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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 10:35 AM
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Exclusive: The 9-11 Report: Slamming the FBI

http://www.msnbc.com/news/941425.asp


" The report, one congressional investigator said, is a scathing indictment of the FBI as an agency that doesnt have a clue about terrorism. Furious bureau officials say the report misstates the evidence. They say the bureau checked out al-Bayouminow back in Saudi Arabiaand concluded he had not given the hijackers material support. As for Almihdhar and Alhazmi, there was nothing there that gave us any suspicion about these guys, said one FBI official. "


I thought the FBI was "complaining" about their efforts to investigate terrorism...wasn't that the issue from Coleen Rowley (FBI whistleblower)....looks like FBI is the 911 scapegoat.





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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 10:39 AM
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1. Oh they could have done the job
however they were told to back off.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 10:41 AM
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2. Something has to be the "scapegoat". It can't be because
chimpy & crew were Asleep at the Wheel... Ignoring the "Hart Rudman Report" and were guilty of Mass Negligent Homicide!
:kick:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 10:58 AM
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3. wasn't the FBI told to "back off" Saudi investigations?!?
I have read that time and again since Sept. 11, most recently in Greg Palast's lastest interview. Will this come out in the investigation? I won't hold my breath... :grr:
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:04 AM
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4. John O'Neill was told to back off by Barbara Bodine
I believe it was Bodine, if not someone else. Anyway, we all know what happened to him.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:11 AM
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8. Hey, wait just a damn minute.
What about those 3 whistleblower agents who tried to get their superiors to listen? In fact, they were so alarmed that they went over their supervisor's heads to send the stuff to Washington and were STILL told to shut up and go away??

The question is: who told their supervisors to back off and stop the investigations. Sounds like the FBI, the agents at least, were doing their jobs.
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Wonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:42 AM
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16. FBI told to "back off" Saudi investigations
Yes and to my knowledge that is all that investigation revealed: that someone at a higher level did IN FACT impede the FBI investigators the field as Charlotte Ramsey had accused. Once again however, they failed to push it and we were never to exactly WHO at the highest level impeded this investigation or WHY they wanted it impeded.

All the investigations thus far are strangely inconclusive as far as real specifics involved. Why I don't have much hope regarding Uraniumgate either. They will just go to the edge, but no far...as per is usually the case.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:06 AM
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5. Do I not recall that counterintelligence was not among the AG's top ten
budget priorities before 9-11, despite the generally known growing threat posed by al Qeada, that considerable FBI resources had been recently dedicated to tracking down whores in New Orleans, raiding marijuna-for-medical-purposes-facilities in California, and smashing the right to die movement in Oregon? After all, we must keep our priorities in order. But there I go dwelling on minutiae and failing to give proper credit for the drafting of a very lengthy, complex, and convoluted Patriot Act (I) in but a few weeks, an Act which possibly infringes more liberties granted in the Bill of Rights than had heretofore been infringed in aggregate, a colossal achievement in such a short period of time. So let's give credit where credit is due.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:26 AM
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9. Only one thing for Bush to do
Promotions all around! :eyes:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:09 AM
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6. They'll blame
"child services" in every state before they're done. :eyes:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:10 AM
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7. why was the FBI stopped......should be the question....
"THE LONG-DELAYED 900-page report also contains potentially explosive new evidence suggesting that Omar al-Bayoumi, a key associate of two of the hijackers, may have been a Saudi-government agent, sources tell NEWSWEEK. The report documents extensive ties between al-Bayoumi and the hijackers. But the bureau never kept tabs on al-Bayoumidespite receiving prior information he was a secret Saudi agent, the report says"

Watch for the report this week and the timing of another "news item" to cover the "real news".
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Wonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:48 AM
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17. yes WHY was it stopped and WHO was responsible for stopping it
WHO AND WHY....

seems they never answer those questions...

This pissed me off when the findings of the investigation was first reported in 2002, got a vague mention. As I said just answered that YES indeed the field investigators WERE impeded. Did not go any farther than that AND as usual no even remembers it...

Look at the chinese ... in 10s of thousands protesting new legislation that they felt would infringe upon civil rights and freedom of speech. The chinese took to the street for a week... singing WE SHALL OVER COME...

what is up with Americans?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:41 AM
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10. Good, I was hoping they would piss off the FBI like they have the CIA
Someone is going to blow the cover on The Bush Crime Family's involvement with 9-11. Their little 'Pearl Harbor' for PNAC will see the light of day.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:57 AM
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11. Kick!
:dem:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:04 AM
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12. The two hijackers in San Diego
Are the same two that Prince Bandar's wife gave over $130,000 to!


http://www.msnbc.com/news/941425.asp

A few months after al-Bayoumi took them to San Diego, Almihdhar and Alhazmi moved into the house of a local professor who was a longtime FBI asset. The prof also had earlier contact with another hijacker, Hani Hanjour. But even though the informant was in regular touch with his FBI handler, the bureau never pieced together that he was living with terrorists.



The two guys in the MSNBC story are the same two guys in this story that was published in the Spectator last November.



Bush and the Saudi princess
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:04 AM
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13. OK, So when does the report come out?
The link comes from the July 28 issue of Newsweek..... What's up with the timing? Does this mean that congress will release the report this week? Then the magizine can publish the "news" after the official release date? .....My 2nd question is: Will this be the anti-chimp story of the week for this week? And what about the Cheney papers: when does that story hit the fan? I'm getting the impression that reporters are very cautious about checking their sources these days....I guess that I'm just hoping that the heat stays on & maybe even gets turned up.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:09 AM
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14. Short 28 pages the White House took out?
I actually heard that this morning on Fox but I can't find a link anywhere. Honest to God, one of the morning dolts mentioned it and said that it brings about questions of a cover-up.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:49 AM
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18. it's in the article (quote here)
http://www.msnbc.com/news/941425.asp#BODY

Questions about the Saudi role arose repeatedly during last years joint House-Senate intelligence-committees inquiry. But the Bush administration has refused to declassify many key passages of the committees findings. A 28-page section of the report dealing with the Saudis and other foreign governments will be deleted. They are protecting a foreign government, charged Sen. Bob Graham, who oversaw the inquiry.
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ward919 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:39 AM
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15. I thought the FBI's job was dometic crime and law and order
and that the CIA's job was international terrorism performed by international terrorists on our soil?
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