Lieberman compares terrorists to Nazis, calls for unity

[sabra]

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/state/hc-101...

Lieberman compares terrorists to Nazis, calls for unity

WATERBURY, Conn. -- U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman, in his first campaign appearance since launching his independent re-election campaign, likened terrorists to Nazis and called for Republicans and Democrats to work together to combat them.

"We are at war with a brutal enemy," said Lieberman during a campaign stop Thursday at a Waterbury pizza joint. "How the heck can we be in a battle in which we are fighting as Democrats and Republicans against each other when these terrorists certainly don't distinguish based on party affiliation? They want to kill any and all of us."

"I'm worried that too many people, both in politics and out, don't appreciate the seriousness of the threat to American security and the evil of the enemy that faces us - more evil or as evil as Nazism and probably more dangerous that the Soviet Communists we fought during the long Cold War," Lieberman said.


...

"If we just pick up like Ned Lamont wants us to do, get out by a date certain, it will be taken as a tremendous victory by the same people who wanted to blow up these planes in this plot hatched in England. It will strengthen them and they will strike again."

[niyad]

1. your 15 minutes are up, joe. shut up and go home.

[marmar]

29. Amen...

I wondered how long it would be before Krazy Uncle Joe tried to cash in on the bomb plot.

[saigon68]

77. Joementum better get out a mirror

He has no monopoly on Sanctity

[Buns_of_Fire]

80. The look... Of love... Is on... Your face...

[mikeytherat]

82. Excellent!

The look of love is on your face
though my ass-kissing might have just cost me the race,
I can hardly wait to hold you, feel my arms around you...

mikey_the_rat

[saigon68]

85. LOL

[McKinneyIsAHero]

32. i second that nt

[KamaAina]

2. Godwin's Law says: Lamont wins!

"In an argument, the first person to invoke the Nazis or Nazism automatically loses the argument."

[zonkers]

66. Thanks. Did not know about Godwin. Just wikied him. Interesting guy.

[mike_c]

3. Lieberman has gone completely over to the dark side....

War on terror! War on terror! War on terror!

[movonne]

11. Well after all he is a repug...what do you expect...the thing is I don't

think he went over to the dark side, he was already there....

[Whoa_Nelly]

4. STFU, Joe!

Wait...DO keep spouting off! The more BS you scream, the less likely you will ever have a future in politics again

[aquart]

5. Nazis, huh? Those Republican talking points go straight to Joe.

Big surprise.

[KansDem]

14. I've seen "Islamic fascist" several times during the past couple days...

...and now "Nazi."

I guess these are the new GOP "talking points," sorta like calling people you don't like "commie" during the 1950s and 1960s. Hell, the neo-Con fascists still call anyone to the left of them "commies."

I smell desperation in this new Repub strategy...

[megatherium]

30. Interesting history of the term "Islamofascist" on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism

[MysteryToMyself]

92. Anyone can write in Wilkepidia

It isn't mom and dad's encylopedia.

That article from the link seemed like it was written by a lot of different people. The bottom contradicts the top.

Notice the edit button. I could have written on there, I think.

It is interesting though.

[Avalux]

6. JoeLie's been talking to Cheney.

That last bit sounds almost word for word like what Cheney said. What the fuck does getting out of Iraq have to do with the foiled terrorist plot? ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

[Virginia Dare]

9. Rove called him Monday night...

now we know how the conversation went.

[Tempest]

49. Reports say Rove called him after the primary

And told Lieberman that he has the WH's support in his independent run.

[zreosumgame]

89. "Still on your knees, Joe?"

"yes Master!"

[rodeodance]

7. cheney , chertoff, bush, now Leiberman--WAR on terror: (see below)

Thu Aug-10-06 11:03 AM
Original message
Bush says Foiled Plane Plot "Stark Reminder" that United States

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/WBT005761.htm

10 Aug 2006 15:54:51 GMT
Source: Reuters

BUSH SAYS FOILED PLANE PLOT "STARK REMINDER" THAT UNITED STATES "AT WAR WITH ISLAMIC FASCISTS"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060810/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

The president laid the blame for the would-be attack squarely on al-Qaida-type terrorism.

........"This nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation," he said, his remarks carried live on television.

Bush spoke for just two minutes and took no questions. His brief message, aside from focusing on the "stark reminder" of the U.S.-led global war on terror, mostly appeared to be a promise that his administration was working to keep citizens safe.

"The American people need to know we live in a dangerous world, but our government will do everything we can to protect our people from those dangers," the president said...........


Thu Aug-10-06 07:34 AM
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Chertoff: Plot 'suggestive' of al-Qaida
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_terror_plot ;_ylt=As_OkNUoQAMSE7VUf147kGqs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Chertoff: Plot 'suggestive' of al-Qaida

By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 6 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The terror plot disrupted in London is "suggestive of an al-Qaida plot," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Thursday as the government issued its highest terrorism alert ever for commercial flights from Britain to the United States.


"There is currently no indication of any plotting in the United States," Chertoff said, but the government raised the threat level for all domestic and international flights.

Chertoff said officials cannot assume that the terror operation in Britain had been completely thwarted.

The U.S. government banned all liquids and gels from flights, including toothpaste, makeup, suntan lotion. Baby formula and medicines were exempted.

Chertoff said the alleged plot "was sophisticated, it had a lot of members and it was international in scope." He added, however, that "because the investigation is still underway we cannot yet form a definitive conclusion.".........


Wed Aug-09-06 10:55 PM
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Cheney suggests that Lieberman lost might encourage "Al Qaeda" types
Folks, I just can' t belive how these people make this crap up? You think there are terrorists out there making tentative plans on the basis of who wins the Connecticut democratic primary.

And any voter out there that buys that one has to be mentalty hampered that I question whether they're capable of putting their shoes on the correct feet?

Http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/10/washington/10senate.h... ...


Thu Aug-10-06 12:36 PM
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Chertoff said it was in "final stages." This "expert" on CNN just said
that he was told by a security person in UK that the terrorists were still trying to figure out which chemicals they wanted to use, whether to premix them, mix them on board, etc. That doesn't sound like "final stages" to me. To me, Final Stages means it has been figured out and rehearsed by the ones chosen to do it and reservations are being made to get everyone on the right flights to be in the air over the Atlantic or another ocean at the same time.

[matcom]

8. Waterbury Pizza Joint?

what were there like 2 people in there?

[JerseygirlCT]

13. What -- pizza? In Waterbury?

I think there's a law in the area that says there needs to be a pizza joint every 50 feet or so, isn't there?

[calico1]

16. Hey, now!

I adopted a dog that was from Waterbury originally. Although when I asked her previous owners what the hell was going in with Waterbury they really couldn't give me a good answer!

[JerseygirlCT]

19. I've never really "gotten" Waterbury.

I think you need to live there a few generations for it all to make sense, lol!

But I know lots and lots of very nice people from there, I must say.

[calico1]

20. The couple that I adopted my dog from

were very nice. But when I asked them "hey, what the hell is going on in
Waterbury?" (this was soon after Giordano) they both just rolled their eyes and groaned at the same time! It was so funny!!!

[musette_sf]

24. wasn't it called "apizza" in Waterbury

way back when? like in the 50s?

[JerseygirlCT]

61. Maybe -- I"m a fairly recent transplant by CT standards

only year just about 20 years now.

[musette_sf]

69. ah yes, I do remember it correctly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apizza

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=apizz...

[DinahMoeHum]

10. Joe, get out of our sight, you miserable old pansy.

[theHandpuppet]

18. Pansy?

I'm sorry, but I find the use of that word highly objectionable, an anti-gay slur.

[CTLawGuy]

76. yes,

he hates gays, you've found him out...

actually a pansy is a flower.

[theHandpuppet]

78. I don't want to get into a yelling match here, BUT...

I will politely inform y'all again that I find that calling someone a "miserable old pansy" objectionable as it is a common anti-gay slur.

[0007]

94. Children love you they seem to know, you bring roses out of the snow

The whole world says HELLO everywhere you go.

[JerseygirlCT]

12. There it is, folks. That's the campaign theme right there

And he'll play well in places like Waterbury and the Naugatuck valley with it.

These are the old "Reagan Democrats" and they like a simplistic approach and I think there's an urge there to just stomp on all these big mean terrorists who are out to get us. Never mind the facts.

It's going to be very, very ugly.

Some strategist (I'm not) needs to figure out how Lamont avoids being pushed into playing defense on this one. Doing that is death to his campaign.

[AlCzervik]

15. "Now watch this drive!"

[FreeStateDemocrat]

17. NYT: Lieberman Seizes on Terror Arrests to Attack Rival

Lieberman Seizes on Terror Arrests to Attack Rival
By PATRICK HEALY and JENNIFER MEDINA 2:08 PM ET
Ned Lamont’s goals for ending the war in Iraq would constitute a “victory” for the extremists, he said. http://www.nytimes.com /

I didn't bother to go to the article, just more puke talking points from a complete Republican whore. Rove must be running his campaign now and I wouldn't trust this turn-coat to caucus with Dems if he does trick the Ct. independents to go along with his repuke constituency in returning him to congress. This should be a fight to the death to defeat this ass-wipe.

[coalition_unwilling]

21. In a note of historic irony, the Nazis always called for "unity" in the

German nation in combatting forces of JudeoBolshevism, just like Lieberbush is calling for now.

So who's the real Nazi?

[GeorgeGist]

22. The evil is you...

Joe.

[fooj]

23. Joe is the TERRORIST.

What an asshole.

[msmcghee]

25. Doesn't anyone here see what's happening?

These are exactly the words that Ned Lamont should be saying - not the guy that we just fired after many years of pretty damned good loyalty.

It's also a sentiment that some here at DU have tried to express but have been shouted down, ridiculed and sometimes banned. We hate Bush so much we're slitting our own throats.

We can hate Bush and terrorism too. If we don't figure that out soon our chances in Nov and 2008 could be very slim. This is how they're going to beat us down - that we'd rather hate Bush than defend America. Please don't let them.

[ramapo]

26. What crap

Did he forget that the Soviet Communists had a couple million man army and enough nukes to obliterate the world?

Did he forget that the Nazis were very efficient at exterminating masses of people?

Terrorists come in all flavors. Having an army in the midst of a civil war does little good in finding this new enemy.

To suggest that today's terrorism threat is anywhere close to the dangers that this country has faced in the past is delusional rhetoric expressed for political gain.

[toopers]

27. Unfortunately, he is correct . . .

n/t

[Tempest]

50. How so?

Exactly how is Lieberman correct in what he said?

[toopers]

93. Just like the Nazis wanted to kill all the jews . . .

there are several leaders that have expressed the same desire.

[RCinBrooklyn]

28. FUCK YOU JOE! The Democrats want unity too. Oh well. Too bad for you!

[McKinneyIsAHero]

31. Any fear, any violence all over the world will be Ned Lamont's fault

If he seriously believes that he should be locked up. I'm not even kidding. He's not a sane man.

If he's lying and fearmongering (most likely he is), voters should give him another sound trouncing in November for it.

[kskiska]

33. NYT: Lieberman Seizes on Terror Arrests to Attack Rival

Senator Joseph I. Lieberman seized on the terror arrests in Britain today to attack his Democratic rival, Ned Lamont, saying that Mr. Lamont’s goals for ending the war in Iraq would constitute a “victory” for extremists, including those accused of plotting to blow up airliners traveling between Britain and the United States.

“If we just pick up like Ned Lamont wants us to do, get out by a date certain, it will be taken as a tremendous victory by the same people who wanted to blow up these planes in this plot hatched in England,” Mr. Lieberman said at a campaign event at lunchtime in Waterbury, Conn. “It will strengthen them and they will strike again.”

(snip)

In a telephone interview from his vacation home in Maine, Mr. Lamont said he was disappointed with the personal tone Mr. Lieberman’s remarks, and questioned the connection between the Iraq war and the new terrorist plot. He also continued his strategy of trying to link Mr. Lieberman’s views with those of the Bush administration, whose approach the senator has tended to support in the fight against terrorism.

“Wow,” Mr. Lamont said, after asking a reporter to read Mr. Lieberman’s remark about him. “That comment sounds an awful lot like Vice President Cheney’s comment on Wednesday. Both of them believe our invasion of Iraq has a lot to do with 9/11. That’s a false premise.”

more…
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/10/washington/10cnd-lieb...

[Monkeyman]

34. joe forgot our country is less safe 9-11 Commission report

[livetohike]

35. Too bad Joe wasn't this vicious back in 2000

against Cheney.

[saigon68]

75. He was on his knees to Cheney

screw both of these ass holes

Especially the Traitor Joementum Limpmann

[kurth]

36. Right On Cue

What a tool.

[truthisfreedom]

37. isn't this attack a sign that the administrations policies are failing?

i mean, if we WEREN'T in Iraq, would this attack have happened, with all of NSA crap and long lines in security at the airport and such?

why don't our people "seize" on terror attacks to blame rethugs for their wrong-headed approach? they're obviously the ones to blame for this new round of hate for the West.

[BattyDem]

42. Of course it is!

And considering the fact that it was the Brits who foiled the plot and NOT the GOP-controlled, US Government, I don't know why Lieberman and the Repugs are acting so smug. They haven't done a fucking thing to make us safer or prevent terrorist attacks! They couldn't even protect Americans from a hurricane when they had five days warning!!!

[AnneD]

53. Funny thing...

My first thoughts when all those terra alerts were going out and the admin was all puffed up with self importance (and the media was hanging on their every word)was....hey the Brits cracked this case, not these BOZOS. Seems that part of the story gets less play.

[Name removed]

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[mtnester]

38. Hey Joe, what committee do YOU sit on?

I mean really

[liberalmuse]

39. That piece of shit!

What a graceless, self-righteous, pompous, duplicitous, back-stabbing, simpering loser! I hope he falls down the long, dark abyss of political oblivion.

[wellst0nev0ter]

40. Of Course

Look Joe, save everybody the trouble and run as a repuke wingnut. Pretty please?

[MysteryToMyself]

41. Lamont asks good questions

They didn't have terrorists in Iraq until the Bush war on Iraq. Now they are all over the place according to our leaders.

It is one of those chicken and egg thingys. Do we create terrorists by invading countries? Who was in Iraq first? Bush/military or the terrorists?

[truthisfreedom]

43. neo-con policies CREATE terrorism, and that's what they WANT. they want

to rule by FEAR and they need TERROR to do it.

[CountAllVotes]

44. loserman go home

You LOST the election! GET REAL and GET OVER IT!!!

[Trillo]

45. Okay, who has the picture of the baby wailing and screaming?

Found it posted by rpgamerd00d


Source thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Hope rpgamerd00d doesn't mind my repostingit

[endarkenment]

46. I am shocked. nt.

[Miss Chybil]

48. Yep, those guys waited for Lamont to win before they turned into

terrorist plotters. Day before yesteday, they were just auto mechanics. It's amazing what a Democratic primary in Connecticut can do to people! God forbid, more Democrats win! The terrorists will start showing up in Iraq and Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and Iran and Lebanon and Syria and...

[MysteryToMyself]

90. We were mostly silent the first two years

and the terrorism became worse by the day. The war lovers are looking for others to blame their failures on.

To decide on a tenative date to pull out, doesn't mean we have to tell the world.

The only ones who need to know are the Iraqi leaders and our leaders.

[Taboo]

47. I have to agree with Joe

I'm not sure Lamont (is that a French name?) has the cajones to handle real terror. As much as I despise this war and the circumstances behind it, we are in it and we need people in charge who are not afraid to go the distance.

[coyote]

51. oh man!

ARE YOU SERIES!??111

I am thinking the grimreaper shall come to you soon.

[xchrom]

52. you sure you despise this war?

or are you having a very, very different reaction.

something like this:

[flyarm]

56. nonsense!! what has joe done to make us safe?? go to iraq??

thats a joke right???

fly

[katinmn]

58. Terrah! Terrah! Terrah! Boo!

Let's see, Bush, Lieb, Mehlman and all Repukes everwhere are cashing in on the alleged terror plot. Manna from heaven. Or was it a gift they baked for themselves? But I digress. The most important questions should be:

What have the Liebermans and Bushes of the world done these past five years to make us safer?

Port security? Nope. Less secure. In fact, our ports and even inspections are managed by Middle East countries!
Homeland Security Department? You're doing a GREAT job, Chertoff!
Patriot Act? Innocent Quakers being harrassed and jailed.

Oops! What about the grandaddy of terror, the self-proclaimed instigator of 9/11, Osama Bin Laden? They don't think about him much. He's probably vacationing in Aspen when not in the hole with Cheney.

Please don't buy the Red Alert bullshit.

[Cha]

67. Lamont is the Democratic primary

Winner and he is our candidate and, of course, he has the Cajones to handle anything. joeloserman lost and he is NOT our candidate.

Joe is full of shit.

[Amonester]

70. A name is just that: a name.

And a racist comment is just that: a racist.

[Amonester]

71. Who do you think is afraid to go the distance?

Wes Clark? John Kerry? John Murtha?

or...

Draft dodger Cheney? AWOL Bush? (And perhaps...you?)

[saigon68]

74. Au Revoir Enjoy your stay on this thread

[Bridget Burke]

81. The word is "cojones".....

And anti-French sentiment is so 2001. Get yourself some fresh Right Wing Talking Points.

[AX10]

54. I will not vote for Lieberman under any circumstances.

[MikeyJones]

55. The last dying breath of a once great senator.....

you were alright before you lost your mind Joe. Do us all and yourself a favor and hit the golf course and enjoy retirement.

[against all enemies]

57. Joe go home. The Democrats have tossed you.

Neocons, either Republican or Democrat are not wanted representing Connecticut anymore.

[katinmn]

59. Funny, he lost, but the corporate beltway media keeps holding

him up as some type of statesman. WTF? He is a man without a constituency for God's sake. Not even a Third Party candidate but a Party of One. The media is so warped.

Why aren't they interviewing Dems who actually won their primaries?

[anotherdrew]

68. expect it to continue, they'll give him millions in free ads from now on

running 'news' storyies about what he "says" as if that were NEWS. what a joke, the corporate whore media can go straight to hell along with the holy joe

[JackDragna]

60. This whole commie/fascist thing..

..is the new meme for the Republicans. Even Bush is using it. Hey, guys, little hint for you: the people we're fighting are mad at us because WE'RE the one who went over and messed with their governments, not the other way around. Remember the government in Iran we helped overthrow? In Iraq? In Pakistan? In Afghanistan? How about how we prop up the amazingly brutal regime in Saudi Arabia?

[Taoschick]

87. Okay...

How about how we prop up the amazingly brutal regime in Saudi Arabia?

I am by no means an expert but I have a different view that comes from actually living in the KSA for 6 years.

Saudi "insurgents" or "terrorists" or whatever are mad at us for supporting the royal family because they believe the King is far too lax. If anything, Saudi would be an even more brutal and repressive place if the clerics and their supporters had their way. The terrorists aren't killing people to gain freedom or democracy, they're terrorizing the local populations to prevent freedom and democracy.

If we hadn't been busy propping up ME governents over the last 4 decades they might have moderated themselves over the years but it wouldn't have prevented religious nutcases from the stepping on the path they're on today.

[tanyev]

62. So are they Nazis, or Islamic Fascists?

I don't think they can be both.

[stepnw1f]

63. Joe Talks Like a Nazi!

and acts like one too.... and Bush accuses a terrorist of being a "fascist". Can you believe this shit?!

[ihelpu2see]

64. A day or two before the primary Joe called Lamont supporters

a ..."small group of vocal Ideologues" and in the next breath he called the "terrorists" in Iraq and the Hezbollah in Lebanon the same thing Ideologues.

so are we Lamont supporters terrorists Joe???

[Zero Division]

72. "Probably more dangerous than the Soviet Communists...":

Lieberman is sounding more delusional and hysterical by the day. Unless I somehow missed the news that Islamic militants suddenly and miraculously acquired one of the world's largest nuclear arsenals. I suppose this is another instance of the belief that intent to kill on a massive scale is the same as the ability to kill on a massive scale.

[Andrushka]

73. Lieberwho?

eom

[ckramer]

79. The best strategy for Lieberman at this point is to declear that

himself is God.

He will get all the votes from believers.

[ckramer]

83. If Lieberman calls himself Nazi now he could get back to the Senate

in Novermber guanranteed!

[Zorra]

84. Dear Traitor Joe: Iraq had nothing to do with the attack on 9/11.

If you want to fight terrorists, take the fight to the terrorists.

Don't use up all your country's energy and resources chasing windmills, like we are doing in Iraq.

And Joe? Just where is that rascal bin Laden, anyway?

You sound just as foolish as a republican.

[goforit]

86. Lieberman's support for the #1 terrorist Bush/Cheney makes him a nazi.

[Name removed]

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[Vinca]

91. Party unity might be a good first step. nt