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BBC: 'Plot to blow up planes' foiled (new carry-on restrictions)

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BBC: 'Plot to blow up planes' foiled (new carry-on restrictions)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm

A major terrorist plot to blow up planes in mid-flight has been disrupted, Scotland Yard has said.

It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled on aircraft in hand luggage, with flights from the UK to the US being targeted.

... Passengers will not be allowed to take any hand luggage on to any flights in the UK, the department said.

Only the barest essentials - including passports and wallets - will be allowed to be carried on board in transparent plastic bags.

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   wow, my husband took a BA flight on Sunday and wasn't allowed to take his  maddezmomDU Moderator   Aug-10-06 01:38 AM   #1 
   Mine flew back on Tuesday  Scairp   Aug-10-06 03:53 AM   #32 
   oh my gawd. No brainers !  rodeodance   Aug-10-06 08:23 AM   #156 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-10-06 09:15 AM   #183 
   Ain't this the biggest CO-INKEDINK ? BE VERY AFRAID! VOTE REP !  dkblogger   Aug-10-06 10:46 AM   #247 
      Yep, of all the "bad" timing for our side. Gee whiz.  Humor_In_Cuneiform   Aug-10-06 07:04 PM   #389 
   Ok...  geomon666   Aug-10-06 01:46 AM   #2 
   CBS: "U.S. Aware of Plot for Days"  leveymg   Aug-10-06 10:59 AM   #257 
      I remember repeated warnings in the news  index555   Aug-10-06 02:28 PM   #350 
      It's all on the public record. Make your own connections,  leveymg   Aug-10-06 03:18 PM   #358 
      you're right - there were many public warnings and discussions  samsingh   Aug-10-06 05:38 PM   #384 
      UK Channel 4: Terror Raids brought forward due to US Intel  leveymg   Aug-10-06 03:31 PM   #360 
   Have to keep the Sheep Afraid.  TheWatcher   Aug-10-06 01:48 AM   #3 
   If that were the case, they would have allowed the plot to go forward.  DemCapitalist   Aug-10-06 07:42 AM   #144 
   I doubt it.  plasticsundance   Aug-10-06 08:12 AM   #152 
   Give that man a cigar  KevinJ   Aug-10-06 09:18 AM   #185 
   What "plot"? Has Jerkoff provided any evidence of the plot?  The Stranger   Aug-10-06 09:24 AM   #189 
   who needs evidence when the sheep will bleat on command...?  mike_c   Aug-10-06 11:42 AM   #280 
      of course, see Terror. Red...Run!! herding the Sheeple as usual  katty   Aug-10-06 12:25 PM   #304 
   Not to mention...  Virginia Dare   Aug-10-06 09:27 AM   #190 
   An airline boycott?  Tansy_Gold   Aug-10-06 05:31 PM   #382 
   Yes, they are brilliant, aren't they? What are we to do?  DemCapitalist   Aug-10-06 10:45 AM   #243 
   indeed,they are: no Lamont win mention today-GOP in Danger Alert Mode  katty   Aug-10-06 12:27 PM   #307 
   You got it!  savemefromdumbya   Aug-10-06 11:56 AM   #286 
   Interesting -- your statement assumes a plot.  The Stranger   Aug-10-06 09:22 AM   #188 
   Interesting -- your statement assumes a conspiracy.  DemCapitalist   Aug-10-06 10:46 AM   #245 
      The assumption of a plot comes before the assumption of a conspiracy.  The Stranger   Aug-10-06 11:23 AM   #274 
   Assuming there actually was a plot.  NCevilDUer   Aug-10-06 09:49 AM   #205 
      BINGO!  TankLV   Aug-10-06 10:41 AM   #237 
      By your logic  winter999   Aug-10-06 11:57 AM   #287 
         By my "logic" - THEY thought they wouldn't/couldn't possibly lose last  TankLV   Aug-10-06 12:43 PM   #316 
         By my "logic" - THEY thought they wouldn't/couldn't possibly lose last  TankLV   Aug-10-06 12:47 PM   #319 
            ...  muryan   Aug-10-06 05:32 PM   #383 
      Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-10-06 10:51 AM   #252 
         But they're playing it up to maximize the FEAR...  chascaz   Aug-10-06 11:03 AM   #262 
         ????  NCevilDUer   Aug-10-06 01:52 PM   #339 
         I love these consipracy theorists  Stella_Artois   Aug-10-06 01:54 PM   #340 
            I love naive innocence. n/t  Kailassa   Aug-10-06 02:24 PM   #349 
            It's called taking responsibility for your actions.  fooj   Aug-10-06 06:51 PM   #386 
   Sheikhs on a Plane! n/t  Efilroft Sul   Aug-10-06 08:46 AM   #165 
   rofl! n/t  michele77   Aug-10-06 09:08 AM   #177 
   Yeah...it's sad, but my first reaction is "it's a sham"  PurpleChez   Aug-10-06 09:36 AM   #195 
   A combination of fear and habituated compliance  Protagoras   Aug-10-06 10:47 AM   #249 
      Classic Pavlovian conditioning technique, also used by  coalition_unwilling   Aug-10-06 03:58 PM   #370 
   we heard something about this on the radio, i googled and  orleans   Aug-10-06 01:49 AM   #4 
   Chertoff during his speech mentioned the "leadership" of Bush  rfranklin   Aug-10-06 09:04 AM   #175 
   He's on vacation. Not his problem.  Midlodemocrat   Aug-10-06 09:09 AM   #179 
   So's Blair  The Deacon   Aug-10-06 10:34 AM   #230 
      I think Blair canceled his vacation. nt  Miss Chybil   Aug-10-06 01:59 PM   #341 
   :what exactly is bush doing to stop this"?  davekriss   Aug-10-06 10:45 AM   #244 
      DO NOT Drag Captain Kangaroo down to the Bush's level!  Up2Late   Aug-10-06 12:04 PM   #291 
      yup, they get alot done when MSM occupies 'the children' w/terror  katty   Aug-10-06 12:28 PM   #308 
      It's haaarrdd work..  ananda   Aug-10-06 12:35 PM   #311 
   so was this related to those four people on that flight from London to  NVMojo   Aug-10-06 01:49 AM   #5 
   didn't they just put in a system like ours  cal04   Aug-10-06 01:58 AM   #6 
   The British terror alert system  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 02:57 AM   #19 
   Yep....they did........and believe me.....John Reid......  BooScout   Aug-10-06 04:09 AM   #34 
      It is reminding me of V for Vendetta  leftchick   Aug-10-06 07:26 AM   #140 
         Same here..nt  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 08:13 AM   #153 
         TTN: Terrah Terrah Network. All terrah, all the time (except for  valerief   Aug-10-06 09:15 AM   #182 
         how many hundreds of times did people on DU  Protagoras   Aug-10-06 10:50 AM   #250 
         I wear my hat proudly...it hasn't failed me yet!  fooj   Aug-10-06 06:56 PM   #387 
         they even had MORE scrolls on Faux last night:  MisterP   Aug-10-06 11:01 PM   #393 
   Do they x-ray cargo from there yet?  uppityperson   Aug-10-06 01:59 AM   #7 
   Notice how it was the BRITISH Police that found this, NOT the TSA, DHS...  Up2Late   Aug-10-06 02:01 AM   #8 
   It was a British plot allegedly by second-generation British nationals. nt  megatherium   Aug-10-06 08:52 AM   #170 
   the Brits have much more lax rules in terms of surveillance  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-06 09:44 AM   #199 
   You should understand  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 11:43 AM   #281 
   Not sure if I understand your point, but...  Kutjara   Aug-10-06 11:58 AM   #288 
      The other ones you mention  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 12:04 PM   #292 
         OK, I see what you mean now. n/t  Kutjara   Aug-10-06 12:07 PM   #294 
   The plotters were from UK.  Praetorian7   Aug-10-06 12:10 PM   #295 
   It won't be the war criminal Tony Blair that will get his ass blown up  IndianaGreen   Aug-10-06 02:04 AM   #9 
   'plot' ??? i'm dubious  HuffleClaw   Aug-10-06 02:13 AM   #10 
   Most recent polls found public trusts Dems more than Repukes on  OregonBlue   Aug-10-06 10:14 AM   #218 
   What a bunch of shit  951-Riverside   Aug-10-06 02:14 AM   #11 
   This is the first I have heard of this  Lucy - Claire   Aug-10-06 02:20 AM   #12 
   "Critical" level means an attack expected imminently... Yikes!  Rhiannon12866   Aug-10-06 02:21 AM   #13 
   They said that the aim was UK to US flights.  Rhiannon12866   Aug-10-06 02:25 AM   #14 
   Heathrow has suspended checkins as they call in more help  maddezmomDU Moderator   Aug-10-06 02:28 AM   #15 
      I'm listening to CNN again right now. It sounds like a nightmare!  Rhiannon12866   Aug-10-06 10:52 AM   #254 
   Exactly! If they've made the arrest and foiled the attack what's  snappyturtle   Aug-10-06 09:29 AM   #192 
      You can rant to me, anytime.  Rhiannon12866   Aug-10-06 11:03 AM   #263 
         as far as who they single out  index555   Aug-10-06 12:51 PM   #323 
            Both good points.  Rhiannon12866   Aug-10-06 05:00 PM   #380 
   The UK government mostly lie about these things.  LivingInTheBubble   Aug-10-06 02:31 AM   #16 
   a thought here....  flyarm   Aug-10-06 02:38 AM   #17 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-10-06 03:43 AM   #27 
   I wish pepole would stop being so skeptical  Polethebear   Aug-10-06 04:48 AM   #51 
   Oh, yeah, like our skepticism is OUR FAULT?  Frank Cannon   Aug-10-06 09:09 AM   #178 
   We learned it from the masters of cynicism - the bush administration.  Southsideirish   Aug-10-06 09:47 AM   #203 
   The U.S. needs a provision for a vote of no confidence like Canada...  followthemoney   Aug-10-06 10:36 AM   #232 
   and the black helicoptors are landing in your back yard as we speak  FormerDem06   Aug-10-06 10:46 AM   #248 
      I've got black helicopters that fly over my house...  fooj   Aug-10-06 07:01 PM   #388 
   People do have to realize that  Megahurtz   Aug-10-06 03:42 PM   #361 
   Interesting, I wonder what is behind all the restrictions, too  mirandapriestly   Aug-10-06 04:53 AM   #55 
   It's more to do  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 06:11 AM   #105 
   WHAAAA?????  Godlesscommieprevert   Aug-10-06 07:13 AM   #136 
   Okay, I thought about it...  DemCapitalist   Aug-10-06 07:22 AM   #139 
   They become massless if you check them?  Thor_MN   Aug-10-06 08:10 AM   #150 
   not today..or yesterday ..but now they will advise passengers  flyarm   Aug-10-06 09:28 AM   #191 
      gee i guess i am so skeptical..oil prices down...already..  flyarm   Aug-10-06 09:35 AM   #194 
   Give me a freakin' break.  Zynx   Aug-10-06 10:23 AM   #224 
   Whether its in the cargo bay or in the cabin, it's still the same weight!  IronLionZion   Aug-10-06 10:41 AM   # 
   ...  huskerlaw   Aug-10-06 12:28 PM   #309 
   Hey, I see Elvis getting out of that black helicopter over there nt  ButterflyBlood   Aug-10-06 01:30 PM   #333 
   Don't be ridiculous.  Codeine   Aug-10-06 02:30 PM   #351 
   LOL. How about some basic physics  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-06 03:45 PM   #363 
      AND AS OF TOMMORROW THEY ARE TOLD NOTHING TO BE BROUGHT THROUGH  flyarm   Aug-10-06 03:56 PM   #369 
         You really think this is about saving fuel?  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-06 04:09 PM   #371 
            read:  flyarm   Aug-10-06 04:29 PM   #373 
            read more:  flyarm   Aug-10-06 04:33 PM   #374 
            how the hell do i know..i said "a thought here!! "  flyarm   Aug-10-06 04:41 PM   #378 
   18 arrests of "British nationals" were made overnight  muriel_volestrangler   Aug-10-06 02:54 AM   #18 
   18 - all named Emmanuel Goldstein  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 04:26 AM   #38 
      Lol!  Megahurtz   Aug-10-06 03:48 PM   #366 
   Great. Just great. My brother is flying transatlantic to London next week,  Wonk   Aug-10-06 03:03 AM   #20 
   We're flying on holiday  tenshi816   Aug-10-06 04:36 AM   #45 
   Tell him to switch to Virgin Air...  India3   Aug-10-06 10:02 AM   #216 
   Tell him he can save time by...  Kutjara   Aug-10-06 12:06 PM   #293 
   since he hasn't departed, he should not bring the laptop etc  pitohui   Aug-10-06 01:38 PM   #336 
   Issue in-flight jumpsuits..strip all passengers down  SoCalDem   Aug-10-06 03:12 AM   #21 
   Thongs and pasties, not jumpsuits :/ nt  Wonk   Aug-10-06 03:18 AM   #23 
   Just G-Strings-- No pasties  saigon68   Aug-10-06 03:21 AM   #24 
   Remember folks, not all of us are "g string-worthy"  SoCalDem   Aug-10-06 03:28 AM   #25 
   LOL  saigon68   Aug-10-06 04:07 AM   #33 
   Trust Me - The Sight Of ME In A Thong Would Qualify As  The Deacon   Aug-10-06 10:42 AM   #239 
   Thong and pasties .... right ...  Kailassa   Aug-10-06 08:11 AM   #151 
   Hahahahahahahahaha!  Megahurtz   Aug-10-06 03:52 PM   #367 
   naked-air.com  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-06 11:01 AM   #258 
   Americans are the most obese people on the planet, per capita  Snaggletooth   Aug-10-06 12:48 PM   #320 
   It would be IMPOSSIBLE for me...  regnaD kciN   Aug-10-06 05:54 AM   #68 
   You'll Need Hard Cases  Crisco   Aug-10-06 08:07 AM   #149 
   I'm in the same boat, I have to travel with my violin  Betty   Aug-10-06 08:33 AM   #160 
   Standard Uniforms for airflights....hummm...Sounds like a great idea!  Tight_rope   Aug-10-06 10:39 AM   #235 
   US Homeland Security may be banning liquids from hand luggage too  muriel_volestrangler   Aug-10-06 03:18 AM   #22 
   BA and other carriers now starting to cancel flights from the UK  muriel_volestrangler   Aug-10-06 03:34 AM   #26 
   Heathrow now closed to any flights not already in the air (n/t)  muriel_volestrangler   Aug-10-06 03:45 AM   #28 
   Really?  KC2   Aug-10-06 03:50 AM   #29 
      Yeah - they're full.  muriel_volestrangler   Aug-10-06 03:53 AM   #31 
   Obviously...  evox   Aug-10-06 03:53 AM   #30 
   Help justify no real ceasefire or withdrawal in Lebanon  Ghost Dog   Aug-10-06 05:03 AM   #59 
      Exactly, Why NOW  DemReadingDU   Aug-10-06 07:22 AM   #138 
         its needed to keep the Lamont win out of the headlines  WillYourVoteBCounted   Aug-10-06 09:01 AM   #173 
         If that was their concern  muriel_volestrangler   Aug-10-06 09:50 AM   #206 
         (Sheesh) n/t  Ghost Dog   Aug-10-06 11:43 AM   #282 
         We have a WINNER!  TankLV   Aug-10-06 10:44 AM   #242 
         'Cause Lieberman lost.. 'Cause the PEOPLE spoke..so, gotta get the  paparush   Aug-10-06 10:32 AM   #228 
   I was supposed to fly to Glasgow from London today...  Pert_UK   Aug-10-06 04:19 AM   #35 
   That's a long drive.....  BooScout   Aug-10-06 04:25 AM   #37 
   Cheers Booscout...  Pert_UK   Aug-10-06 04:39 AM   #47 
      Pack your woolies and your brolly.....  BooScout   Aug-10-06 04:46 AM   #50 
         Not as chilly as a farm on the coast nearer to Stranraer!  Pert_UK   Aug-10-06 05:05 AM   #61 
   Take the train. Faster than driving.  RebelOne   Aug-10-06 05:01 AM   #58 
   Yes, if I was actually going to Glasgow....but it's more expensive...  Pert_UK   Aug-10-06 05:04 AM   # 
   Amazing how UNPROTECTED trains and busses are, isn't it?!  TankLV   Aug-10-06 10:46 AM   #246 
      You're f'ing joking, right?  Tinfoil   Aug-10-06 11:29 AM   #276 
         I suppose I should have used the sarcasm smiley, but I thought intelligent  TankLV   Aug-10-06 12:41 PM   #315 
   It will only get worse  0007   Aug-10-06 06:07 AM   #72 
   All breast milk must be sampled.......seriously.  BooScout   Aug-10-06 04:23 AM   #36 
   You should maye change your name  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 04:28 AM   #39 
      Haha.......  BooScout   Aug-10-06 04:31 AM   #40 
         Forgot you were here  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 04:44 AM   #48 
            I hope they change that by November......  BooScout   Aug-10-06 04:49 AM   #52 
               No contact lens solution !  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 05:57 AM   #70 
                  1994 airliner bomb was disguised as contact solution,you can bring it  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-06 09:45 AM   #200 
   Anybody catch the Scotland Yard news conference?  KC2   Aug-10-06 04:33 AM   #41 
   21 in custody and remain calm.....  BooScout   Aug-10-06 04:50 AM   #53 
      have the 'patsies' all got long beards?  savemefromdumbya   Aug-10-06 11:58 AM   #289 
   The sad truth is that the masses don't know WHAT to believe.  Placebo   Aug-10-06 04:34 AM   #42 
   as always  evox   Aug-10-06 04:36 AM   #43 
   That's fucked up...  Breeze54   Aug-10-06 04:46 AM   #49 
   While it may be fashionable to believe everything is a lie  KC2   Aug-10-06 04:37 AM   #46 
   No.......the police act in good faith...BUT...  BooScout   Aug-10-06 04:55 AM   #56 
      Exactly -  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 05:33 AM   #66 
   The UK isn't the US.  Spider Jerusalem   Aug-10-06 06:54 AM   #130 
      I remind you  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 07:13 AM   #135 
         Well, yes, there is that...  Spider Jerusalem   Aug-10-06 07:49 AM   #145 
   Well the BAA websites seem to have crashed...  Pert_UK   Aug-10-06 04:36 AM   #44 
   I have it up....can I check a flight for you? n/t  BooScout   Aug-10-06 05:04 AM   #60 
   Thanks anyway.....  Pert_UK   Aug-10-06 05:14 AM   #64 
      I checked flights from Gatwick ...  BooScout   Aug-10-06 05:17 AM   #65 
   I wonder how many sites have a "bare minimum" mode to run in?  muriel_volestrangler   Aug-10-06 05:07 AM   #63 
   "Intended to be mass murder on an unimaginable scale."  KC2   Aug-10-06 04:51 AM   #54 
   Did he really say "unimaginative"?  muriel_volestrangler   Aug-10-06 04:58 AM   #57 
   edited  KC2   Aug-10-06 05:05 AM   #62 
   It actually *is* fairly unimaginative  MathGuy   Aug-10-06 10:15 AM   #219 
   I bet  Briar   Aug-10-06 09:12 AM   #180 
   Update on all UK airports + "carry on" / hand luggage restrictions  Pert_UK   Aug-10-06 05:37 AM   #67 
   Guessing this will be applied to USA too  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 05:54 AM   #69 
      banned items: Laptop computers, mobile phones, iPods, and remote controls  Breeze54   Aug-10-06 06:04 AM   #71 
         Did you notice  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 06:12 AM   #106 
         I didn't but I've heard it on the TV...  Breeze54   Aug-10-06 06:35 AM   #117 
         Followup  smb   Aug-10-06 11:19 AM   #271 
            Yes indeed.  Kutjara   Aug-10-06 12:23 PM   #302 
   can you IMAGINE how they are treating every passenger who isn't  HuffleClaw   Aug-10-06 06:08 AM   #73 
   Utter, utter, utter bollocks....  Pert_UK   Aug-10-06 06:18 AM   #108 
   Some would disagree with me but  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 06:20 AM   #110 
   Oh Bullshit....  BooScout   Aug-10-06 06:37 AM   #118 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-10-06 06:41 AM   #121 
   Reuters: Britain says attack expected imminently  Newsjock   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #74 
   just heard this as well  buddyhollysghost   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #75 
   BE AFRAID, BE AFRAID, BE AFRAID, BE AFRAID, BE AFRAID  saigon68   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #82 
      yep.eom  mirandapriestly   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #99 
      Not so much.  yibbehobba   Aug-10-06 06:10 AM   #104 
      Maybe we have reason to?  kryckis   Aug-10-06 08:27 AM   #158 
   "When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout..TERRORIST!  Phrogman   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #76 
   and then shoot your friend in the face with a shotgun while hanging out  truthisfreedom   Aug-10-06 06:10 AM   #101 
   all the terrorists know shrub dosnt like to interrupt his vacation  don954   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #77 
   They're on the move, remember  mogster   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #85 
      I thought they were in their last throes. Oops, thats insurgents  MiniMe   Aug-10-06 07:52 AM   #146 
   I wouldn't doubt this is all real  McKinneyIsAHero   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #78 
   Note: the terror alert system  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #79 
   Do they have colours too?  Matilda   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #80 
   No colours  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #84 
   Thanks for that bit of interesting information.  tuvor   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #81 
   The terror threat may be real  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #83 
   Are there any military/police exercises or drills scheduled?  rooboy   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #86 
   Not Cool  phrenzy   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #87 
      I saw Heathrow on CNN international.  girl gone mad   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #90 
      Take a train to Paris or, say, Amsterdam  Ghost Dog   Aug-10-06 06:10 AM   #102 
   I thought the coalition attack against Iraq was supposed to make us safer  lebkuchen   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #88 
   It's the gift that keeps on giving for Blair.  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #95 
      Remember, remember the 5th of November!!  paparush   Aug-10-06 10:36 AM   #231 
   BBC News posting  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #89 
   It sounds like a nightmare!  Rhiannon12866   Aug-10-06 11:08 AM   #266 
   I've pretty much laughed off most of the terra!terra! crap  buddyhollysghost   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #91 
   I know what you mean.  soup   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #93 
   Aw, go ahead and make the joke  buddyhollysghost   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #96 
   I don't think New Yorker's share your blaze' attitude, dude!  Breeze54   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #97 
   hey, my SIL was in the WTC the first time they tried to blow it to  buddyhollysghost   Aug-10-06 06:14 AM   #107 
   I understand that.... My sister  Breeze54   Aug-10-06 06:26 AM   #113 
      I'm with you  buddyhollysghost   Aug-10-06 06:43 AM   # 
         *big smile*  Breeze54   Aug-10-06 07:40 AM   #143 
   I disagree. Don't use New Yorkers as an example here.  Puglover   Aug-10-06 08:48 AM   #166 
   ditto nt  Drum   Aug-10-06 10:31 AM   #227 
   Agreed.  ReadTomPaine   Aug-10-06 11:51 AM   #284 
   not the first where bushco IGNORED the warnings, milked it for all it's  TankLV   Aug-10-06 10:57 AM   #256 
   I bet the family of Haruki Ikegami is not laughing  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-06 10:42 AM   #238 
   Terror alert increases in summer in an election year...  krispos42DU Moderator   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #92 
   Yes, Thom Hartmann said "something's afoot" today  mirandapriestly   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #100 
      Thom Hartmann's pretty savvy...  krispos42DU Moderator   Aug-10-06 06:43 AM   #123 
   If this is real  magellan   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #94 
   "Just what the neocons ordered."  Ghost Dog   Aug-10-06 06:10 AM   #103 
   This better be legit  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 06:09 AM   #98 
   Going to be?  BooScout   Aug-10-06 06:20 AM   #111 
   Blair made it out im time...nt  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 06:27 AM   #115 
   From what I'm hearing on BBC here, it's legit.  Matilda   Aug-10-06 06:26 AM   #114 
   So, they "foil" a terror attack...  regnaD kciN   Aug-10-06 06:39 AM   #119 
   9/11 was an inside job... anyone who believes the next  drduffy   Aug-10-06 06:45 AM   #124 
      But being frightened is sorta fun, and addictive.  Kailassa   Aug-10-06 10:41 AM   #236 
   Damn, only 2 months since the LAST fake terror plot...  western mass   Aug-10-06 06:19 AM   #109 
   At least they haven't shot anyone yet.....  BooScout   Aug-10-06 06:21 AM   #112 
   What did they think it was? A 'Cookers House'?... n/t  Breeze54   Aug-10-06 06:31 AM   #116 
   Its an election year.  Kip Humphrey   Aug-10-06 07:35 AM   #141 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-10-06 06:39 AM   #120 
   And the whackos have landed.  BooScout   Aug-10-06 06:49 AM   #126 
   Um....  distantearlywarning   Aug-10-06 06:56 AM   #131 
      I predict the stay will be a short one. n/t  BooScout   Aug-10-06 07:00 AM   #133 
         And he tried so hard to fit in here.......  BooScout   Aug-10-06 07:18 AM   #137 
   For Gods sake just put a bridge up....n/t  humbled_opinion   Aug-10-06 06:42 AM   #122 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-10-06 06:46 AM   #125 
   I don't much like people using "'tard" as an insult.  Kailassa   Aug-10-06 10:52 AM   #253 
   Ah, but remember this is Britain ...  Nihil   Aug-10-06 07:03 AM   #134 
   AP: Security Increases at U.S. Airports  Eugene   Aug-10-06 06:50 AM   #127 
   From your link  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 08:50 AM   #167 
   Is it 8/11?  Kip Humphrey   Aug-10-06 06:50 AM   #128 
   No.........it's 10/08  BooScout   Aug-10-06 06:52 AM   #129 
   There is a pattern with day 11 of a month. Board today, hit tomorrow.  Festivito   Aug-10-06 09:54 AM   #211 
      "Madrid, I think was 3/11?"  Ghost Dog   Aug-10-06 12:25 PM   #305 
   Good thing Bush made the world safer by taking out Saddam!!  Roland99   Aug-10-06 06:58 AM   #132 
   Excellent point. Yes, I sleep much better knowing he's locked up!  Southsideirish   Aug-10-06 09:49 AM   #204 
   Well... Rove did tell Lieberman GW wanted to help anyway he could.  Kip Humphrey   Aug-10-06 07:37 AM   #142 
   And this happened right after Joementum's defeat....hmmmmmm  Southsideirish   Aug-10-06 09:51 AM   #209 
      Defeat? I'll bet you $20 he is reelected in Nov when the whole  Biernuts   Aug-10-06 02:49 PM   #353 
   This is all probably quite legit, but with Tony's close ties to  Vinca   Aug-10-06 07:56 AM   #147 
   Is it just me or does anyone else see a pattern emerging....  pcboss49   Aug-10-06 07:56 AM   #148 
   No liquid is to be allowed as that  rosesaylavee   Aug-10-06 08:15 AM   #154 
   Probable specific on Yahoo News  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 08:41 AM   #164 
   My skepticism alert level is at red  confludemocrat   Aug-10-06 08:19 AM   #155 
   Right  KayLaw   Aug-10-06 08:27 AM   #157 
   It's hard to tell  CJCRANE   Aug-10-06 08:30 AM   #159 
   right now on NBC  dancingAlone   Aug-10-06 08:34 AM   #162 
   Yeah and don't forget  Puglover   Aug-10-06 08:51 AM   #168 
      and don't forget to fill up the gas tanks of your SUV's  pcboss49   Aug-10-06 09:31 AM   #193 
   Mine too!  0007   Aug-10-06 01:02 PM   #326 
   Why NOW? We know why...  noel711   Aug-10-06 08:33 AM   #161 
   yep  savemefromdumbya   Aug-10-06 12:00 PM   #290 
   Guess I won't be traveling there anytime soon  alarimer   Aug-10-06 08:37 AM   #163 
   Don't Worry  Woolwich   Aug-10-06 08:52 AM   #169 
   Nice you have that option  Patiod   Aug-10-06 09:46 AM   #201 
   Darn those lever machines in Connecticut - must distract  WillYourVoteBCounted   Aug-10-06 08:55 AM   #171 
   Very Well Timed Indeed  Rockholm   Aug-10-06 09:01 AM   #174 
   Yeah, the timing was soooooo predictable. Right out of their playbook.  valerief   Aug-10-06 09:17 AM   #184 
   WTF does this have to do with CT?!  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-06 09:59 AM   #215 
   Well, let's review the known facts: LIEberman is the repukes' favorite  TankLV   Aug-10-06 11:02 AM   #260 
      paging the nice men in little white coats  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-06 11:09 AM   #267 
         They're looking for YOU...  TankLV   Aug-10-06 12:40 PM   #314 
            uuummmm, this was in Britain  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-06 12:49 PM   #322 
               THEY have already proved me RIGHT. You're WRONG.  TankLV   Aug-10-06 04:36 PM   #375 
   Keep that thinking cap on, Gomer. nt  antfarm   Aug-10-06 10:21 AM   #222 
   As this relates to the current situation in the ME  plasticsundance   Aug-10-06 08:59 AM   #172 
   The last three days  outofbounds   Aug-10-06 09:06 AM   #176 
   Fighting them over there [Iraq] so we dont have to fight them over here...  galadrium   Aug-10-06 09:13 AM   #181 
   i love that...  michele77   Aug-10-06 09:19 AM   #186 
   WHOA...  jasonc   Aug-10-06 09:20 AM   #187 
   I'm going to withhold judgement for now on this one  MadHound   Aug-10-06 09:37 AM   #196 
   Wasn't TaTp used in the London bombings.  AndrewJacksonFaction   Aug-10-06 10:23 AM   #223 
      Yes it was  MadHound   Aug-10-06 10:27 AM   #226 
         I'm also skeptical ... but a question  plasticsundance   Aug-10-06 11:15 AM   #269 
            All I can say is YIKES  MadHound   Aug-10-06 11:41 AM   #279 
   It must be close to November elections, need more TERRRORR!  oc2002   Aug-10-06 09:39 AM   #197 
   Fear propaganda - I don't buy it. n/t  RCinBrooklyn   Aug-10-06 09:42 AM   #198 
   Yadda, yadda, yadda, Please be afraid at all times so that we may conduct  leesa   Aug-10-06 09:46 AM   #202 
   Not to mention conducting the re-election of Republicans  Feles Mala   Aug-10-06 09:55 AM   #214 
   no doubt about that  evox   Aug-10-06 12:13 PM   #296 
   Straight to the point, thanks.  Ghost Dog   Aug-10-06 12:38 PM   #312 
   alleged plots  mikeyj84   Aug-10-06 09:50 AM   #207 
   I applaud whoever busted this plot  insleeforprez   Aug-10-06 09:51 AM   #208 
   I'd like to send the fiction writer who made up this plot  Kailassa   Aug-10-06 11:03 AM   #261 
   US corporate media trying to link this to Al Queda  Love Bug   Aug-10-06 09:53 AM   #210 
   In 1994 Ramsey Yousef killed a passenger w/ a liquid nitro bomb  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-06 09:55 AM   #212 
   Thanks for that information-----clears up a lot for me.  GrumpyGreg   Aug-10-06 10:17 AM   #220 
   Google "bojinka"  mike923   Aug-10-06 09:55 AM   #213 
   But Bojinka Wuz Durin' Clinton's Watch, So It Don't Count  VogonGlory   Aug-10-06 10:04 AM   #217 
   I caught Richard Clark discussing that on GMA. There's a link way  54anickel   Aug-10-06 11:19 AM   #272 
   So are they stupid  Dubiosus   Aug-10-06 10:19 AM   #221 
   Bingo Dubiosus! You are a winning... Welcome to DU!  Tight_rope   Aug-10-06 10:44 AM   #241 
      Thank you Tight_rope  Dubiosus   Aug-12-06 04:19 AM   #394 
   Gee, and it was good old investigative work that got  EC   Aug-10-06 10:26 AM   #225 
   .  Ghost Dog   Aug-10-06 12:48 PM   #321 
   This is a distraction  AngryAmish   Aug-10-06 10:34 AM   #229 
   1 day after the Lamont win  LSK   Aug-10-06 10:39 AM   #233 
   Call me extremely skeptical.  TankLV   Aug-10-06 10:39 AM   #234 
   just call you at least normal intelligent  Dubiosus   Aug-10-06 10:44 AM   #240 
   I'm skeptical too....  FormerDem06   Aug-10-06 11:02 AM   #259 
   I agree; I don't believe he knew anything about 9/11, either.  Kailassa   Aug-10-06 11:20 AM   #273 
      He didn't know anything about it  evox   Aug-10-06 12:18 PM   #299 
   You conspiracy NUTS -  winter999   Aug-10-06 12:19 PM   #300 
   Uhhhhhhh...NO!  fooj   Aug-10-06 07:14 PM   #390 
   CNN and MSNBC  janetle   Aug-10-06 12:26 PM   #306 
   So these 21 British guys are going to end up serving life sentances....  mike923   Aug-10-06 12:45 PM   #318 
   The plaot - The Plot, keep your eye on the plot, right thru November!  Imagevision   Aug-10-06 10:50 AM   #251 
   That's right, keep your eyes on the plot  drdtroit   Aug-10-06 11:32 AM   #278 
   Oh joy.  fudge stripe cookays   Aug-10-06 10:55 AM   #255 
   Only GOP Gov's in on the plan?/Media  dtavitia   Aug-10-06 11:05 AM   #264 
   Now you're forced to buy refreshments from the airlines  transeo   Aug-10-06 11:07 AM   #265 
   Tasting the baby's milk isn't so bad,  Kailassa   Aug-10-06 11:15 AM   #268 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-10-06 11:16 AM   #270 
   A win-win for Bush  johnlal   Aug-10-06 11:28 AM   #275 
   BTW, What color is the threat level?  johnlal   Aug-10-06 11:31 AM   #277 
   In the UK...................  edwardlindy   Aug-10-06 11:52 AM   #285 
   it is code red on usa airlines  pitohui   Aug-10-06 01:36 PM   #335 
   Gets Lieberman off the front page - Carl affraid Joe has No Momentum?  Riverman   Aug-10-06 11:51 AM   #283 
   this is just their new way of taking people's Sierra Mist  Algorem   Aug-10-06 12:16 PM   #297 
   and to force people  evox   Aug-10-06 12:24 PM   #303 
   Probably turn out to be a bunch of big talk  creeksneakers2   Aug-10-06 12:18 PM   #298 
   And Snow says..  mvdDU Moderator   Aug-10-06 12:21 PM   #301 
   Blair just gave it away, didnt he?  evox   Aug-10-06 12:33 PM   #310 
   BINGO!!! Compare with:  Ghost Dog   Aug-10-06 01:02 PM   #327 
   It's a great money-saving idea by the Blair government.  Kutjara   Aug-10-06 12:38 PM   #313 
   Might this be related?  InkAddict   Aug-10-06 12:45 PM   #317 
   There was no terror plot. They're just fucking with us at this point.  EOO   Aug-10-06 12:58 PM   #324 
   Again....why would these 21 British guys...  mike923   Aug-10-06 12:59 PM   #325 
      Exactly.  EOO   Aug-10-06 01:03 PM   #328 
      You've tried them and found them guilty already?  Kailassa   Aug-10-06 01:44 PM   #337 
      Most likely they aren't going to be set free....  mike923   Aug-10-06 01:59 PM   #343 
      Huh? I mean HUH??!!  NCevilDUer   Aug-10-06 02:45 PM   #352 
      what i'm saying is....  mike923   Aug-10-06 02:55 PM   #354 
         Why would you think the supposed plotters are in on an anti-Lamont  NCevilDUer   Aug-10-06 03:05 PM   #355 
            I certainly don't....  mike923   Aug-10-06 03:46 PM   #365 
      You have a point......  Megahurtz   Aug-10-06 04:28 PM   #372 
         It's as is there is no common sense anymore...  mike923   Aug-10-06 04:36 PM   #376 
            Probably the latter......  Megahurtz   Aug-10-06 05:16 PM   #381 
   I'd be interested to hear if  KC2   Aug-10-06 01:06 PM   #329 
   last i heard heathrow, gatwick, luton etc. are still closed  pitohui   Aug-10-06 01:30 PM   #334 
   These people should be shot  Autonomy   Aug-10-06 01:09 PM   #330 
   I will be getting a call from homeland security any minute now  daveskilt   Aug-10-06 01:21 PM   #331 
   I guess you could make origami out of the in flight magazine!  KC2   Aug-10-06 01:28 PM   #332 
   %30 of America is confused..  NastyDiaper   Aug-10-06 01:49 PM   #338 
   Your Right! "HOW DID SADDAM DO THIS FROM JAIL"?  Tight_rope   Aug-10-06 03:13 PM   #357 
   At this rate we'll all be flying Tom Friedman's Naked Air  KamaAina   Aug-10-06 01:59 PM   #342 
   No, even that won't keep you safe.  Kailassa   Aug-10-06 02:14 PM   #347 
   Its one thing to conviscate a lighter  mitts   Aug-10-06 02:06 PM   #344 
   Rampaging poodle saves the world; terrorists sent to phantom zone.  Vidar   Aug-10-06 02:08 PM   #345 
   Boston going all out on terra terra terra  ArmchairMeme   Aug-10-06 02:13 PM   #346 
   Are you serious?  ramapo   Aug-10-06 03:54 PM   #368 
   Bullsh*t!  stepnw1f   Aug-10-06 02:21 PM   #348 
   "Ban on all liquids and gels from carry-on luggage!" WTF  Tight_rope   Aug-10-06 03:08 PM   #356 
   Another Thing about the liquid...  CLW   Aug-10-06 03:26 PM   #359 
   more BS  BrokenBeyondRepair   Aug-10-06 03:45 PM   #362 
   "Freedoms"? No. The terrorists hate us for our Liebermans.  Voltaire99   Aug-10-06 03:46 PM   #364 
   AP: British Say Plot Involved 10 Airliners  Eugene   Aug-10-06 04:39 PM   #377 
   Fuck these "plots!"  6000eliot   Aug-10-06 04:50 PM   #379 
   I don't think anybody could have predicted ...  Everybody   Aug-10-06 06:11 PM   #385 
   I don't believe a friggin word they say on anything especially this  williesgirl   Aug-10-06 10:03 PM   #391 
   Unfortunately  They Live   Aug-10-06 10:55 PM   #392 
 
maddezmom DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 01:38 AM
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1. wow, my husband took a BA flight on Sunday and wasn't allowed to take his
normal carry on for the first time but he was allowed his laptop and cellphone. However on his return flight yesterday he was allowed to take all three.
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Scairp (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 03:53 AM
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32. Mine flew back on Tuesday
He flies Virgin, and everything was normal. I am really glad he isn't still there.

This all seems really over the top. They want adults with babies to drink out of the baby bottles? This is really gross, and unless they plan to pour some of it into a separate container, then the formula or breast milk is no longer fit for consumption by the child. This happened here during the transition to the dubiously named TSA, and all finally agreed this was truly stupid. They are also allowing certain necessities on board, in clear plastic bags. It includes baby items like diapers and wipes, plus feminine hygiene products. Just what I want to do, put my tampons in a clear bag for all to see.
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 08:23 AM
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156. oh my gawd. No brainers !
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dkblogger (18 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:46 AM
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247. Ain't this the biggest CO-INKEDINK ? BE VERY AFRAID! VOTE REP !
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Humor_In_Cuneiform (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 07:04 PM
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389. Yep, of all the "bad" timing for our side. Gee whiz.
And we know that the Blair administration is as trustworthy as our own administration.

He does talk purty though (Blair).

:sarcasm:

Playing variations on a theme, since we already memorized the original theme. Raising the terror alert level at opportune times for them on the flimsiest of excuses.

Now they're teaming up with the UK to make it more believable, and don't mind inconveniencing travelers.

Cause it helps remind one and all that we are living in a dangerous world.

There was a study, maybe cited by John Dean, in which half the subjects were shown pictures of 911 (Hey, isn't there a movie out by that name as well? Amazing :sarcasm: ).

Anyhow the ones shown the pictures were more likely to favor dub in foreign policy. But the statistic that was unchanged regardless of whether they saw the pictures or not was the feeling that the Iraq war was a mistake handled terribly.
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geomon666 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 01:46 AM
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2. Ok...
"Everything had to be checked in and that includes mobile phones, ipods, wallets - even spectacle cases had to be checked in."

That is just freakin stupid.

Don't they know about x-ray scanners?
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leveymg (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:59 AM
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257. CBS: "U.S. Aware of Plot for Days"
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 11:00 AM by leveymg
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/videos500251.sh...

U.S. Aware Of Plot For Days

Jim Axelrod spoke with Press Secretary Tony Snow about the U.S.'s involvement in the British investigation of the alleged terrorist plot. Snow says President Bush has been aware of the plot for days.

They also knew about the 9/11 plot for 18 months

It was planned at an al-Qaeda summit in Kuala Lumpur that was attended by Atta's roommate and the Flt. 77 hijackers. The CIA videotaped the whole thing and then followed the Flt 77 hijackers as they entered the US on 01/15/00 - the FBI liason at the CIA Counter-Terrorism Center was ordered not to send a cable about their entry to the FBI National Security Office in NY.

The Agency and a couple foreign intel agencies illegally monitored the plot inside the US without obtaining FISA warrants. For some reason we don't understand yet, that surveillance was relaxed enough in the late summer of 2001 so Atta and the gang could carry off the plot that the Agency had told the Bushites about much earlier. See the link below for all the details, citations, sources, links.

See, Scoop: UQ Wire: THE CRIMES OF 9/11 (Part 4)In early summer 2001 , US officials received numerous warnings from domestic and foreign intelligence agencies that al-Qaeda terrorists planned ...
www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00257.htm


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index555 (166 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:28 PM
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350. I remember repeated warnings in the news
of possible impending terrorist attacks for several months before 9/11, why doesn't anybody else seem to remember?
now everybody on the right and the left seem more interested in "re-connecting the dots" to suit whatever political agenda they have.
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leveymg (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 03:18 PM
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358. It's all on the public record. Make your own connections,
and don't let any interested party cut off lines of inquiry.

Something close to the truth is available to anyone with an open mind willing to do the work.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #350
384. you're right - there were many public warnings and discussionsUpdated at 6:01 PM
before 911. people seem to have forgotton.
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leveymg (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 03:31 PM
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360. UK Channel 4: Terror Raids brought forward due to US Intel
This just posted at another thread. Confirms that timimg of the raid came from U.S. side:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-10-06 03:13 PM
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UK Channel 4 News: Terror Raids brought forward due US Intel

Just heard on UK More4 (Channel4) News that the decision to stage the terror raids today was based on intelligence from the US. The US info apparently made it seem that the threat was immediate and that the terror attacks had been brought forward.
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 01:48 AM
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3. Have to keep the Sheep Afraid.


:eyes:
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DemCapitalist (32 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 07:42 AM
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144. If that were the case, they would have allowed the plot to go forward.
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plasticsundance (786 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 08:12 AM
Response to Reply #144
152. I doubt it.
If they let it go forward, then they would be faced with failure in the eyes of the public. In addition, what do you think the US or the UK is going to do in response? Attack Pakistan? C'mon. If they only let out warnings and foiled attempts, they kill to birds with one stone. Not only do they look like they're acting tough in the war on terror, but they keep the public on high alert.
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:18 AM
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185. Give that man a cigar
Astute analysis and absolutely on the money, imho.
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The Stranger (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #152
189. What "plot"? Has Jerkoff provided any evidence of the plot?
Or would that jeopardize "security" and "embolden the terrorists."
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 11:42 AM
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280. who needs evidence when the sheep will bleat on command...?
:shrug:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #280
304. of course, see Terror. Red...Run!! herding the Sheeple as usual
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #152
190. Not to mention...
the airlines can't afford to take the hit right now, and Wall Street is tenuous at best.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #190
382. An airline boycott?
They are really on the financial edge right now, and methinks a one- or two-week boycott would put them over.

I'm scheduled to fly into O'Hare in mid-September. I'm thinking that if I can't take anything on the plane with me but what will fit in my pocket -- not a purse, mind you, but a pocket -- I may just strip off everything and fly naked, and then protest my boredom at not even being allowed to bring a book to read by singing show tunes for the whole three hours and seventeen minutes of the flight. And no, I will NOT pay five fucking dollars for their cheap-ass headphones so I can hear some stupid fucking movie shown on a screen smaller than my not-widescreen tv.

Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em, fuck 'em, fuck 'em.



Tansy Gold, normally a patient soul but becoming angry. Very angry.


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DemCapitalist (32 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #152
243. Yes, they are brilliant, aren't they? What are we to do?
:shrug:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #243
307. indeed,they are: no Lamont win mention today-GOP in Danger Alert Mode
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #152
286. You got it!
Blair would be a failure if they blew up
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The Stranger (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #144
188. Interesting -- your statement assumes a plot.
Have you questioned that assumption?
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DemCapitalist (32 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:46 AM
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245. Interesting -- your statement assumes a conspiracy.
Have you questioned that assumption?
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The Stranger (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 11:23 AM
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274. The assumption of a plot comes before the assumption of a conspiracy.
If there had never been news of a "plot," there would not be any explanation based on a "conspiracy."

First things first.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #144
205. Assuming there actually was a plot.
Anti war candidate defeats a major Bush supporter - next day, a terror plot is thwarted.

That's great timing.
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:41 AM
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237. BINGO!
Just another AMAZING "lucky" "COOINCIDENCE" for the repukes - including that new repuke "holy" joe (R-Asswipe)...
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winter999 (530 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #237
287. By your logic
this news should have come BEFORE Tuesday's primary.

The 'theory' doesn't float.
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #287
316. By my "logic" - THEY thought they wouldn't/couldn't possibly lose last
Tuesday.

NOW they KNOW they CAN possibly lose it all in NOVEMBER.

So my "logic" is rock solid.
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 12:47 PM
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319. By my "logic" - THEY thought they wouldn't/couldn't possibly lose last
Tuesday.

NOW they KNOW they CAN possibly lose it ALL in NOVEMBER.

Sorry, but my "logic" is rock solid.
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muryan (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 05:32 PM
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383. ...
:tinfoilhat:
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chascaz (181 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 11:03 AM
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262. But they're playing it up to maximize the FEAR...
If they can overreact to every little thing, they'll keep their authoritarian followers in line (and maybe get a few more). It's the politics of FEAR, get used to it.

Peace - :)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 01:52 PM
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339. ????
What's that supposed to mean? What's McKinney got to do with this?

And, even if there were not plenty of indications that Lamont would take Lieberman, what kind of lead up would they need? There has been NOTHING to this plot but accusations. Like the ones we've "thwarted" in the last couple years, you've got some disaffected Muslims who have been under surveillance for months, who may or may not have been talking among themselves about doing something, but when they are arrested they have no funding, no explosives, no capability of doing what they are accused of plotting. Lincoln Tunnel? Liberty Tower? Ring a bell? All they have to do is, when there is something that hurts the war effort, round up a few of the usual suspects and grab the headlines for a few days - then it disappears and the charges are quitely reduced to minor infractions. It goes away.

How many times can they pull this shit before we catch on?
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Stella_Artois (771 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 01:54 PM
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340. I love these consipracy theorists
I can't wait to see what happens when these terror alerts continue to happen long after the republicans loose the whitehouse. Who are they going to blame, when Bush is gone ?

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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:24 PM
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349. I love naive innocence. n/t
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fooj (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #340
386. It's called taking responsibility for your actions.
I don't give a crap WHO is in the White House. Actions have consequences. Period.
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Efilroft Sul (801 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 08:46 AM
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165. Sheikhs on a Plane! n/t
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 09:08 AM
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177. rofl! n/t
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:36 AM
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195. Yeah...it's sad, but my first reaction is "it's a sham"
I mean...they could have legitimate concerns for my wife's legitimate safety (she's taking off out of Hartsfield-Jackson literally as we speak), but my gut reaction is that it's all a PR attempt to prop up the chimp's numbers
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Protagoras (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:47 AM
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249. A combination of fear and habituated compliance
They want us too scared to think but they also want us conditioned to reflexively comply with even the most absurd request/demands of authority.

We are being groomed to be the obedient prols they desire and most people don't even pause in the cattle line to think about it.

It's not going to stop till people make it stop.
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #249
370. Classic Pavlovian conditioning technique, also used by
casinos in Vegas and farmers with electric fences. Stimulus to produce response -- you need to have a "hit" (slot machine payout or terrorist strike) every so often to keep the stimulus-response relationship chugging along.

After BFEE lied about Iraq, why believe anything further that they or their minions say?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 01:49 AM
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4. we heard something about this on the radio, i googled and
found this headline

"Airline terror plot 'foiled'"

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,200815...

so what exactly is bush doing to stop this shit? lucky the british weren't asleep
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:04 AM
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175. Chertoff during his speech mentioned the "leadership" of Bush
when he was reassuring us how vigilant they all are.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:09 AM
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179. He's on vacation. Not his problem.
:sarcasm:
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The Deacon (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:34 AM
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230. So's Blair
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Miss Chybil (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 01:59 PM
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341. I think Blair canceled his vacation. nt
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:45 AM
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244. :what exactly is bush doing to stop this"?
Whaddya' mean what is Bush doing?! He's repealing the estate tax, planning how to get his mitts on the Social Security Trust Fund, planning on invading Syria and Iran, rolling back environmental and occupational safety regulations, repealing the Constitution, torturing innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan and Cuba, borrowing more money than the previous 42 President's combined, upping the military recruitment age to 42, planning his next fall disinformation campaign (as we all know, we don't roll out new product in the summer) -- I mean, like Captain Kangaroo, George Bush is a busy busy busy busy busy busy man.

:nuke:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 12:04 PM
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291. DO NOT Drag Captain Kangaroo down to the Bush's level!
Captain Kangaroo was a GREAT man, loved my Millions of Children, including me! Unlike the Crawford turd we have in the White House.
:sarcasm:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #244
308. yup, they get alot done when MSM occupies 'the children' w/terror
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 12:35 PM
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311. It's haaarrdd work..
.. to destroy countries and cut brush in Crawford.
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 01:49 AM
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5. so was this related to those four people on that flight from London to
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 01:50 AM by NVMojo
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 01:58 AM
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6. didn't they just put in a system like oursUpdated at 5:33 PM
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 02:01 AM by cal04
Britain says attack expected imminently
Britain raised its security threat level to "critical" on Thursday, which means it expects an attack imminently, after a police said they had foiled a plot to blow up aircraft.

The Home Office Web Site showed the rating had been raised to "critical" from "severe" earlier on Thursday. Britain has a five level rating for security threats, ranging from low to critical, which is the highest level.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L10254208.htm

All passengers must be hand searched, and their footwear and all the items they are carrying must be x-ray screened," a BAA statement said.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/08/10/uk.terror/in...
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:57 AM
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19. The British terror alert system
was introduced on 1st August this year.
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BooScout (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 04:09 AM
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34. Yep....they did........and believe me.....John Reid......
....Acting poodle in chief while Tony working on his tan is having it blasted all over the tv.

:eyes:
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 07:26 AM
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140. It is reminding me of V for Vendetta
the TV station blasting all of the terra alerts over and over. :eyes:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 08:13 AM
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153. Same here..nt
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:15 AM
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182. TTN: Terrah Terrah Network. All terrah, all the time (except for
pre-emptive war coverage).
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Protagoras (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:50 AM
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250. how many hundreds of times did people on DU
predict we'd suddenly re-find our TERRA alert in the days marching up to the election? Like shooting fish in a barrel it's so easy to see what's going to happen sometimes.

But then we're the nutty CT people who don't accept that our government is noble and good and that it's NORMAL AND NATURAL to accept body searches, shoe removal, and toothpaste paranoia in order to move from one place to another.
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fooj (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 06:56 PM
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387. I wear my hat proudly...it hasn't failed me yet!
:tinfoilhat:
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 11:01 PM
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393. they even had MORE scrolls on Faux last night:
two at the bottom (at different speeds), and one behind the BTN bimbette-and-mimbo 'team'
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 01:59 AM
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7. Do they x-ray cargo from there yet?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:01 AM
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8. Notice how it was the BRITISH Police that found this, NOT the TSA, DHS...
...FBI, CIA, ETC. :boring:
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megatherium (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 08:52 AM
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170. It was a British plot allegedly by second-generation British nationals. nt
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:44 AM
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199. the Brits have much more lax rules in terms of surveillance
I wonder if the FBI/CIA/DHS would have uncovered this.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 11:43 AM
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281. You should understand
We've got the Police here in the UK and that's it. Part of that is called Special Branch. We've never had anything else to my knowledge apart from the Home Guard during WW2.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 11:58 AM
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288. Not sure if I understand your point, but...
...the UK also has MI5, MI6, GCHQ (for intercepting signals intelligence) and is also a participant in Carnivore/Echelon/whatever they call it these days, through close ties with the NSA. Their intelligence infrastructure is just as sophisticated and intrusive as ours (give or take a supercomputer or two), so it's not only the police who'd be involved in an operation of this type.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 12:04 PM
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292. The other ones you mention
are not exactly "out on the street" as are your FBI, NSA etc.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 12:07 PM
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294. OK, I see what you mean now. n/t
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Praetorian7 (8 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 12:10 PM
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295. The plotters were from UK.
It was buncha guys from UK - I doubt the Brits let our agencies operate there (not to mention I doubt we'd have the resources). Not sure I follow how FBI was supposed to figure that one out ?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:04 AM
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9. It won't be the war criminal Tony Blair that will get his ass blown up
it will be innocent people that are being put at risk by the folly of the Blair government.
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:13 AM
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10. 'plot' ??? i'm dubious
i'm betting this is gonna turn out to be another 'thought criminal' case.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:14 AM
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218. Most recent polls found public trusts Dems more than Repukes on
homeland security. Think maybe Tony and his master are in trouble? Voila! A plot!
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951-Riverside (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:14 AM
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11. What a bunch of shit
Unless they don't screen carry-ons why are they so worried?

This is reminiscent of Bush and his "Liberty Towers" bullshit which he never apologized for and the story quickly went away.
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Lucy - Claire (151 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:20 AM
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12. This is the first I have heard of this
British Airports have had good security for decades but as my parents are flying into London today, I am happy that they are being extra vigilent today
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:21 AM
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13. "Critical" level means an attack expected imminently... Yikes!
This sounds like it's damn serious! A "most significant" threat, "not finished," "pretty sure," strong words for the British press. But they also said that it "was foiled," and that they have made several arrests, but that the threat is "still critical..." :scared:
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:25 AM
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14. They said that the aim was UK to US flights.
The naysayers may be right. I'd like to think that this is just another fizzy Pepsi can in the NY subways, but they still are calling this a "critical" threat... :shrug:
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maddezmom DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-10-06 02:28 AM
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15. Heathrow has suspended checkins as they call in more help
Other airports reporting check-ins taking upto 5 hours.
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 10:52 AM
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254. I'm listening to CNN again right now. It sounds like a nightmare!
I can't imagine taking any trip without bringing shampoo... :eyes:
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 09:29 AM
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192. Exactly! If they've made the arrest and foiled the attack what's
with putting EVERY ticket holder through all this crap? I quit flying in May of 2002...I was in Duluth catching a feeder flight to Minneapolis to go on to Chicago and by the time THEY were done sticking their fingers in my shampoo bottle etc. I was sickened. Then I and a mother of an infant and a business man were singled out for another check at the gate.....meanwhile my purse, carry-on and shoes were in three different locations.....can't imagine what these folks in London are going through. Sorry for this little rant but I didn't feel any safer then after all this checking. Plain stupid. They went through both my carry-on and the bag I eventually checked through.

With this latest disclosure why can't they do their jobs and shut up like most of us do everyday and quit telling us how wonderful they are? I went on again, didn't I?
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 11:03 AM
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263. You can rant to me, anytime.
I haven't flown since before 9/11. I've never been a big fan of flying, anyway, but I realize that you have to fly if you're going to get to certain places. I once had a panic attack on a non-stop flight from JFK to Helsinki. I told the flight attendant that I really needed to get off and asked her how much longer that it would be. She said six hours! Yikes! I wouldn't have survived that flight without her kindness. I highly recommend Finnair... :D

I'm sorry that you had to go through all that. The people who they single out make no sense to me. My cousin had to take off her shoes in the airport - and she was wearing sandals. And she's blonde and was traveling with her little boy. He was pretty freaked out when they took her away. :-(

I tend to agree with much of the skepticism here. The more I hear, the more this sounds like another soda can in the subway distraction to me. x(

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index555 (166 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 12:51 PM
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323. as far as who they single out
It has to be "random",otherwise they would be "racial profiling" and that would "violate their civil rights."
on one hand it is a simple fact that a middle easterner right now is far more likely to try to blow up a plane than any other racial group.
on the other hand even among middle eastern people what's the likelihood that any one person on a plane will be a terrorist? 1 in a hundred thousand, a million?, 10 million?
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 05:00 PM
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380. Both good points.
But how many hijackers have been women, anyway? Like SnappyTurtle and my cousin? And she said that they chose a woman with an infant, as well. I suppose that she could have hidden explosives in her baby's diaper... :eyes:

And my cousin is blonde, hardly Middle Eastern looking. It's true that most people from the Middle East are as terrified of hijackings as we are. My veterinarian is from the Middle East and he flies a lot, but doesn't seem to have had a problem. In fact, he was a big hero on a flight back from Russia because he saved a man who collapsed after having had a stroke. :-)

But if you take a look at the footage of the 9/11 hijackers before they got on those planes, wouldn't you have been suspicious of those men? The look on Mohammed Atta's face makes my blood run cold, no matter where he was from... :scared:
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LivingInTheBubble (360 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:31 AM
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16. The UK government mostly lie about these things.
So i'll wait and see what actually is going on.

What does "foiled" mean anyway, obviously it hasnt been foiled as they have these restrictions in place.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 02:38 AM
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17. a thought here....
all the carry ons..add weight to a flight ..more weight.. more fuel consumed..

now with BP oil shut down..could Blair being holding back fuel for the british airlines..and US carriers..in preperation for a air strike on Iran?

i believe Blair shut down the oil fields of BP to reserve oil..in case of a oil shortage in the event of air strikes on Iran!

think about it..its a self imposed reserve of oil...

fly
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Polethebear (190 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-10-06 04:48 AM
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51. I wish pepole would stop being so skeptical