syria scored big here because they didn't
go for the bait and respond to the goading by Israel and the US.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:19 PM
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20. Ur right - Iran and Syria were the wise ones here, not the USA or Israel
.
.
.

And as the USA's invasions into Afghanistan and Iraq have only made the recruiting and support for Al-Qua-ida increase,

So have they done for the popularity and support for Hizbolla

The USA is INCREASING the danger from radical groups,

and maybe they are not even that radical in reality . .

they want to live a different value system from the USA

but the USA is forcing the PNACers rules down their throats . .

won't work

USA has only succeeded in fostering more mistrust, hatred and fear since GWB became the "Commander in Chief"

TWICE!!

Shame on y'all

(sigh)

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:07 PM
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14. And this couldn't have been done 2-3 weeks ago?
They let this go for a few weeks before getting a cease fire that would have gained the same thing.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:44 PM
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18. Eh. Diplomats.
They say things as though they were meaningful, and then commit the heinous error of thinking what they say necessarily reflect the truth.

If ever the notion of a "socially constructed reality" were to actually be the case, it would be at a meeting of diplomats.

The ceasefire, if fully implemented, would be a setback for Iran and Syria. More for Syria than for Iran; it can accomplish its goals just as well, since it has a lot of them.

But the ceasefire will not be fully implemented; the dipomat's carefully crafted reality doesn't conform to the universe as it treats us. No Frenchman is going to want to die to disarm Hezb, and if the French commander orders Frenchmen to engage Hezb militarily his days will be numbered.

The Lebanese Army's not about to do the job.

Hezb will stay armed, and restock with new and improved munitions.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:57 PM
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19. why use fighting words during negotiations?
I would think they would not want to inflame them but negotiate in the spirit of peace. Why would they say that?
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