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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:30 AM
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Dean repeats call for Iraq troop drawdown
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In his party's weekly radio address Saturday, Howard Dean said the Republican plan of "stay the course" is not an option in the 3-year-old war and emphasized the Democratic call for a phased withdrawal of U.S. troops to begin by year's end.

He also rejected the Republican criticism that Democrats want to "cut and run."

"Among the victims are brave American soldiers who are the targets of an insurgency because of failed political leadership and a lack of foresight and planning," Dean said. "We don't want another wall with 55,000 names of courageous Americans who were let down by their government."

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Dean added that phrases such as "peace is at hand" and "the insurgency is in its last throes" are made by what he called an increasingly desperate administration.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060624/ap_on_go_co/democrats_iraq
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:32 AM
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1. Full text:
Good morning. This is Governor Howard Dean.

Nearly four years into the war in Iraq, over 2500 brave American soldiers have been killed, more than 20,000 brave American soldiers have been wounded, and $2.5 billion dollars are being spent every week as sectarian violence continues. Corruption and fraud are rampant, and the overall quality of life for the Iraqi people has not improved. Religious fanatics harass women and business owners just yards from the green zone in Baghdad and renegade militia within the Iraqi army are fomenting civil war.

In the meantime, the Bush Administration has left Afghanistan exposed to a resurgence of the Taliban and Al Qaeda; and taken its eye off the ball in places like North Korea and Iran which have now become greater threats.

Those are the facts on the ground.

The bottom line is that the Republicans don't have a plan. 'Stay the course' is not a plan. Saying the problems in Iraq will be left to the next President, is not a plan. Our troops deserve better.

Democrats are determined to set a different course for our Nation, to tell the truth to the American people, to save the lives of our American soldiers and keep America safe. We want to act now rather than let political wrangling lead to more dead and wounded Americans.

We will defend America, but we will be tough and smart.

A majority of democrats have called upon the President to change course in Iraq. Democrats have also offered a plan that asks the president to responsibly redeploy our troops. We believe that we ought to focus on training, logistics, and counter-terrorism, and we can do that with a redeployment of our troops.

The phased re-deployment strategy proposed by Democrats this week calls on the President to do the following:

· First, work with the Government of Iraq to begin a phased redeployment of United States troops from Iraq by the end of this year;

· Second, submit a plan to Congress by the end of 2006 with estimated dates for the continued phased redeployment of United States forces from Iraq;

· Third, we have also told the President that we demand accountability for the resources being spent in Iraq. The cost of the Iraq war will be at least one trillion dollars, enough to finance a health care program for every single American - including our veterans coming home from the war.

· Fourth, expedite the transition of United States forces in Iraq to a limited presence and mission of training, providing logistical support, protecting United States infrastructure and personnel, and participating in targeted counterterrorism activities.

· Finally, our plan recognizes that during and after the phased redeployment of United States forces from Iraq, the United States will need to sustain a non-military effort to actively support reconstruction, governance, and a durable political solution in Iraq.

The Iraqi leaders themselves have set a six-month goal for assuming their responsibility for security. Our proposal for the beginning of a phased redeployment by the end of this year fits the goals of Iraq's leaders very well.

We have asked Republicans of good will to come forward to support a policy that is good for America and good for our troops. And some have.

Democrats will continue to offer America a real change, a new direction for our country. We see a country in which honesty, openness and respect is restored to our government. We see an America where we are all on the same team again, working together to deal with problems American Families face, Defense, Security, Health Care, Jobs. We see an America where the Government does not question the patriotism of any American if they disagree with the President.

The parallels between the mistakes being made today in Iraq and the behavior of our government a generation ago are striking. Troops are sent to fight by an administration that refuses to listen to the advice of military leaders. The Administration decides it's ok to conceal information from the Congress and the American people. Promises like "stay the course" "Peace is at Hand" or "the insurgency is in its last throes" are made by an increasingly desperate Administration.

A majority of the American people don't believe the President is telling the truth, while the Administration and its supporters question the patriotism of veterans who disagree with them, accusing them of "cut and run".

And among the victims are brave American soldiers who are the targets of an insurgency because of failed political leadership and a lack of foresight and planning. We don't want another wall with 55,000 names of courageous Americans who were let down by their Government.

The words "cut and run" don't belong in this debate. That's a disservice to our courageous soldiers. This debate is about not making the same mistakes our Government made a generation ago.

Democrats believe it's time for a new direction in Iraq that's tough and smart, and we offer America a security strategy that's tough and smart.

This is Gov. Howard Dean proud of our troops, and proud to be part of a party offering America a new direction.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 01:38 PM
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8. Thank you for
the full text!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:37 AM
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2. Good. This is exactly what he should do. Thanks Howard.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:21 AM
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3. K & R
We were looking for a unified stance.
This is IT.

I have printed the text of the full address,
kindly provided by mainedem, for distribution
to all my dem co-worker (and some straddlers).

Put Senators
Lieberman
Nelson
Nelson
Landrieu
and Dayton

ON NOTICE.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:38 AM
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4. Whatwhatwhat? Dean's sticking with his position?
Doesn't he know that that's cutting and running? All the Republicans say so! And even though a strong majority of Americans agree with Dean that it's time and past time to start getting the hell out of Iraq, doesn't Dean know that once the Republicans say something, the debate is over? What's the matter with Dean? Is he trying to start an opposition party or something? Will he scream again? What's the matter with him? He's an appeaser, that's what he is.

There Dean bashers. I just saved you all the time to make your countless predictable and wrong posts. Go out and mow the lawn or something.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:12 PM
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5. Recommended.
Clear and direct.

"Dean added that phrases such as "peace is at hand" and "the insurgency is in its last throes" are made by what he called an increasingly desperate administration."
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:24 PM
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6. Leave Bush's Folly now! nt
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:31 PM
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7. Dean's proposal is not acceptable to me....
First and foremost, I do not accept any "phased redeployment," which is just a euphemism for "making it look like we're not in a hurry to leave." Absolutely nothing can be accomplished by staying longer than it takes to minimally pack up and leave-- nothing but more unnecessary death and destruction-- so there is simply no reason to "redeploy" over a period extending beyond six months, as in this statement.

This is the first, and biggest problem with all such "plans." It's a smokescreen for political cover, for keeping up appearances. We don't want to admit to being in the wrong, so we'll take our time about stopping the crime. Ultimately, that bit is more about covering the asses of politicians than about doing the right thing, and I simply cannot accept the deaths of more innocent Iraqis as the price of preserving the political dignity of preening American "leaders."

Second, Dean's plan implicitly recognizes a permanent U.S. presence in Iraq, hidden behind a new rationale. This might dress the PNAC plans for Iraq a little differently, but it maintains the essential goal of permanent U.S. hegemony. Dean's "non-military effort to actively support... the Iraqi government" will presumably be run from the new palace compound in Baghdad-- the embassy to end all embassies-- with logistical support from U.S. troops stationed at some of those permanent military bases in Iraq. It's ludicrous to believe that any truly non-military role for the U.S. is possible in an Iraq where Americans cannot travel around the block without armored convoys and air support.

Third, although it implies otherwise, Dean's statement presupposes that the puppet government beholden to the U.S. will continue to rule in Iraq. I call this the "Siagon deception." Without a continual military presence in Iraq-- either a home-rolled military dictatorship or a continued occupation-- the Iraqi government will be swept aside. The U.S. interests that the Dean statement implicitly acknowledges will be swept aside too, or will have to be reconsidered in a very different environment.

The truth is that America has terminally destabilized Iraq. Perhaps the goals that U.S. politicians pursue now might have been achieved under Saddam Hussein or some other strong central government, but they will never be attained under the chaos of insurrection and civil war. We fucked it up beyond repair. We need to recognize that and work within that framework-- not keep trying new flavors of the old PNAC dream of maintaining U.S. hegemony in the region through military or political coersion.

We must begin an immediate and unconditional removal of ALL U.S. personnel from Iraq. Abandon the bases, the embassy, the garrison zones, etc. We must face the fact that we are responsible for the chaos that will result in the vacuum we leave behind, and perhaps try to make reparations later.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:42 PM
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10. The Cheney/Rumsfeld administration has
fucked this up so badly that there is no good answer.

Leave immediately and perhaps civil war engulfs Iraq

or

Phased redeployment/withdrawal which kills some from all sides

or

Stay the course which kills many from all sides.


Winning anything is off the table.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:01 PM
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11. mike c, thank you for your post.
It is good to read a cogent argument written so masterfully, and without flame-throwing. My nephew is in Iraq right now, so I read every thread on Iraq with interest, and tears when when I read of more troop deaths. I marched in D.C. against the war, and I want the troops home. I am so confused about the best way to end our deadly course in Iraq. Dean makes sense to me, but you do too. Mostly, I am
furious at the lies, and the caskets- both soldiers and citizens. It all feels so out of control......
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:41 PM
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9. Kicked and recommended!
:kick:
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