Oswald Brother Says There Was No JFK Plot

[kskiska]

NEW YORK (AP) - The shooting of President John F. Kennedy was not a political conspiracy but an almost spontaneous act by a troubled man who wanted attention, the brother of Lee Harvey Oswald says.

(snip)

``If you go right down the line and look at it, all the facts will point to Lee's involvement. Lee actually committed the crime, period,'' Robert Oswald told ABC.

(snip)

``The reason Lee went after the president is because of opportunity and no other. If he wasn't working where he was working or if the president's car wasn't going by there at that particular time, it wouldn't have happened. It wasn't a master plan or anything. There's no shadowy figures out there. He wanted to be somebody and this opportunity came about coincidentally, nothing planned, nothing organized.''

Asked about his brother's denial after his arrest, Robert Oswald, who wrote ``Lee: A Portrait of Lee Harvey Oswald'' but rarely gives interviews, said his brother ``was basically saying `I'm smarter than you. You gotta catch me.'''

Robert Oswald also described his last meeting with his brother, in jail the morning after Kennedy's death, a day before Lee Harvey Oswald was shot to death by nightclub owner Jack Ruby.

``I was looking into his eyes, searching for some sign,'' Robert Oswald told NBC. ``And he just looked back at me, and finally he said, 'Brother, you won't find anything there.' And he was absolutely correct. there was no emotion. There was no flicker in the eye.''

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[Media_Lies_Daily]

1. There's only one reason Robert Oswald is still alive...

...and this article proves it.

[He loved Big Brother]

3. I agree.

n/t

[aquart]

6. Just what I was about to say.

[goforit]

39. Yep...and Poppy wants to clear his own connection!........LOL!!!

And it will never be cleared!

[JanMichael]

2. Gee...How would HE know?

I guess we all have our own ways of coping with difficult situations.

[Gloria]

4. Don Hewitt oral history interview on CSPAN, just ended....very interesting

Done in 2002. In 63 he was producing the CBS Nightly News.

Hewitt revealed things I had never heard before...for example, that Jack Ruby knew Oswald's uncle. They were both "gangsters." Hewitt believes Ruby was hired to kill LHOswald to keep him quiet. He doesn't think Oswald was smart enought to lay out the whole assassination plot by himself.

Hewitt also related his conversations with a Republican member of the Warren Commission, someone really upstanding who told him that Nixon knew A LOT about how the assassination happened.

Hewitt doesn't believe Oswald acted alone. He also spoke about the hatred toward the Kennedys on the part of the families of those killed during the Bay of Pigs, since Kennedy decided not lend support by air.

He also said that Bobby Kennedy and the entire Kennedy family always said it "didn't matter" who killed JFK, it wouldn't bring him back. But Hewitt said that RFK also knew more than he would ever reveal.

Finally, he talked about later investigations about all this and Gloria Borger (of all people, when she was a real reporrter, I guess) had a story, but it was shut down. Hewitt said every time they had a lead, they were shut down.

Hewitt also said that things have been covered up because he thought that there would have been a "revolution" if the truth came out.

[Minstrel Boy]

5. this is how cover-ups work:

"Hewitt also said that things have been covered up because he thought that there would have been a "revolution" if the truth came out."

One needn't be a conspirator to do the conspirator's work of shielding Americans from the truth. One needn't even know the truth. One simply needs believe that it's in the "national interest" that Americans be persuaded of a fairy tale.

[Philostopher]

10. Gloria -- and others -- you may find this interesting.

I don't know how much validity to credit this web site, but when I saw what you wrote about Ruby and the Mafia, it reminded me I'd read this on a 'true crime' tabloid web site -- you'll all find it interesting who else they link to Ruby (not just Nixon, whose name is in the link):

http://crimemagazine.com/2003/richardnixon,20031014.htm

As I say, I don't know how much weight to give it -- I don't necessarily subscribe to any particular conspiracy theory -- but it is interesting, and ties together several different themes I've seen other people post here on DU who have other ideas than the one that's generally accepted.

I'm willing to admit there's plenty we probably will never verify about the Kennedy assassination, and definitely wouldn't be surprised to find out, ultimately, that conventional wisdom and 'what we've been told all along' might not have been completely accurate, or the whole story. Just thought you -- and others posting in this thread -- might find the collection of information interesting.

[FlaGranny]

15. Thanks for posting this link.

It has been no many years, I'd forgotten about Nixon and the Mob. Geez, what webs were woven.

Edit: That really brought back memories. A lot of the stuff in that article, I remember from news reports at the time. Amazing when all tied together with a time line. It also coincides with the The Men Who Killed JFK documentary report that Nixon attended a party in Dallas on Nov 21 with Johnson, Murcheson, et al.

[Gloria]

29. Nixon flew out of Dallas from Love Field 1 Hour

before Kennedy arrived....I found this out last night while watching Larry King with Nelly Connally...she was really interesting in her description of the assassination and what ensued....

The oral history thing on CSPAN was simply incredible...Dr. Carrico in the emergency room discusisng the head wound and Don Hewitt...

I forgot to mention that Hewitt had been married to a woman who had liasons with JFK in the White House!!

He also went into the Mafia connection, Sinatra, and a woman who looked like Oswald's wife(like a sister) who knew a whole lot about Oswald...

When I watched the repeat I caught the Nixon thing again: The man on the Warren Commission, who was asked about what Nixon knew replied: 'Oh, you don't want to know what Nixon knew!"

Hewitt also believes LBJ knew more about what went on than was revealed...He said LBJ later commented something to that effect.

Hewitt figures the Commission wanted to get it all out of the way, and later, when things cooled down, more truth would come out.

Sort of like what's going on with the 911 coverup...

[Piperay]

12. I heard that Nixon was always

interested in finding out what really happened to Kennedy and after he became President he began poking around into it. I have heard the theory that Watergate was a handy way to shut Nixon up about what he found regarding the Kennedy assasination. Possible???? :shrug:

[buycitgo]

14. rats!!!!!!!!

I saw Hewitt on and just flipped channels, assuming he was, like Rather, a coincidence whore.

sure hope the rerun that

[deutsey]

18. Supposedly, Haldeman says in his memoir

that when you hear Nixon on the Watergate tapes saying he was afraid the break-in could lead to revelations about "that Bay of Pigs thing", he was referring to the Kennedy assassination.

From TomPaine.com:

Those words come from Haldeman's memoir The Ends of Power, co-written with Joseph DiMona. Haldeman later repudiated the book and those words specifically. http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/3234

[aquart]

7. Okay, I love the "spontaneous" bit.

"Spontaneous" mail order gun?

[cosmicdot]

8. ``I was looking into his eyes, searching for some sign,''

Robert Oswald to told NBC. ``And he just looked back at me, and finally he said, 'Brother, you won't find anything there.'

what are you looking for?
I don't know, what do you think I'm looking for?
what are you trying to tell me?
let's not use words, just eyes? :wtf:
well, are you looking for guilt?
there's nothing there

:shrug:

btw - buy my book

[stopbush]

9. Jeb Bush says his brother is the best president, ever! n/t

[wtmusic]

11. Hey! There's $millions$ in conspiracy theory! How does ten percent sound?

:silly:

[Octafish]

22. That's why the NYT boosts turds like Gerald Posner.

In 1993, The New York Times devoted 75-percent of its space boosting the author of Case Closed and others who support the Oswald the Lone Nut Warren Commission. OTOH, dozens of authors who wrote about conspiracy had to share the 25-percent of remaining space. Perhaps you can see where the NYT wants the money to go.

[devinsgram]

13. Of course he would say that,

it keeps him in the limelight and he would say anything for that to continue. You can see by watching him that he loves all the attention. I don't believe a word he says.

[deutsey]

16. Reflections on the 40th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/nov2003/jfk-n22.shtml

SNIP
Nonetheless, the assassination of Kennedy was a political act whose aim was to shift the policies of the US government to the right. The conspiracy succeeded in accomplishing its aims. Moreover, it ushered in a period of politics by assassination that effectively eliminated some of the most effective leaders of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party and the mass movement for civil rights—Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy.

Kennedy’s death marked the effective end of the Democratic Party as it had emerged from the New Deal. From 1963 onward, liberalism was dead on its feet. Increasingly, the policies of both major parties were marked by a shift to open reaction.

Present-day political life in America represents the victory of the very forces that were involved in—and celebrated—the 1963 assassination. The political underworld of CIA assassins, gangsters and criminal elements within the ruling elite with which the Kennedy administration worked behind the scenes have now come forward to openly claim the levers of state power.

[Gloria]

31. Hewitt also went off-topic on how Kennedy-Nixon

really changed politics in the country.

Kennedy at the debates, esp. the first debate, was so handsome and charismatic, so unlike any other candidate for President...Hewitt recalls how TV execs saw political coverage for the first time as a way of getting ad money...and from that point, no one could get elected without spending a lot of money for TV ads.
Hewitt said Kennedy was the right man to win, but he won for the wrong reasons.
He won because of his image.
Esp. in the first debate. Nixon didn't realize what was going on. They thought it was just another appearance. His people thought his make up looked fine...Hewitt had asked them, because he could see he looked awful.
Kennedy, looked tan from being out in CA campaigning in an open car, refused make up (only later did Hewitt learn that he had been made up by his own people!!!)
Hewitt recalls how Kennedy looked--he was blown away and Hewitt says that was the moment politics changed.

Hewitt continued to rant about the money spent on campaigns. Called Mitch McConnell an idiot, for saying that limiting spending "denies a candidate free speech rights".

Hewitt was amazing....one would wish 60 Minutes would reflect more of his obvious skepticism about the political situation we have here in the US

[FlaGranny]

17. Do you realize that there is so much

"circumstantial" evidence in the Kennedy assassination that it is overwhelming? No matter what you believe about the assassination, you must admit that there's plenty there for a grand jury to send the case to trial, even though you might not be able to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.

Added to everything in the Nixon article mentioned in one of the posts above, the fact that G. Bush was in Dallas that day, Johnson was there, Nixon was there, oil man Murcheson, and the mob and CIA stuff, what we have today in the White House makes ever so much sense.

Edit: If there was anyone who hated Kennedy as much as the mob and Nixon, it was probably Johnson. I remember, at the time, being quite shocked that Kennedy chose Johnson for VP. The hatred at the time was palpable.

[LarryTheTiger]

19. Why do people care?

There are hundreds of "assassinations" everyday that no one gives a shit about that, but I do. I care about people I know, not some rich white man who most people don't know on a personal level.

[TruthIsAll]

20. You are probably a very young person who knows nothing about history

You ask: why do we care?

I ask:: who the hell are you to even ask the question?

Eight posts. Eight posts. Eight posts. Eight posts. Eight posts. Eight posts. Eight posts. Eight posts. Eight posts. Eight posts.

Yes...Eight posts.

[truth2power]

25. I concur, TruthIsAll

That poster must be very young, very naive, or....

I remember the day Kennedy was assassinated. That was the beginning of the end for our democracy as far as I am concerned. In the 60's they killed just about everyone who was trying to make this world a better place.

And I will NEVER believe Oswald was the prime mover in all this.

Edit: stupid typo. Can't spell naive.

[FlaGranny]

21. Would you care if one of the people you most

admired was murdered?

[Octafish]

23. Possibly Republicans neo-cons don't care.

... That's because Liberals believe the power of government can improve the lives of ALL citizens. That's what JFK believed and he worked to make this a better country from education, to housing, to jobs...he thought that's the least a rich white man could do. As President, he thought we could accomplish the impossible, so he set the nation on a course to go to the moon, demonstrating free people are first technologically and heroically.

Conservatives, OTOH, are cheap bastards. They think all these government programs cost them money. They prefer to kill, through assassination or neglect, politicians who want to accomplish any things. That way they can save their money from the tax man. It's not too odd to see do what they must to keep their children out of the draft.

[Selwynn]

27. How old are you?

100 bucks says you weren't born when either kennedy was shot.

[Piperay]

32. I'm sure those

on the other side don't care, infact most likely they are very glad that it happened. Democrats should care though because our party from then has been hogtied and the ones responsible shouldn't get away with it.

[leesa]

24. Oh well, I'm convinced! Geesh! What's next in the Cabals efforts

NOT to look to deeply into this. Just like the 9-11 cover-up....will people still be waiting for the investigation of 9-11 40 years from, now?

[Selwynn]

26. Of course LHO killed JFK - the issue is that its not possilbe he did so...

..in the way we are officially told he did so, and it is literally scientifically unlikely (the probabilty ridiculousness of the single bullet theory) that he acted alone.

[goforit]

40. Thank you thank you thank you!!!.............Well stated!!!

Facts are facts.....neo-cons!!!

[lumpy]

28. PBS Frontline special on Lee Oswald last Thurs.

His history from birth to death and beyond. The guy really got around connecting with the anti-Castros, pro-castros, Communists, Russians and possibly covert US agencies. Was kept watch on by the FBI, CIA and anyone else who was interested in the man. Oswald just didn't jump out of the woodwork. He was well known by so many power people, amazing that anyone could believe he was a nobody with wacked out ideas. But ultimately that might have been exactly the truth.
After seeing this extensive examination of Oswald, the possibility that he acted alone still remains. Who really knows the truth?

[Gloria]

30. Interesting fact is that right after the assassination

the Russian amb., I believe it was the amb., went to LBJ in the White House with a file on Oswald and told LBJ that Oswald "was not one of theirs". Remember, we were in the middle of the Cold War/nuclear thing at the time.....

So, Russia was anxious to defuse any possible situation by rushing to tell LBJ that they had not sent Oswald to do the job...

[Rex]

33. LH Oswald denied killing Kennedy because he had a master plan

not to get caught? That's why he went and watched a movie, waiting for police to come in and arrest him. And of course they knew he was there because...

[kcwayne]

34. They knew he was there because

eye witnesses to the Tippit murder reported someone with Oswald's description, and someone (I think it was the ticket taker at the movie house) reported someone matching that description going into the Texas Theater.

[Rex]

36. Oh that's right, I forgot that he shot a cop

It's truly amazing how they zeroed in on Oswald, I wonder if they ever gave the ticket taker a medal?

[kcwayne]

37. When they first arrested Oswald,

they didn't claim he was Kennedy's assassin, they arrested him as a cop killer.

What is amazing is how quickly the full background expose of Oswald developed. I went through the Dallas Library's newpaper archives from just before the assasination until the furor died down.

In the Sunday morning paper, they had several pages of background on Oswald that was truely astounding. It looked like a press release package had been prepared on Oswald, and as soon as his name surfaced, it was distributed world wide by Saturday afternoon.

Somebody in government had a deep file on Oswald prior to the assassination.

[colorado_ufo]

38. Oswald denied shooting the cop.

[BonjourUSA]

35. The equation is very simple...

1 sniper = possible lonesome act
2 snipers = plot

The video of the shooting clearly shows two shots. The first from behind and the President's head is projected ahead, the second from the front and his head is projected behind