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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:35 AM
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CNN Int'l - 2 US Soldiers killed in ambush in Northern Iraq
breaking news, being reported by AP. Will look for link.
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:39 AM
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1. This is getting old.
I wish I could say something new or witty. This has happened so often now that words fail me. Somebody's loved one is coming home in a coffin and it just breaks me.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:41 AM
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2. Perhaps it's time to start asking questions...
as to why the returning coffins are off-limits to the media.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:43 AM
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3. It's also getting worse
They've got the routine down. Just because we got a dork for a President another life and another family is destroyed. The pain. Sickening.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 03:43 AM
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17. and the sheer torment
for the soldiers, their families and friends......it's killing me and I don't even know anyone there.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:45 AM
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4. Link from the Associated Press
And so it continues... :-(

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ_SOLDIER...

Excerpt:

Two soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division were killed and another wounded in northern Iraq early Sunday when their convoy was struck by rocket-propelled grenades and gunshots, the U.S. military said.

All three soldiers were rushed to a hospital, where two of them died, said Corp. Todd Pruden, a spokesman for the military in Baghdad.

The attack occurred near Tal Afar, just west of the northern city of Mosul and about 240 miles northwest of Baghdad, Pruden said. There were no reported enemy casualties and no arrests were made.


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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:49 AM
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6. And the president raised another $2 million dollars
Edited on Sun Jul-20-03 01:58 AM by Frances
on Saturday to bring his campaign total to over $40 million.

He should have to use that money for a trust fund for the families of the slain soldiers!

On edit: I deleted a word
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 02:24 AM
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15. I guess he's too busy to focus on the war.
Or the safety of the troops.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 06:29 AM
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23. Well, it's like he told Abbas...
(when God told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq) that he would be willing to help him and the Palestinians if they would get with the program, like now. If Abbas waited until just before the election, he could forget about Bush's help.

Hell, what do you expect from a one-track mind? That's what this creep was born to do, campaign. To hell with the "responsibilities" of being pRezident!

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 06:31 AM
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24. And someone named Kode something or another was arrested last week
Edited on Sun Jul-20-03 06:34 AM by NNN0LHI
Can't forget that. Now can we? Its big news. Top story and all.

Don

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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:49 AM
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5. One a day every day, since Chimp's aircraft carrier stunt
Hey, Chimpy, who's the next lucky family that gets to cry over a flag-draped coffin, so that your fat-cat oil buddies can sock a few more mill in their offshore accounts?

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED my ass.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:59 AM
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13. Bring em on
Bush said.
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OrAnarch Donating Member (433 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:50 AM
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7. "If only I had a dead soldier...
Edited on Sun Jul-20-03 01:51 AM by OrAnarch
for each lie Ive told, my Daddies friends would be rich men." - George W. Bush



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paper chase guy Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:51 AM
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8. sigh...
this is not the kind of drip drip drip any of us wanted.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 08:24 AM
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28. drip drip drip drip drip ....


just in case anyone missed this one
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:53 AM
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9. Bush challenge to Iraq attackers:
Bring them on


Fucking douchebag.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 06:08 AM
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20. A douchebag at least cleans
junior is lower than a toilet plunger.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 08:13 AM
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26. "Bring 'em on Bush" gets his wish. Again.
Did God tell Bush about this part?
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:54 AM
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10. We need to get back out on the streets for these guys
We need a "bring em home" rally.
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study_war_no_more Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:00 AM
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18. we need to tar and feather
Bush and CO.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:57 AM
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11. Violence is spreading to a larger area
<<Most of the recent violence has occurred in an area north and west of Baghdad called the Sunni triangle, where some support for Saddam Hussein remains. Mosul is north of the Sunni triangle and has not been the site of much previous violence.>>

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molok555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 06:22 AM
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21. As someone has pointed out
the so-called 'Sunni Triangle' that the media so hypes also happens to contain roughly 70% of Iraq's population. The rest of the country is desert.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 08:27 AM
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29. Mosul is a Kurdish area
One can only assume that the resistance to US occupation is nationwide and it involves the broad spectrum of Iraqi society.

The people shooting at US troops are not Saddam loyalists!
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:24 PM
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40. History repeats...
From an article by John Kifner in today's NYT:

"The public, the distinguished military analyst wrote from Baghdad, had been led "into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honor. They have been tricked into it by a steady withholding of information," he said. "The Baghdad communiqus are belated, insincere, incomplete. Things have been far worse than we have been told, our administration more bloody and inefficient than the public knows."

He added: "We are today not far from a disaster."

Sound familiar?

That was T. E. Lawrence Lawrence of Arabia writing in The Sunday Times of London on Aug. 22, 1920, about the British occupation of what was then called Mesopotamia. <snip>

Things were not going well for the British in Mesopotamia. Gertrude Bell was arbitrarily drawing lines on the map to make a new country out of three former Ottoman provinces Mosul in the north, Baghdad in the center and Basra in the south. The districts were composed, respectively, of Kurds, Sunni Muslims and Shiite Muslims, all of whom hated each other and the British even more.

By 1920, the country was in full rebellion, from Shiite tribesmen in the south to Kurds in the north. There were some 425 deaths on the British side and an estimated 8,000 to 10,000 among the Iraqis."
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44wax Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:57 AM
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12. How many more families will have to endure this kind of pain and suffering
before their loved ones come home? Where are the celebrity cheerleaders now? Are there any soothing the troops now? Somebody send Kid Rock and his punk ass back to Iraq and help tell the real story of what's going down there.
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 02:16 AM
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14. 2 more down
These 2 patriots were alive a few days ago and pissed about being deployed in Iraq. Now they're on their way home with a flag draped over their coffins. Fuck that goddamn, dickface.
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Alex88 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 02:52 AM
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16. What they're going through is foreign to President AWOL
We should work our way out of Iraq military and let the Iraq's control their own lives. They have inalienable rights too.
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PROUDNWLIBERAL Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:23 AM
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19. Hearts and Minds
Saw a piece on ABC News a couple of days ago: In Balad, Iraq, 4th division officer talking to Iraqs---'give information as to who mortored US soldiers or he would have tanks run over and ruin their fields and crush their houses. There will be a lot more dead Americans with this type of attitude. I'm sorry for the families of the dead soldiers, but I wonder how many of the families and soldiers support war with Iraq. Now the piper is being paid! I say get out now and give repreations to the Iraqi people. Then we need to do something about the dangerous right wing mentality that prevades our military.
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Mokito Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 06:24 AM
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22. Welcome to DU, PROUDNWLIBERAL!
Then we need to do something about the dangerous right wing mentality that prevades our military.

Oh, I think the *-cabal is being very helpful in resolving that matter for you.

And again...Welcome...here a gift :donut: You'll need it.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 08:00 AM
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25. Foolish Tactics
Looks like this is an idea taken from Sharon's tactics against the Palestinians. It hasn't worked for Israel and the U.S. Militiary is crazy if they think this type of threat or actually doing it will work. We are totally outnumbered in Iraq. If they do this I can only imagine the type of retribution he will bring down on his own men from the Iraqis.
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Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:54 PM
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39. Also see
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quilp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 08:22 AM
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27. When Todd Beamer said "let's roll" he was on the 'plane!
When our Commander in Chief said, "bring 'em on!" he was nowhere near Bagdad! That says it all!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 09:38 AM
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30. Told you so
Most of what I had predicted has come true now in Iraq. Also, as I had predicted the American public only wavered in their support when American casulties rose. I stand by my contention that the American public does not care about Iraqi civilian casulties.
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lightbulb Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:57 PM
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41. Many of us here in the American public do care
about Iraqi civilian casualties. In fact, I'd wager that most Americans reading DU are equally pained by every single injury or death this conquest has caused to either side. We may not be in the majority, but we are still very much members of the American public. Let us see what we can do about appealing to the hearts of the majority...

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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 10:04 AM
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31. StarsStripes-Landstuhl full, I bet Dover is too.
http://www2.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_article.php?articleId=...

BTW Iraqwar.ru reported 2 USdead 7/19. Iwonder if these are the same.
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rhino91063 Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 10:28 AM
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32. The right wing nuts are sensing disaster is on the horizon
Just look how they fret over at Freeper land.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/949363/posts
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Best_man23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 10:50 AM
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33. As the Freepers Turn
Thanks for the link, always fun to read.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:33 AM
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37. they are all nuts over there
talk about leveling cities??? I wonder if there are even 3 neurons firing among the entire collection of freepers..
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:07 AM
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34. In the Words of Marvin Gaye
Edited on Sun Jul-20-03 11:18 AM by Yavin4
"Mother, mother
There's to many of you crying
Brother, brother, brother
There's far too many of you dying
You know we've got to find a way
To bring some lovin' here today - Yah

Father, father
We don't need to escalate
You see, war is not the answer
For only love can conquer hate
You know we've got to find a way
To bring some lovin' here today"


He wrote that song about the Vietnam war. It's one of the most beautiful anti-war songs ever.
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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:14 AM
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35. Ironic...
Today a front page story in the Sunday Los Angeles Times gushes about how the Kurdish north is fast becoming a model of what a peaceful Iraq should be.

Not!
:7
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:31 AM
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36. When I woke up and saw this headline on CNN
My heart just sunk. you'd think i'd be used to it by now, almost every day there is a report of soldiers dying, but this one just got to me.

I gasped, and my 7 year old son, cuddling safely next to me in bed (thank God) asked what happened. I told him that 2 more soldiers died in Iraq, and he said "What? We aren't at war anymore!"

Sigh.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:44 PM
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38. "And so it goes..." getting like the Middle East where
the death and violence seems routine.

Of course, it is not routine and, in fact, would not be happening to US soldiers if not for bizaare election of 2000 which brought us The Worst President in United States History.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 03:01 PM
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42. Rummy's stragery: Hey, maybe they'll run out of RPG's soon... nt.
Sid
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