Medicare Bill Defeated!!!!!!

[girl gone mad]

Latest tally:

YEA NAY NV
REPULICAN 204 25
DEMOCRAT 12 192 1
INDEPENDENT 1
TOTALS 216 218 1


We won!

[Momof1]

1. ...Holding my breath...................eom

[goobergunch]

97. THE HEADLINE YOU SEE IS INCORRECT. BILL PASSED 220-215 (n/t)

[dusty64]

99. That is sadly true.

It did pass. I had a bit of hope there for a minute though, what a tease.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. watching history

and still holding my breath

[whirlygigspin]

4. breath already,

don't make me call a paramedic!

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. 911 what is your emergency

a DUer is holding thier breath over the medicare bill

:evilgrin:

[bluestateguy]

3. Votes can be changed

That's what Tom DeLay is for. Don't celebrate until it clears 218

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Now we are on Delay time

196-210

[ClintonTyree]

5. Good...........

bitch slap Bush and his handlers.

[JackSwift]

6. I suspect that there are few Republicans that want their

retired constituents knowing that they are voting funds for the Trojan Horse that will destroy Medicare. The geezers only have one thing to do all day long on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. And it isn't wash day.

[loyalsister]

31. They take the AARP VOTE seriously

more seriously than the president of the organization. They all know about members burning their cards and it's serious to them. AARP has a massive voter turnout - 85% in my area. People take and return calls not just to the organization, but to members. It's voting clout. These truly are people who are hiring and firing these legislators. They take them seriously.

[JailBush]

7. So when will the Repugs try it again?

And what will happen to AARP in the meantime?

[ClintonTyree]

20. AARP...............

is screwed. At least the leadership. They've sold out seniors and they won't recover from this for many years, if ever. Their conflict of interest story is spreading like the plague. The membership losses will decimate the organization.

[stevedeshazer]

8. Link, please? n/t

[sujan]

13. watch c-span 1

[stevedeshazer]

16. Thanks! n/t

[Momof1]

9. Which side is standijng up? eom

[sujan]

21. yours truly

[Hieronymus]

11. I hope........

I'd just about resigned myself to it passing.

[sujan]

14. 202-211

10 republicans and 11 democrats left to vote

7 democrats yea
27 repubs nay

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. 212-206

[CSI Willows]

15. tally

Yea: 196 republican; 8 democratic
nay: 25 republican; 186 democratic; 1 independent
total yea: 207
total nay: 212

[Momof1]

18. WOW 25 defectors...............LOL eom

[aquart]

Did that ....Daschle vote yea?

Is there a list of who voted what?

[aquart]

23. Did that ....Daschle vote yea?

Is there a list of who voted what?

[stevedeshazer]

24. This is the House vote

Daschle is in the Senate

[aquart]

28. Thanks. I just realized these aren't Senate numbers.

And then there was talk of Delay. It is soooo time for bed.

But if the House is rebelling against Delay, well, I can't sleep. My stomach is in knots and I don't have c-span.

[Judi Lynn]

52. You can get C-Span on the internet

Go to www.c-span.org
Choose c-span1 from the left column, and on the right side of the page, select real player or windows media player.

You'll REALLY enjoy starting to use this free service!

[sujan]

27. watch c-span 1

It's a house vote not senate.

[tkmorris]

19. 213 now........<eom>

[tkmorris]

22. 209-213

4 R's and 8 Dems not voting. Wait another Repub Aye vote, 210-213 now

[girl gone mad]

25. I'm updating the tally at the top

My heart is racing now.. didn't think it would be this close. Then again, I didn't think we could win.

[tkmorris]

26. I really didn't either

I thought this was a done deal. In fact I kinda thought it was gonna be a ball and chain topic for the Repubs come the election. Maybe not.

[girl gone mad]

29. Either way it will be a ball and chain, IMO

A huge defeat for Bush if it fails, and a bill seniors will be very angry about if it passes.

[tkmorris]

32. True

Though as a "Bush defeat", while it has an effect that effect will be short-lived IMHO. Bad legislation lives forever, stalking you, haunting you, calling you at all hours of the night ;-)

No matter. Like you, I am feeling good over this one. Even if they pass it it cuts their throats and it'll be gutted before it does too much damage.

[aquart]

30. Maybe the realization that AARP couldn't deliver its membership

Made them just a trifle nervous.

[loyalsister]

33. There ya go!

It's the membership\voters stupid!
:)

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. anybody has the Jeopardy theme in the background?

[girl gone mad]

35. It's all up to those 7 dems now. n/t

[Elwood P Dowd]

37. 218. It's over!!!!!!!

nt

[tkmorris]

36. WE WIN!!! <eom>

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. history folks we just watched history

the house just rejected it

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

42. Wow! This is kind of like the Falcons going to the Superbowl!

:toast:

[ClintonTyree]

39. Yahoo!!!!!!!

Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it Dumbya!!

[nofurylike]

40. thank you, girl gone mad!

for giving this great gift to those of us relying on your updates!

excellent!!

[girl gone mad]

43. You are more than welcome.

Boy was I getting nervous towards the end! Whoever said politics isn't exciting?

[nofurylike]

46. nail-biting!

you did a great thing here.
everyone did, thanks all!

peace!

[nofurylike]

55. can you tell what is happening now?

still no gavel?

[aquart]

41. OMG.

Tonight, in the dead of night, the Senate stopped the energy bill, and the house didn't obey Delay.

Is it a full moon? What's going on here?

Perhaps I can sleep now.

[Myra]

45. Um, they haven't dropped the gavel yet

Sorry to say.

[tkmorris]

44. Gavel still not laid down

And someone just changed their vote. 216-218 now. Is this not over yet?

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. This is tom delay for you

I wonder what he is telling them right at the moment

[Myra]

48. God he sure lives up to his name

...

[aquart]

49. Never mind Tom. Who's talking to OUR defectors?

And I do so hope to see a primary challenge for every bloody one of them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. For the moment we nee to retake the house and the senate

reality is, if we retake the WH but we do nto retake the house and the senate, I can guarantee an impeachment

[Guaranteed]

56. In wartime? Hahahahha

Yeah, once we get the White House, we get to use the same bullshit tactics they're using right now. FUCK them.

[girl gone mad]

51. Hastert is leaving it open..

I don't think Delay will get any of those conservative R's to switch, but he could be promisong something to the D's. Hopefully Pelosi is working on our defectors..

[linus]

54. house still voting

So far the vote is 216 yeas and 218 nays with one person not voting.

I don't know how much longer this can go on, I guess until they dismiss the session.

[nadinbrzezinski]

59. For the record this is the longest

15 minute vote I have ever seen

[Judi Lynn]

53. girl gone mad, I gave up after Nancy Pelisi gave her closing speech.

I didn't believe they had the votes! I was SHOCKED when I saw your post.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! :hi: :hi:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

57. I am stunned beyond belief! Good news!

[Judi Lynn]

58. Earlier tonight, either Charles Rangel or Pete Stark

pointed out that it's a crime that the Republicans kept the vote on this bill and the debate out until it was late, late, late at night, and almost ALL of the country would be sleeping.

On edit:

Anyone conscious who would have heard the speeches from the Democrats, and the Republicans wouldn't have to be a rocket scientist to see exactly what kind of scam they're running.

Hope there's a transcript available soon. It will have some intensely searing remarks from the Democrats, and truly lame, sly, pompous, and utterly deceptive yammering from the Republicans. As several of the Democrats said, SHAME, SHAME, SHAME.

[flpeach]

60. Gosh . . . .

Just tuned in. What's going on? Still 216 218. What goes? Is there a possibility this will pass? Heaven help us.

[aquart]

61. Late FRIDAY night.

Nobody reads the Saturday papers.

Bad news is always dumped on Friday night.

Bastards know these bills are lemons.

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. My lord

this is the longest 15 minute vote I have ever seen

Damn it, it should dawn on Delay, IT IS OVER, he ain't gonna
get it

[aquart]

65. And Delay will keep them past dawn if he has to.

It will be his personal triumph.

[Guaranteed]

67. Folks are gonna be going to bed, though.

People are going to get frustrated and just leave. Once all the nay votes leave, that's it. There'd be nothing he could do.

[bain_sidhe]

63. Not so fast...

The vote isn't over till the gavel comes down... and they're not going to put it down until they win. They've been working to either bring over some of the rePUKE defectors or the Dems to the "yea" side for AN HOUR AND A HALF... and counting. It's now 4:45 AM, eastern time. The vote started at 3:00 AM.

[0rganism]

64. Wow, 25 R defectors

Never thought I'd see the day they deserted ol' Lockstep DeLay.

[Guaranteed]

66. Looks like Pelosi is keeping that one Dem NV

just loaded there, as insurance in case Delay tries succeeds in pulling his funny stuff. Assuming that NV would go to us, Delay needs to win over 2 yeas to nays.

[whirlygigspin]

68. let's put a hex on Delay

hex on you
hex on you

coffee & doughnuts in the lobby,
just bang that gavel

Doughnuts
Doughnuts
Tom, you know you love em,
your feeling hungry,
thirsty, oh oh, you better go
to the bathroom soon,
full bladder,
bang that gavel,

[Buns_of_Fire]

69. 5:00 EST and still 216-218

That sound you DON'T hear on C-SPAN is the bones cracking as DeLay is putting the squeeze on those 25 Republicans.

on edit: yes, I really do know that "squeeze" is only spelled with three "e"s...

[aquart]

70. I hope this night destroys him.

I hope the ghosts of men who died saving his worthless life walk beside him every minute whispering, "Not worth it" in his ears.

What the Republicans have done is nothing less than plot the premature deaths of millions of Americans.

[Guaranteed]

72. If he loses this, it could.

He's Bush's protector in the House...if he can't keep his own party in line there, he's not going to have a happy chimp on his hands. And YOU know what happens when chimps get angry...

Thrown feces.

[nadinbrzezinski]

71. Think about it, this will be a huge

defeat for george and delay

[Guaranteed]

73. An hour and forty minutes until Washington Journal starts

Delay better hurry the hell up. Impotent clown.

People have had enough of Bush's corporate whoring. He pushed it too far.

[Judi Lynn]

74. The "C-Span lady" just said that if the bill passes

it will be taken up later today in the Senate.

Sure wish that one outstanding Rep. would vote "Nay" for his/her conscience's sake.

[nofurylike]

75. i have to move to the new thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=756644

this one takes too long to refresh now.

i don't understand what's happening, but can't ask here.

sigh.

thank you, again, girl gone mad!

peace, all!

[girl gone mad]

76. Almost 2 hours..

with no change. I hope they get the message soon.

[whirlygigspin]

77. breakfast time

for all the hungry congresspeople
bacon frying, egg, toast, coffee.
mmm, smell the coffee, hash browns,
pancakes, maple syrup.

just bang that ole gavel, c'mon,
fresh orange juice
in the lobby,

EggMcmuffin

[flpeach]

79. Oh Shit!!! n/t

[Judi Lynn]

78. They just announced 220 ayes and 215 noes

Some people changed their votes.

They are insisting they won.

[Guaranteed]

80. According to the Speaker, "The Ayes Have It" nt

[Buns_of_Fire]

81. Measure approved. 220-215.

:puke:

[flpeach]

82. 15 minute vote . . .

For what?? To reconsider?

[karlschneider]

86. No, this is on whether to table (kill) the motion to reconsider.

:eyes:

[karlschneider]

83. What a clusterfuck.

:grr:

[truthisfreedom]

84. was the reason that the total number of votes one less during previous

voting that the speaker hadn't voted yet?

[flpeach]

85. This is a horrible bill . . . .

What is happening to our country?? The right is selling out to big business . . . pharmaceutical companies will never go down on prices now, never!!! My god, I hope they reconsider this!!

[Judi Lynn]

87. They just announced on CBS radio news that the Republicans won

Said the bill is "loaded with give-aways for drug companies."

Oh, really?

Jeez, if ONLY this could be reversed.

[Buns_of_Fire]

88. The motion to reconsider has been tabled, 210-193.

DOUBLE :puke: They gaveled THIS one quick enough...

[Guaranteed]

89. Maybe we oughta change the title of this thread.

I'm pretty goddamn pissed about this.

[Buns_of_Fire]

91. At least it still has to make it past the Senate

It depends now on how much spine the Dems choose to show there and how quickly they want to go home for Thanksgiving.

[0rganism]

90. It'll be interesting to find out who the three quislings are

220-215

Probably a couple of pukes hanging on for extra favors from DeLay.

[truthisfreedom]

92. i wouldn't doubt that.

[Judi Lynn]

94. Jerks. They need to get some e-mails.

By the way, the list of Democrats who voted for the catastrophe can be found here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=756777

[BGAL1965]

93. WE MUST FLOOD THE SENATE WITH MESSAGES DEMANDING THE DEFEAT THIS

BILL!!!!!

[eyeontheprize]

95. What an awful roller coaster!

I just got up and read the whole thread. It sounded just like a really bad election night, where you eat breakfast not sure if you have a hangover or are still drunk.

The silver lining is that there are several Republicans who for one reason or anther had courage, if only for a moment. This means some of them will have guilt for failing the country; maybe next time they will do what is right.

Maybe Delay’s pesticide use will catch up with him, I know that there are roaches which have become tolerant of pesticides and can survive even the highest concentrations of them. Delay looks like he is in that strain, we can hope anyway.

[aquart]

101. The conservatives held out

Because they thought the bill was too nice to the American people and didn't do enough to emasculate Medicare, I thought.

I went to bed at 5:15. I knew I'd wake up to a loss.

The Democrats who betrayed us need to feel it.

[creativelcro]

96. so guys,

what do you think the Rep leadership promised to those Republican flip floppers to convince them to switch ? -CV

[Snellius]

98. 2 votes switched due to call from Bu**sh**

According to a guy from National Journal on C-SPAN, the two Republican votes that switched from nay to yea were a freshman Franks (?) from Arizona and a 2-3 termer Otter (?) from Idaho who held out until the last minute. They switched after receiving a personal call from the prez.

[Jack Rabbit]

100. We held that one

:toast:

[DemExpat]

102. This headline is incorrect.....

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