Make it a crime to be gay: (Canadian) Alliance MP - Must Read!

[Screaming Lord Byron]

Make it a crime to be gay: Alliance MP

Canadian Alliance MP Larry Spencer, his party's family issues critic, says he'd support any initiative to put homosexuality back in the Criminal Code of Canada. The U.S.-born former Baptist pastor also argues that the gay- rights movement's recent successes in areas like same-sex marriage stem from a "well-orchestrated ... conspiracy" that began in the 1960s. Full Story

http://www.canada.com/national/story.asp?id=9D91AA32-6859-457E-80E3-E90BEA944031

And you thought the US had the monopoly on wankers. This guy is MP for Regina-Lumsden-Lake Centre in Saskatchewan. He has to be brought down, and fast.

[Deja Q]

1. US-born, eh?

The fascist bass turd should go back to America where he's more likely to belong.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

3. This is the worst comment I have seen in years in Canadian Politics.

This guy thinks that Canada is soon to legalise Pedophilia. 12,585 people voted for this demented jerk. They should be deeply ashamed. He must be removed. Thankfully he has a very small majority over the NDP.

[arwalden]

2. This Is Why I Despise Fundamentalists...

... and some people STILL don't understand why I hate them so much. Good grief!

-- Allen

[Swede]

33. We have our facist idiots here in Canada too.

Thank goodness the idiot outed himself for what he is.

[Spazito]

4. People like this wing-nut is why the Alliance will ALWAYS be...

a marginal, regional party. As usual, members of this repub-lite party are so far out of the mainstream regarding what Canadians believe.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

5. This is huge. Harper must sack him now. A by-election must be forced.

If Harper doesn't sack him, we have to come down like a ton of bricks on the CA.

[Spazito]

9. It will be interesting to see what Harper does with this....

given the upcoming federal election and the takeover of the Conservative party. Thanks for posting this, I hadn't seen it.

[AntiCoup2K4]

6. This guy's a "repub-lite"??

Geez, then what do the real fascists in Canada want? The death penalty for homosexuals?

We had a fundie grandma that ran for governor here a few years back who is alleged to have said exactly that. Not during the campaign of course.

[Spazito]

8. No, he isn't repub-lite, but his party is...

he is going to cause them no end of trouble with an election upcoming early next year. His timing is excellent, for the Liberals and BAD news for his party! The Alliance is racist, homophobic in it's nature and that's why they are a marginal party, polling at about 13% and this will bring that # down.

[OneBlueSky]

7. hey, if Bush is re-selected, you can probably count on . . .

some kind of similar initiative in the US Congress . . . don't think so? . . . bookmark this post and check back in a couple of years . . .

[Tommy_Douglas]

10. Wow...

Nice to see that crap like that can still land a seat in my beloved socialist province. Maybe we should deport him Ashcroft style back to the States. Sorry fellow DU Americans but we don't want him.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

11. You're in Saskatchewan? I don't suppose you can do anything

to embarass this jerk, can you?. I'm ashamed to share a country with him.

[Tommy_Douglas]

14. That I am...

I already sent an email to the Alliance letting them know when a dog craps on the floor you clean it up. Time to clean up the party floor.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

15. Good. Thanks for that. If they don't drop him quick, they'll be in serious

trouble come election time. Still, I firmly believe that the NDP will retake the seat next year.

[Melsky]

16. We don't want him either

hopefully he will get a time machine for Christmas, so he can go back to 1940s Germany where he belongs.

[jonoboy]

12. we can always tolerate one ratbag..

he makes everyone else look ok !

[Screaming Lord Byron]

13. That might be the problem. If this guy's thinking it, you can be sure

there's another dozen Alliance MP's thinking it.

[xchrom]

17. they're everywhere

a lunatic with public office.
it just gets so tiring after a while.
stupid, vicious cretin -- please canadians send him back to what ever rock he crawled out from -- blech.

[drb]

18. Just get somebody to hold a press conference...

...and claim to be his long-term gay lover. Just say that rat-bag got dumped and that's why he's bitter about gays.

Make disparaging comments about the size of his package, as the reason he got dumped.

[Maple]

19. Interesting timing on this

Right before the PC/CA merger vote...something that might rightfully scare the PCs out of sharing the party with this kind of nutbar...and close to an election so the seat will likely go NDP next time around.

Harper is between a rock and a hard place today. :D

[Screaming Lord Byron]

20. Yeah. The timing is marvellous.

Here's CTV on what David Orchard has to say on it.

'Meanwhile, some are waiting to hear what Harper has to say about comments from Alliance MP Larry Spencer, who said he would support any initiative to outlaw homosexuality.

Spencer, a U.S.-born former Baptist pastor, said a conspiracy has led to the seduction and recruitment of young boys in playgrounds and locker rooms. He was later fired.

In response Thursday, Orchard said the comments are typical of those made by the Alliance on a number of issues, including Atlantic Canada, women, immigrants and French-speaking Canadians.

"That's why this party is doomed, and that's why we'll be doomed if we follow it."'

He's their fuckin' Family Affairs critic. Nice fuckin' choice.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

21. Update - Harper fires him

VANCOUVER - Alliance Leader Stephen Harper Thursday fired MP Larry Spencer as family issues critic after Spencer said homosexuality should be outlawed. Spencer has resigned from caucus.

Harper said Spencer's remarks on homosexuality were totally unacceptable and do not reflect the party's stance on gays.

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/11/27/alliance031127

[Maple]

22. Thank you!

However he's only fired from his family affairs post.

Now they can fire his ass from the party...permanently.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

23. Nothing else will do.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

24. He's 'voluntarily' withdrawn himself from the CA caucus.

And will issue a full 'apology'.

Still, the mask is off.

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20031127.wgayy1126/BNStory/National/

[Maple]

25. Yes

because you know he isn't the only one in that party who thinks like this.

We could end up with 3 parties out of this rather than a new 'unified' one....old embittered Reform, new party...and remaining PCs.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

26. I see this impacting on the Alliance's chances at the next election.

They've been trading off the whole 'Western Alienation' business for so long, that real attention has not been paid to their social views, which are way out of step with mainstream Canadian opinion. They're vulnerable and are likely to lose seats in 2004. I wonder what this does to the merger next month?

[Maple]

27. I'd like to think

this kills any merger...but there are lots of people chomping at the bit over the idea of a 'united right', figuring it will sell.

It won't...but some people have to learn the hard way.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

28. I see the merger happening, only because the CA will swamp the PC

with members. That's OK, it'll still be the Canadian Alliance. How can MP's like PC Scott Brison, who's gay share a party with people like this?

[Tommy_Douglas]

29. Only Albertan's care about Western Alienation anymore...

It's obvious the Alliance does nothing for the west but make us look like closed minded rednecks. Time to give them the punt. If the merger occurs I hope Mark Brison can come out on top for the leadership. He's surprisingly enough a social liberal that's for gay marriage and decriminalization.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

30. Actually, I want Harper to win. Then it's obvious what this all was about.

What they call a hostile takeover. The right cannot be united because it already is united as the CA. I don't see what any PC supporter gets out of this other than money to finance a bankrupt cause. This new party will just be the Reform Party v.3 with similar results.

[Maple]

32. That's what gave

the 'Reform' party it's initial appeal.

'The west wants in'

And we all figured, 'Terrific'! 'Great idea!'

Then it degenerated into a bigotted right wing nightmare.

Canada cares about the west, and definitely wants it 'in'

But please...get rid of the CA...they're killing you!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

31. The Canadian Alliance is Canada's...

Nazi Party!

[Screaming Lord Byron]

34. Here's some comment from the public off of canada.com

'I only wish that more of us who know the truth would stand up and take a stand like Larry has...hats off to him for putting his job on the line for what he believes! It's time we start making as much noise as the gay community and try to save our future.' Jody, BC

'At a boy Larry Spencer.Way to tell it like it is.Here's a man who knew he would pay a price for his views and unlike the other jellyfish MP's,he had the guts to say it.' George, London

'I always find it interesting that we have the freedom of choice and or speech, as long as we agree with those who are doing what we don't like or approve of. Why am I not allowed to stand up and say what I believe, what I accept, and what I approve of. rather than some perverts freedom, we should be thinking about our children, our families, and be allowed to do what we want to do, to prevent these things from going down the toilet with the rest of the minority noise makers. ' Keith, Vernon


'I totally agree with Mr. Spencer and I congratualte him for his courage and sincerity. Why isn't he allowed to express his opinions and beliefs in public while gays display their homosexuality with no restraint? ' Farid, Ottawa

'I do believe that homosexuality should be outlawed and made illegal. I believe as a society we are going down the tubes so to speak. The Bible speaks out about how homosexuality is evil. We need to use the Bible in making our laws in this country. Larry Spencer I am pleased to see you stand up for what is good and honorable.' Michael, Edmonton

Most comment however was anti-bigot, thankfully.

[Maple]

35. Standard CA tactic

Post a few things like that so it looks like there is widespread support when there isn't.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

36. Hey! Larry's just standing up for what's 'good and honourable'!

Jesus, these CA fuckers are messed up.

[HEyHEY]

37. How....out of touch is this party?

Seriously when are they gonna realize grandstanding on such issues as if they were in the U.S. only looses them votes? Oh well, better for the libs.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

38. No country has a monopoly on ignorance and hate... Yet.

We're working on it down here.

[rman]

39. right. so now the RW does believe in conspiracies

interesting