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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:25 PM
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Tony Blair is certain, history will forgive the USA and Great Britain
Tony Blair is certain, history will forgive the USA and Great Britain

British Prime Minister Tony Blair's visit to the USA did not have any other goal, but to demonstrate the unity of interests of the British prime minister and the American president regarding the Iraqi issue and the struggle with the international terrorism. Against the background of continuing scandals, connected with the motives that made the leaders of the two countries attack Iraq, they have nothing left to do but to exercise the support to each other. However, in his speech to American Congress, Blair avoided the issue concerning weapons of mass destruction, which have not been found in Iraq. The British prime minister instead focused in higher ideals

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Such things are not really relevant now. Justifying the war in Iraq is a matter for George W. Bush and Tony Blair. On the other hand, there is a problem with Iraq, because the country will most likley not become a democracy. Last week, the Senate demanded George W. Bush should ask the UN and NATO for help for the regulation of the Iraqi issue. Spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, Alexander Yakovenko stated yesterday that the department did not rule out a possibility for Russian peacemakers to be present in Iraq (suppoted by UN Security Council resolution). However, Yakovenko stressed "we are currently not considering any opportunity for Russian peacemakers to be a part of the coalition forces in Iraq." Yet, Russia stands for the UN's more active participation in the stabilizing the Iraqi problem.

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The USA is gradually coming to the same idea too, as there is no other way for Washington to go. India and Pakistan, for example, stated that they would agree to dispatch their soldiers to Iraq only if the UN approved it. Colin Powell has already had consultations on the issue with foreign ministers of several countries. For the time being, American officials continue saying they have not taken any official measures concerning the UN's participation in Iraqi affairs.

Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov said one should pass the new UN resolution on Iraq: "Most likely, an additional resolution will be needed, both about the political regulation and the presence of international security forces," the minister said. Ivanov added, the new resolution "would increase opportunities for a lot of countries to take part in the process."

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http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/368/10530_blair.ht...



It looks more & more obvious Colin Powell is going to have to go back to the UN to get the additional troops! Oh swallow hard the pride Bush!! and crawl back and BEG! :bounce:

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:32 PM
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1. Now, there's a campaign slogan worth running on!
"I'm sure history will forgive us."

That's darned persuasive, I have to admit.

:eyes:
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:46 PM
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2. Hey, that's good enough for me
After all, he couldn't say it if it wasn't true, could he? Sheeeeiiit!
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baffie Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:47 PM
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3. Only if his people get to write it. Otherwise
he and the Bushies will be thrown in with all other leaders who caused the slaughter of thousands for their own personal reasons.

I like Blair, and I'd like to think he was just an innocent guy duped by the Bushies. But I'm beginning to wonder...
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:59 PM
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4. history will forgive us...
because we will rewrite the history books, like the genocide of native peoples here in this country and the New World in general... here in el paso they are spending 2.5 million dollars for a mochismo 30 foot statue of a spanish invader, that enslaved, murdered and tortured the local natives chopped their feet off if they tried to escape from the institutional slavery of the catholic church mission system. History is an easy thing to change. you dont even have to change it, it can just be ignored like the genocides in africa and the genocide of the people of Tibet and their culture and religion. over 1.6 million Tibetans, nearly 25%, have been murdered by the goverment of china thru murder, starvation, forced labor death camps and distruction of housing and shelter during winter. its easy, thru the Fascist association of busisness and goverment control the media and publication of information.
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:03 PM
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5. that's what anybody would say when shown to be wrong...

Why does HISTORY have to vindicate Blair and Chimpy? Why isn't the wisdom of their actions inherently apparent? Lord knows, they're SO ROCK SOLID sure they're doing the right thing.

You would think it would be readily apparent. But it's not, so they have to fall back on this lame argument.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:11 PM
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6. Since he can't prove anything in the past he looks to the future
for new lies. And Bliar says...now prove me wrong! :evilgrin:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:53 PM
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7. Will history forgive him for being wrong about history forgiving him?
:shrug:
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:58 PM
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8. will the thousands who died because of his lies, also forgive him?
oh who cares, they're dead and can't vote.
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losthope Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 02:08 PM
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9. He also promised
they would find the weapons of mass distruction
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 03:34 PM
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10. Means nothing
"History" is an abstract noun. Blair's babbling is completely devoid of any meaning. Will there be a ceremony at 10 Downing Street when Mr. History offers his formal forgiveness?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:47 PM
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11. and Hitler was positive his reich would last for over a thousand years!
Dream on, Poodle boy!
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 05:00 PM
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12. I was waiting for him to say We are on a Mission from God
and then put on his sunglasses!

More like Rose Colored glasses :bounce:
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 05:45 PM
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13. "forgiveness" implies they did something wrong. . . .
. . . .something that they need to be forgiven for.

It would have been entirely different if Blair had said "History will vindicate us and prove that we were right"; instead he seems to be admitting in a pathetic and round-about that they (he and *) did something wrong.

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 06:02 PM
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15. I never heard it that way - thanx!
"When you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, and you wish to get out, it's best to stop digging."
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myomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 05:52 PM
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14. Do we have time to wait for history?
.
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