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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 04:51 PM
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U.S. Nixes N. Korea Bid for Missile Talks
SEOUL, South Korea Jun 21, 2006 (AP)— North Korea called Wednesday for direct talks with the United States over a potential missile test, but the Bush administration rejected the overture, saying threats aren't the way to seek dialogue.

"You don't normally engage in conversations by threatening to launch intercontinental ballistic missiles," U.N. Ambassador John Bolton said. "It's not a way to produce a conversation because if you acquiesce in aberrant behavior you simply encourage the repetition of it, which we're obviously not going to do."

"It should make people nervous when non-transparent regimes who have announced they have nuclear warheads, fire missiles," Bush said. "This is not the way you conduct business in the world."


More at http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2103851

I love chimpy's quote...talking about "non-transparent" regimes. The complete arrogance of this statement just boggles the mind.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 04:53 PM
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1. Now Kim will fire his missile just to spite Bush for ignoring him.
I can see it now...
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 04:54 PM
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2. It is the same policy we had during the cold war
The United States of America does not negotiate under threat. That has ALWAYS been policy.

North Korea must disarm first...then we talk. That's how we do business.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 04:56 PM
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3. But we expect other nations to negotiate "under threat"? n/t
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:01 PM
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4. Im just telling you what the policy is
We don't do business with anyone when there are missiles pointed at us.

Even during the Cuban Missile Crisis. JFK told the Russians if the missiles are not removed from Cuba, we will invade despite the threats of nuclear war. We told them if they take the missiles out, we will talk about our missiles in Turkey.

The Russians pulled out of Cuba. We talked about Turkey, and we pulled out our missiles 8 months later.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:21 PM
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8. You made my point.
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 05:26 PM by AnOhioan
There WAS communication between the US and USSR during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Maybe not formal summits or anything of that sort but backroom communication was occurring. A far cry from the current stance of no communication whatsoever except grandiose statements through the press.

If the chimp really wanted to ease the tension he would deal directly with the NK government, with the Iran government. But that is not what he wants, is it? No...he wants to keep that tension high...to create the only thing that would help the Cons in November, fear. That is the only thing he has going for him anymore.




Edited for spelling
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:37 PM
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12. True, the communication lines were
burning up with dialogue between Washington and the Kremlin. It took more than mere threats to quell that situation, skillfull maneuvering by one great president, John F. Kennedy. He knew Krushev quite well because he was a communicator unlike Dumbdumb. Kennedy had the skills to reach out and solve problems by using common sense, his knowledge of the world and the well laid respect he earned from our allies. Bush believes only in military force, that's it.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:23 PM
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10. No, the US just invades countries by lying
about non existent WMDs and threats that we are in danger of mushroom clouds. During the Cuban missle crisis the Kennedy administration was having serious dialogue with the Russians regarding the problem. 'Do as we say and there will be no dialogue', period, that's the Bush administration policy.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:28 PM
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11. No. Korea is not going to disarm.
Period. So what is Bush going to do about that? This situation is not the same as the Cuban missle crisis.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:06 PM
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5. Only the US can make threats.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:11 PM
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6. King George's slogan: Make war, not peace.
This is predictable. The Korean nutjob will fire his missile, Shrub will get lucky and shoot it down, the Korean nutjob will start arming the next missile. I swear Bush intends to create the "end of days."
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:14 PM
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7. "Threats aren't the way to seek dialogue"
I can understand the almost criminal lack of self-awareness in the corrupt Bush administration. After all, when a man's paycheck depends on his not seeing something, he damn well will not see it. But the collective amnesia of our Fourth Estate, who watched in either mute horror or with saliva dripping from their eager smiles, regarding the run-up to the Iraq invasion is staggering. Time after time, Chimpy made threats against Saddam to either dump his weapons of mass destruction or be invaded, time after time, Saddam denied having any weapons. Threats escalated and the lies multiplied until finally Chimpy had rallied sufficient public support to provide cover for his invasion.

Since then, in document after document, it's been shown conclusively that any charade of negotiation or dialogue was a mere sham and that Chimpy was going to invade come hell or high water. Saddam couldn't possibly have satisfied any threat made by the mad Bush regime.

Now, four years later, North Korea signals that it drew a lesson from Bush's behavior toward Iraq: Get yourself a nuclear weapon and actually have the capability of using it if you're going to "negotiate" or "dialogue" with the rogue Bush cabal. Suddenly, Chimpy's all concerned about threats and non-transparency. As I said, I can understand this administration's lying ways; they have to lie. But why do our popular media go along with his depraved rantings?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:23 PM
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9. Is Bush threatening himself?
"It should make people nervous when non-transparent regimes who have announced they have nuclear warheads, fire missiles," Bush said. "This is not the way you conduct business in the world."

He could very well be talking about the U.S. under his administration.
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