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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 03:17 PM
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Duncan Smith seeks recall of Parliament to set up tribunal
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The Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, yesterday urged Tony Blair to recall Parliament so that a tribunal could be established to investigate the way the Government handled intelligence on Iraq.

As the Prime Minister announced an independent review by a senior judge into the death of the civil servant Dr David Kelly, Mr Duncan Smith wrote to Mr Blair to demand a full and detailed look at the way the intelligence was treated.

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Link: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?sto...

I swear, I am posting this while listening to the Beatles 'Day In The Life' on internet radio!

I heard the news today, oh boy...

Somehow appropriate I guess...

:shrug:

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 03:24 PM
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1. As much as I hate Conservatives...
I desperately want to see the Poodle's government go down in a flames. The Iraq thing was too much for me to stomach. Tony's an idiot if he thinks Dubya is trustworthy.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:07 PM
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2. Yeah, Fuck Tony Blair
He should have known better. He governs like a conservative anyway. Labour can put up anybody, even a weak, noncharismatic PM; maybe they will win. It would be a shame to lose someone from the left who followed Bill Clinton into power, but so be it.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:13 PM
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4. I want to sell Tony Blair......
..... some prime Florida waterfront property I have in the Everglades.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:45 PM
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9. i like the way you think!
excellent idea!
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:13 PM
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3. I'm actually starting to think we have it better here
Edited on Sun Jul-20-03 04:14 PM by annagull
The British who want answers, and to get rid of Blair, for the most part have to side with the Tories. The Tories will probably make huge gains in the next elections, unfortunatly for the Brits. At least here in the states this is the "All Republican Show". They control all branches of gov't, so they are the ones who will lose big in the next elections--unless things get so bad there is actually an impeachment in which case we will find Democrats in control of all branches of gov't before it's all over.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:19 PM
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6. In the parliamentary system...
the party can change the leader without the govt going down to defeat. Hopefully the British people will look at the revolt against Blair by labour MPs and if Labour is smart they will turf Blair and elect Cook or someone like him. If they do that soon then they can build up their support base again before a general election.


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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:28 PM
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7. Don't forget the LibDems who opposed the invasion and poll at 22%
...
The five-point boost in Tory fortunes in the ICM's monthly voting intentions will fuel the feeling that the Conservatives are on a roll. But the ICM six monthly rolling averages for January to June this year suggest that it is instead the Liberal Democrats who are squeezing Labour.
...
The six monthly figures give Labour an average 40% share of the vote this year - its worst showing since 1993. The Conservatives are on 31% - unchanged from last year - and the Lib Dems on 22%, their best showing since 1993.
There are many more Tory/Liberal Democrat marginal seats than Lib Dem/Labour ones, so it is not necessarily good news for the Tories.
...
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/story/0,9061,9838...
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:41 PM
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8. Thanks Spazito and w4rma--good news!
Edited on Sun Jul-20-03 04:42 PM by annagull
Good to hear the Liberal Dems are making some inroads. I had also heard before that Labor could throw Blair overboard and still retain their majority, but at the time this was considered highly unlikely (before the war). Now that this war is turned into a huge mess, maybe Labor will toss him. I foresee a huge govermental "house cleaning" coming to pass here in the States, in Britian and in Austrailia--get out your Hoovers!

edit:subject line
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:14 PM
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5. This is interesting a Conservative doing the right thing
:bounce: or is this the plan Bush had all along Destroy Blair!

:bounce:
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mefoolonhill Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:45 PM
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10. blair
The Bush administration has agreed not to go ahead and try 2 British citizens in a military tribunal. There has been widespread outrage in Great Britian over the fact that the suspects were not likely to be afforded an opportunity to defend themselves properly. My cynical calculation here is that Bush understands that Blair is now VERY vulnerable, and he needs all the help he can get. If Blair goes down, guess who's next?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 05:53 PM
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14. Yeah, so Bush lays off the British but what about the poor slob
Afghanis who might like some justice as well?

I'm surprised we haven't heard Islamic voices pointing out the obvious
"favortism" being shown here.....
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 05:00 PM
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11. Is he the nasty fellow
who was grilling Kelly? Dark hair, obnoxious personality?
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LivingInTheBubble Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 05:29 PM
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12. No.
IDS is almost the opposite of that guy. He looks like he crawled out from under a rock.
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myomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 05:52 PM
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13. Mileage in the UK could only help us here in the US.
Something big is needed to herd the sheeple over here. Go for it Conservatives.
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