Lieberman Ally Advises: Run As An Independent

[IndianaGreen]

Lieberman Ally Advises: Run As An Independent

June 13, 2006

By MARK PAZNIOKAS, Courant Staff Writer

A prominent ally of U.S. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman urged Monday that Lieberman run for re-election as an independent and not trust his career to left-leaning Democratic primary voters in August.

John F. Droney Jr., a former Democratic state chairman who helped Lieberman unseat Republican Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr. in 1988, said Lieberman should make his case for re-election to all voters in November.

"I think to be terrorized through the summer by an extremely small group of the Democratic Party, much less the voting population, is total insanity for a person who is a three-term senator," Droney said.

http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-ctlamont0613.artjun13,0,5492643.story?coll=hc-headlines-politics-state

[MadMaddie]

1. F&%*$ Lieberwhore.....he sold out the American people....he

sold out the Democratic party...

[saigon68]

39. Joementum Limpmann in "The March of the Irrelevants"

[rurallib]

2. Hey, Joe, remember party loyalty?

Lamont said he'd support you if you win the primary. Be a big boy Joe. Do it for the team.

[MadMaddie]

5. Do it for the team would imply that he participated with the team...

and Lieberwhore is no team player...

[Iniquitous Bunny]

16. The lack of party loyalty...

is precisely why this man has to go. He does not uphold and support the values of Democrats.

[saltpoint]

3. Maybe this is a signal that Joe is going to jump.

Left-leaning voters are "terrorizing" Lieberman?

I thought that was what a primary was for -- to select a candidate. "Voting" would have been the better word.

[Zhade]

23. Notice how Lieberman's allies ALSO use rightwing rhetoric.

Kinda like, you know, Joementum's essentially calling those who question the war terrorists.

Birds of a feather and all that.

[saltpoint]

38. I did feel that Droney's chocie of words was either very calculated

to demonize Lamont enthusiasts or downright careless.

And considering that Droney is an experienced hand at the politics game, I'm sort of guessing it was on purpose.

Well. We'll see if they survive this sturdy challenge by Ned Lamont. I'm thinking Lamont's supporters are larger in number than Droney believes.

[saskatoon]

52. Joe is going to jump?

I've been thinking on this, Jump? Jump where---oh, my sainted aunt---you mean --you really mean he is going to turn Republican! Well what the hell, he's been voting their way so----

[VegasWolf]

4. Loserman should be true to his worthless soul and run as a Republican. nt

[CityDem]

20. Move to Israel

Old Joe should run for the Knesset.

[VegasWolf]

6. Gee Joe, being a slime, fucktard traitor has disadvantages doesn't it?

[wordpix2]

7. "terrorized by a small group of the Dem party" WTF? 40% are for Lamont now

Lieberbush needs to understand we now have a choice in CT and a lot of us including longtime Dem activists in this state are choosing Lamont. I am sick and tired of Lieberman's pandering to BushCo and they're wrong: this Iraq War is not helping the US or Israel in the least. It is hurting us and bringing us way down.

[IndianaGreen]

8. Lieberman Rebuffs Lamont Challenge - Will Not Support if Lamont Wins

Lieberman Rebuffs Lamont Challenge - Will Not Support if Lamont Wins

June 13, 2006 at 09:42:34 EST

This morning on WSTC/WNLK here in Connecticut, Lieberman campaign manager Sean Smith made it official. He said this to news reporter Erik Campano,

Are we going to support Ned Lamont? Ah, no! (laughs)...
Listen to the audio clip (MP3 , 42kb, 10sec)

http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1556

[Voltaire99]

22. Whom will Lieberman's pal Obama support?

Obama, of course, stumped for Joementum at a fundraiser in March:

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn04242006.html

[gordianot]

45. Thank you, I will store that for future reference. Joementum is poison.

Obama seems to keep making serious mistakes, I am continuously disappointed.

[IndianaGreen]

62. Obama did refer to Joe as the big elephant in the room

Of course, he didn't intend it to mean it that way, but all of us understood the Freudian slip.

[Voltaire99]

63. I expect Obama's the next Bill Clinton.

In short, a center-rightist with immense charisma whom post-liberal Dems can love.

Through style and the cult of personality, he can help them feel good about voting for war and corporations. They'll be very grateful.

[Zhade]

24. Ah, so Joe DOESN'T believe in supporting the Dem.

Interesting.

So, where are the Dolsteins of the world, spinning this lack of unity for all it's worth?

If you're out there, D - let him go. The man does not deserve your loyalty.

[CTLawGuy]

29. you won't hear them

because they dishonestly use the cudgel of party loyalty only to force us to support their conservative candidates. Because they are conservative, plain and simple, but they can't come out and say it.

If they want the Dem party to be a conservative party, fine. But don't expect me to roll over and do nothing.

[William Seger]

31. Laughed out loud at that line

Why should Joe be the least bit concered about an "extremely small group of the Democratic Party, much less the voting population?"

[Critters2]

47. Concerned? Hell, he's

TERRORIZED!!!! :scared: :hide:

Time to go, Joe!

[William Seger]

60. LMAO!

:rofl:

[Art_from_Ark]

61. Absolutely

If Joementum's detractors were just a small group of "fringe types", he's have nothing at all to worry about in the primary, right?

[Sgent]

9. The bigger (more important) question

given that Lieberman would almost certainly win if he ran as an independent, is who would he caucus with?

If he caucuses with the Republicans, we have given a CT seat the the R -- making retaking the senate almost impossible.

[Rose Siding]

11. That's what polls show now but that could change.

According to Quinnipac, 73% of Dems say they still don't know enough about Lamont to make an opinion. Some of them were still voting for him, against Joe.

[CTLawGuy]

12. I think once it is widely known that Joe is acting like a baby

his #s will drop like a stone. Even people who are non-political can understand when someone is a selfish juvenile.

[William Seger]

33. What's the diff if he votes like a Repug anyway?

Seriously, I don't understand this reasoning.

[IndianaGreen]

55. Exactly, Lieberman is a Bush war enabler

and an advocate of expanding the war into Syria, Lebanon, and Iran.

[tavalon]

58. That one I can answer

If he has a D after his name, no matter how he votes, the D counts towards our full numbers in the Senate. If we have a majority, the Dems are able to take the majority status with all of its attendant power to subpeona, etc. If he has an I after his name, then he doesn't count towards either side.

Even if he wins with a D behind his name, he now knows, and should have known long before, that if we get a comfortable enough margin of real democrats in the Senate, he will be shown the door. He knows the only way he gets to stay is if he stays Democrat and he beats Lamont. Throwing a hissy fit about it won't help his numbers one bit.

[William Seger]

59. So it only matters if it's 49-49-2?

That's a valid point, but it only comes into play if it turns out to be exactly 49-49-2 with Joe and Jeffords counted as Is (or, I suppose, 50-49-1 with Joe counted as an R, but that's not likely). So, if we get 50 Ds or better, it won't matter if Joe is an I.

[mhatrw]

67. 49-49-2 PLUS if Joe decides to caucus Repuke.

He'd have to make the personal decision to throw the Senate leadership to the party of the President that over 70% of his supposed constituents (the residents of CT) DISAPPROVE of.

[tavalon]

57. Are you sure he would win?

Just wondering?

[TheVirginian]

64. Yes. And so is the DSCC.

[Rose Siding]

10. Why does Droney hate democracy?

Would he rather the majority be terrorized by an "extremely small group" of extremist Republicans?

[liberalhistorian]

13. How about advising the

POS SOB not to run at all, and to give it up and get the fuck out of the Senate and go to Iraq if he wants to continue his warmongering cheerleading for BushCo?

[Pastiche423]

14. When is the primary in CT

and can the repugs cross-over vote?

[Iniquitous Bunny]

15. August 8.

They cannot.

[jaysunb]

17. and if he wins...

he'll caucus w/ the republicans. :evilfrown:

[daleo]

18. Terrorized by the voting population?

Has this man misplaced his medication?

[Amonester]

19. Like Marie-Antoinette was "terrarizeed" by the...

re-voLting population?

Is it just moi or, it seems they're "calling" for it?

Bonsoir JoeyLeBouche. :hi:

[Divine Discontent]

21. he needs out, and I think when they get to know the other

candidate better, they'll vote lamont.

go ahead Joe, flee the party, you don't vote strong enough for us anyhow...

everything war related he backs the blood loving bush, did joementum at least get the vote right on the marriage ammendment?

sadly, this bumper sticker applies to joementum...

?r=632858463257330185
www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

[Voltaire99]

26. The party should have kicked him out long ago.

Instead, it ran him as veep putting him one sour-pussed, theocratic, militaristic sigh away from the top. No wonder Nader drew so many progressives. What kind of lunatic leadership wants this man in the White House?

Now, this latest embarrassment: Joe's camp derides the grass roots as terrorists and flirts with abandoning the party in order to preserve his right wing fiefdom.

Go, Joe! Go join the GOP!

[pokercat999]

25. I think it's total insanity to have a three term senator!

One term in any federal office and out forever! With what, 300 million people in the US we can't find a two new Senators for every state every six years? Bullshit, re-election is just a way to create minor fiefdoms for these egomaniacs. It also solidifies power and allows for more graft and corruption. 6 years and out forever.

[Voltaire99]

28. Agreed wholeheartedly.

Ditto for House terms. Serve, ye willing and selfless servants, and then get the hell out.

In Tailgunner Joe, we see, as in many an entrenched friend to fat cats, a sizable asset to elites--in his case, the defense industry. He simply can't be displaced; the displeasure of his most valuable constituents would be staggering.

Not a hard prediction to make, then: Lieberman still has a bright, bright future in this party. If Hillary wins and he's still a Democrat, he'll be amply rewarded.

[w4rma]

34. Their power comes from big money.

Not neccessarily incombancy and that incombancy helps the good politicians fight big money, also.

[Tesha]

27. Joe: Be true to yourself: run as Likud, or, failing that, Republican. (NT)

[Orsino]

30. Good point.

He whores for corporations, and respects no party's platform. I guess you could call that "independent," to a certain extent.

[w4rma]

32. Where are his DLC supporters on this board now?

:crickets:

!@#$ing con artist scumbag. Where is that "loyalty" you preach? "Loyalty" is a two-way street and LIEberman has no loyalty.

[saskatoon]

53. Leiberman and loyalty

All I can think about when I hear his name is the COUNTLESS TIMES I HAVE SEEN that Bastard, in the rose garden when Bush would be making a speech---and WHO was at his right shoulder? It was godamned disgusting!

[cannabis_flower]

35. Now we can call him Chicken Joe nt

[The Stranger]

36. Leibercon should run as a REPUBLICAN!

:woohoo:

[noel adamson]

37. Good riddance

If the Democratic party had more than a handful of democrats in it The Republicans would not control anything and we would all be a lot better off.

[warrens]

40. This guy and Lieberman INVENTED the liberal meme

To wit: Lowell Weicker: Too Liberal for Connecticut. The Repukes immediately stole it and the rest is history. I volunteered for the Weicker campaign as soon as I saw what Lieberman was up to.

[lostnfound]

41. Planning an Independent run??

Wow. If so, that would be just one more gift to the Rep's. Wow.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/06/13/lieberman_allies_planning_independent_bid.html

June 13, 2006
Lieberman Allies Planning Independent Bid
Political Wire has learned that key allies of Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) are making contingency plans for the three-term senator to run as an independent in this fall's U.S. Senate race in Connecticut. Lieberman faces a challenge in the Democratic primary from businessman Ned Lamont.

In fact, an important Lieberman backer, former Connecticut Democratic chairman John F. Droney Jr., is quoted by the Hartford Courant as a supporter of the plan: "I think to be terrorized through the summer by an extremely small group of the Democratic Party, much less the voting population, is total insanity for a person who is a three-term senator."

Though the Lieberman camp is trying to discourage such speculation, the senator's campaign manager was quoted on the radio today saying they would not back Lamont (D) if he won the Democratic primary.

[MessiahRp]

51. Calling all CT voters...

Though the Lieberman camp is trying to discourage such speculation, the senator's campaign manager was quoted on the radio today saying they would not back Lamont (D) if he won the Democratic primary.

That about says it all. If he's unwilling to back a Democrat should he lose a fair election then he's NOT a Dem. Every Democratic voter in the state of CT should be revolting against this guy for that very statement.

Rp

[Blasphemer]

54. What a complete scumbag

I am so disgusted by so-called public servants who are more interested in retaining power and serving an agenda than in the Democratic process. If the Democratic voters of CT decide they want a representative who actually... oh I don't know.... REPRESENTS their views, then that is as it should be. It boggles the mind that some in the party want to declare war on rank and file democrats. Lieberman should be ashamed of himself.

[MrPrax]

42. How fascistic...

""I think to be terrorized through the summer by an extremely small group of the Democratic Party, much less the voting population, is total insanity for a person who is a three-term senator,"

So what is he saying? That a three-term Senator shouldn't have to be certified by a democratic election anymore because what? Lieberman is a 'made' guy or something and should haven't to put up with the petty masses judging him. Or Lieberman is so much more important than what democrats in Conn. think, that they should be thankful to have him as a Senator.

I would have liked to believe that once upon a time, this guy's remarks would have sunk Joe's campaign...but I KNOW that if Lamont becomes more successful, then Joe will repeat stuff like this and eventually find 'anti-semticism' rife in the Lamont campaign

[ihelpu2see]

43. I keep hearing "Pundits" who are "in the know" that liberals in the

Dem. party are a "small" group.... I hope that here in CT we, the small group, trounce Joe in the Primary.... I know it is a long shot but what a great day if the liberals in ct come out in force and send a message that we can do so much more for all in America, if we would stop funding useless war and the weapons we do not need!

VOTE LAMONT Aug 2006

[Renew Deal]

44. Why should Lieberman worry if it's a small group?

It's up to Dems in CT to pick the nominee.

[Naipes]

46. What they are saying is...

they are afraid they will lose as Democrats.

I take that as a good sign!

[Burried News]

48. HoeJoe ... all that Elephant shit you buried over the years

sure has created some fertile ground for the opposition hasn't it? BuHH Bye.

[apple_ridge]

49. His stance is further proof that he is a repuke.

By running as an independent, he would only assist the repuke candidate.

http://blurbiage.blogspot.com/2006/06/yankee-turncoat.html

[slackmaster]

50. Yeah, that's what we need

A third party candidate to split the Democratic vote into two convenient size pieces.

:dunce:

[tavalon]

56. Yeah, lLieberman

Run as an independent. Better yet, just drop out and save yourself the money.

[monarch]

65. If you want to better understand John Droney' s outburst, read

"Weirdos of the World, Unite" http://blogs.courant.com/colin_mcenroe_to_wit/2006/06/every_so_often_.html

If you follow the links you get an idea of what has gone wrong with the CT democratic party.

[mhatrw]

66. So over 50% of the Democratic primary voters is a "small"

group of Democrats?

And having to face another Democrat in a primary challenge is equivalent to terrorizing someone?

Wow. Every time a Zarqawi dies, a Ned Lamont steps in to take his place. Right, Joe?

[Tom Jefferson]

68. The Democratic Party is big enough for Joe. He ain't going nowhere.

[Occulus]

71. There is no room for people like him in the democratic party.

Holy Joe just needs to go.

He is bad for Democrats and bad for the country.

[ckramer]

69. If LIEberman has half a brain, he would shut up being a republican

Send him home.

Early retirement! Congratulations!

He wants to be with his family. Yeah!

LOL

[ckramer]

70. His ally gave him bad advice - He should run as a Republican!

LOL

[IndianaGreen]

72. Schumer was wrong in his tacit support of a rogue Lieberman candidacy

and Lieberman is wrong for his persistent support of Bush's Long War.

And this is wrong too (it made my gaydar go off scale!):

[LibDemAlways]

73. Lieberman has no one to blame

for his unpopularity but himself. If he was only being opposed by an "extremely small group" he'd have nothing to worry about, would he?

[Jack Rabbit]

74. I don't care who Droney is talking about

He's talking nonsense.

If the voters no longer have confidence in Lieberman or no longer feel he represents them, they have a right to choose someone else. That's democracy, not terrorism.

Where did Droney learn his civics? He's talking as though Lieberman is a ruler and the voter are his subjects. That is the kind of attitude one would expect from a Russian Tsar, an eighteenth-century French royalist or a neoconservative, not a citizen of a democratic nation.