The 9/11 Story That Got Away

Judith Miller (of all people!) talks about the 9/11 warning story from the summer of 2001 that the New York Times considered putting on the front page but ultimately failed to report on at all. It also involves the NSA, which is interesting given the new CIA Director nominee Michael Hayden was the head of the NSA at the time.

http://www.alternet.org/story/36388 /

Here's the crux of it, IMHO, from Miller's mouth, talking about the July 4th weekend before 9/11:

"But I did manage to have a conversation with a source that weekend. The person told me that there was some concern about an intercept that had been picked up. The incident that had gotten everyone's attention was a conversation between two members of Al Qaida. And they had been talking to one another, supposedly expressing disappointment that the United States had not chosen to retaliate more seriously against what had happened to the Cole. And one Al Qaida operative was overheard saying to the other, 'Don't worry; we're planning something so big now that the U.S. will have to respond.'

"And I was obviously floored by that information. I thought it was a very good story: (1) the source was impeccable; (2) the information was specific, tying Al Qaida operatives to, at least, knowledge of the attack on the Cole; and (3) they were warning that something big was coming, to which the United States would have to respond. This struck me as a major page one-potential story.

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I should also point out that it's not that surprising to see Judith Miller's name pop up here, because she was the New York Times' most prominent reporter on terrorism related issues for years. She wrote a series on al-Qaeda in January 2001 that later won her a Pulitzer Prize. She had a good reputation then, and believe it or not, she actually worked for liberal outlets like the Progressive and NPR for years before going all neocon.

What's interesting is why didn't she reveal this almost story until now? Obviously, she and the New York Times were protecting the Bush administration's reputation. In fact, the New York Times even went so far as to remove an interesting story about al-Qaeda they'd published on September 9, 2001 immediately after 9/11. Until this day, if you try to access this story through their web archive you are sent to another story by the same article written shortly after 9/11.

So, if that's so, why is she coming out with this information now? Given that it knocks the NSA and Hayden is up for confirmation as head of the CIA, I don't think that's just a coincidence. Why she would be against his nomination I don't know, maybe the power faction she's allied with these days doesn't like him for some reason.

September 9, 2001: New York Times Reports bin Laden ‘Promises More Attacks’; Article Will Be Removed Shortly After 9/11

Just two days before 9/11, the New York Times publishes an article on their website examining the threat of an al-Qaeda attack on US interests. The article focuses on a videotape made by bin Laden which was released in June 2001 (see June 19, 2001). The article notes that “When the two-hour videotape surfaced last June, it attracted little attention, partly because much of it was spliced from previous bin Laden interviews and tapes. But since then the tape has proliferated on Islamic Web sites and in mosques and bazaars across the Muslim world.” It further notes that in the video, bin Laden “promises more attacks.” Referring to the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen, he says, “The victory of Yemen will continue.” He promises to aid Palestinians fighting Israel, an important shift in emphasis from previous pronouncements. He also praises the Taliban, suggesting that previous reports of a split between bin Laden and the Taliban were a ruse. The article comments, “With his mockery of American power, Mr. bin Laden seems to be almost taunting the United States.” (New York Times, 9/9/01) Curiously, shortly after 9/11, the New York Times will remove the article from their website archive and redirect all links from the article’s web address, http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/09/international/asia/09... to the address of another article written by the same author shortly after 9/11, http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/12/international/12OSAM.... . (Note the dates contained within the addresses.)

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By the way, you can still try the top link and watch your browser get redirected to the story in the second link. Talk about a cowardly newspaper!

I'd also point out that if Miller's latest account is true, what does that tell us about how hard the 9/11 Commission tried to find the truth? Why didn't they uncover this NSA warning after 9/11? Miller says "everyone" in power was talking about it. So that means pretty much "everyone" has been lying their asses off about just how much warning they'd been given before 9/11. But that shouldn't be a big surprise.

Also, there was already a thread on a Raw Story article about this article coming up, but I'm starting a new thread so people can go directly to the new article instead of an article about the article. Kudos to Raw Story, though, for bringing this story to wider attention.

Great catch, and a tidy synopsis of the compliant media.

for this link.

I have looked for this for years now, to no avail.

I so clearly recall walking West on East 29th street, just off Park Avenue South and pointing out the article to my S.O.*

The article had an above-the-fold photo of OBL. We were laughing (cynically) that the Administration obviously needed a new Bogie Man and they must have got this guy from
Central Casting.
We thought he looked like some actor wearing a terrorist costume.

I looked for the article right after the attacksbut we'd recycled the paper and I never could find the article online.


Thanks. for posting this.

*(only pointing out the specifics to illustrate how clearly I recall the event)

We need a better Internet method of retention.

ASIDE: Another, now locked, DU thread on today's revelation:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

the research at DU and on the internets never ceases to amaze me.

Thank you, lets see what comes out of this.

For some reason the link in Comment # 25 --- http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=5942 link to a Democrats.com archived copy of the original September 9, 2001 New York Times article (which the New York Times scrubbed from their archives) --- is a dead link (and leads to a "This page can not be displayed" notice).

But the Google cache of this democrats.com page, containing the original September 9, 2001 article by John F. Burns for the New York Times (entitled, "On Videotape, Bin Laden Charts a Violent Future") can still be accessed at http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:eNg7X0fJQzcJ:democr... .

At the present time, you can still get this (from Google cache) by Googling the following query:

"By JOHN F. BURNS " "september 9, 2001"

and then clicking "Cached" on the following democrats.com page, (which is currently the first item displaed for this query):

"Democrats.com Exclusive: To Protect Top Bureaucrats, NY Times ...September 9, 2001 On Videotape, Bin Laden Charts a Violent Future By JOHN F. BURNS The image on the grainy videotape is mesmerizing: a tall, slim, ...
democrats.com/view.cfm?id=5942 - 21k - Cached - Similar pages"


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You might want to archive this Google cached page (which contains the original scrubbed article), so a record of this article will still exist in the event that the original article becomes unavailable on the net.



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Bush & Co should have been on this guy's case for months, all summer at the very least. What an incompetent boob! IMPEACH him!

They got out of DC, they stayed away from commercial jets - they knew something was coming. But they didn't try to stop it.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main...

Ashcroft Flying High

WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001

Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.

A senior official at the CIA said he was unaware of specific threats against any Cabinet member, and Ashcroft himself, in a speech in California, seemed unsure of the nature of the threat.

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www.msnbc.com/news/907379.asp?0cv=KA01

The Secrets of September 11
The White House is battling to keep a report on the terror attacks secret. Does the 2004 election have anything to do with it?

April 30 — Even as White House political aides plot a 2004 campaign plan designed to capitalize on the emotions and issues raised by the September 11 terror attacks, administration officials are waging a behind-the-scenes battle to restrict public disclosure of key events relating to the attacks.

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Some sources who have read the still-secret congressional report say some sections would not play quite so neatly into White House plans. One portion deals extensively with the stream of U.S. intelligence-agency reports in the summer of 2001 suggesting that Al Qaeda was planning an upcoming attack against the United States—and implicitly raises questions about how Bush and his top aides responded. One such CIA briefing, in July 2001, was particularly chilling and prophetic. It predicted that Osama bin Laden was about to launch a terrorist strike “in the coming weeks,” the congressional investigators found. The intelligence briefing went on to say: “The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. facilities or interests. Attack preparations have been made. Attack will occur with little or no warning.”

The substance of that intelligence report was first disclosed at a public hearing last September by staff director Hill. But at the last minute, Hill was blocked from saying precisely who within the Bush White House got the briefing when CIA director Tenet classified the names of the recipients. (One source says the recipients of the briefing included Bush himself.) As a result, Hill was only able to say the briefing was given to “senior government officials.”

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www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node...

Summer Spinning
To GOP, Vacation Boosted Bush Agenda; To Democrats, Voters See a Shirk Ethic
Aug 29, <2001>

<snip>The White House had announced that Bush would stay at his 1,600-acre ranch in Crawford from Aug. 4 through Labor Day on Sept. 3, a 31-day stretch that would have broken a modern record for a presidential vacation, held by Richard M. Nixon for a 30-day trip to San Clemente, Calif., in 1969. News reports played up the record, and a Gallup Poll found that 55 percent of respondents thought Bush's vacation was too long.

The length of the trip revived old questions about Bush's work ethic, and the poll and the news coverage caused consternation in the White House. Aides said they had planned an ambitious schedule for Bush as long ago as late June, but reporters were not told about it, even after they landed here. The White House, suddenly defensive, took every opportunity to show Bush on the go and even created a "Western White House" logo for the briefing room at Crawford Elementary School. Bush revealed that his ranch had new video conferencing equipment for keeping in touch with his national security team.

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www.jacksonholenews.com/Archives/NewsArchive/2001/01081...

News story - Aug. 15, 2001
A Working Vacation
Vice President Cheney plans to fish, travel during month-long valley sojourn.
By Angus M. Thuermer Jr.

Vice President Dick Cheney took time off from his month-long working vacation Monday to outline his plans for August in Jackson Hole and to reflect on "an amazing year."

Cheney, who will live at his Teton Pines home about six miles west of Jackson until Labor Day, defended his energy policy, supported a local decision to limit drilling around the Gros Ventre Wilderness, recalled a life of service in Washington and said his health problems are not affecting his ability to fish for trout on his favorite Western waters.

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Back in the days of common, relatively "peaceful" hijackings, pilots were allowed to carry guns in the cockpit. Not many ever did.

Personally, I'd rather hire armed guards, if necessary, & let the crews concentrate on flying.

However, I wonder why guns in the cockpit were banned in July 2001?

For decades, up through the 1980s, some pilots carried guns on board--at first to protect the U.S. mail and then to combat hijackings. Although the practice petered out, the government did not formally ban it until July 2001.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/26/time.pil...

(I'd never heard about "protecting the mail." But I remembered this rather odd little "coincidence.")

I'll take that thought to my grave.

...heavily assisted.

It's obvious! Sadly, sadly so...

You're not alone with that thought. Many I know do, self-included.

why else did bush have his FBI squelching investigations, refusing to even take things to FISA? Bush needs to be impeached, convicted and jailed for life (if he makes it to jail in one piece).

this is all so fucked up

Clarke (after he left the WH)he basically said re: 9-11 (paraphrase)"The Saudi's got a freebee".
The inference was financial, that the bush cartel & associates had screwed them on some major $ deals over the years.

But they will never admit that fact.

Caro's (Carolyn Kay MakeThemAccountable.com) point on this is well taken -

"Was it due to incompetence, or was it purposeful? It could only have been one or the other. If it was purposeful, the administration was providing itself the “new Pearl Harbor” that the Project for the New American Century said would be necessary to scare the American people into becoming militaristic. And giving up our freedoms."

I'd love to see a media discussion on that paragraph - but I am not holding my breath.

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In my research, I came across a mention that in 1993, she personally witnessed the torture of a Hamas suspect in an Israeli prison. She wrote about what the suspect confessed in a New York Times article at the time, but failed to mention her direct presence there. She happened to mention it years later, though. Very strange. Obviously this supports your suggestion of her having close Israeli ties.

-- they shared a common interest in an Israeli Archeological Institute, which they discussed as the FBI taped their conversation that ended up in the Franklin indictment -- and that may have other implications that haven't been revealed.

Her role with Libby on Plame was much more proactive than it's been portrayed by either of them. She was a strategist for WHIG and had a direct line to elements within Mossad that were fabricating evidence of Iran and Iran WMDs. That's why Fitz had her jailed - the CIA and FBI wanted more details that only she and her handlers knew about.

...Pentagon-based intell group known as OSI/OSP. Too many connections between her stories in the NY Times and what the OSI/OSP was doing to to make everyone think that Iraq had WMDs.

surveillance was being conducted by NSA before 9/11, and the CIA was running a domestic counter-terrorism operation involving the principal 9/11 hijackers, whom they had tracked as they entered the U.S., intentionally keeping the FBI national security unit out of the loop. All of this was (is) illegal. The main contours are coming out now because 1) the Bush-Cheney gang are going out the door; and 2) a lot of intelligence people are tired of the lies that only protect the Bush-Cheney gang and a few Congressional leaders, who also knew in general terms that the Agency was running high-risk warrantless domestic operations.

The Flt. 77 hijackers and Atta's roommate were also involved in planning the Cole attack, and the CIA and NSA tracked the former as they entered the US on 1/15/00 after the planning summit. The FBI liasison at CIA Counterterrorism Center was ordered to hold back a cable to the FBI national security unit in NY.

By running a domestic operation without the FBI and without FISA warrants, the CIA and NSA broke the law, and the whole operation went bad after Bush refused to roll up the al-Qaida cells, as Tenet was urging. That's why they covered it up, and everyone responsible wrapped themselves in the lie that there was no warning of an attack plot. These facts are all on the official record, which makes the truth sort of an open secret.

See, Scoop: UQ Wire: THE CRIMES OF 9/11 (Part 4)
In early summer 2001 , US officials received numerous warnings from domestic and foreign intelligence agencies that al-Qaeda terrorists planned ...

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00257.htm

Hi, Paul.

Deal was used as a possible payoff for fake yellow cake story. Go to GD politics and read up on that story - it's an eye opener..

total panic and most of the rest of America in a small panic. It's easy to cross the borders. If bin Ladin really wanted to bring this country to it's knees, it would be very easy. A bomb here. A bomb there. Something smells.

at the time right before 9/11 (the sniper attacks started 10/2002)- then
I understood that you were using them as an example of how vulnerable we are.
You are so right- I live in Maryland and we were all walking around looking over
our shoulders while the killers were on a rampage.

Once the Sheriff had Corporate McPravda play that line, the killers fell asleep at some rest area and got busted.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/24/national/main...

Gee, I'm shocked.

...why would anyone automatically discount MIHOP?

IMHO, if true, this article proves LIHOP at the very least.

snip:
"Even that weekend, there was lot else going on. There was always a lot going on at the White House, so to a certain extent, there was that kind of 'cry wolf' problem. But I got the sense that part of the reason that I was being told of what was going on was that the people in counter-terrorism were trying to get the word to the president or the senior officials through the press, because they were not able to get listened to themselves.
snip

Friggin *Admin was too busy vacationing to heed warnings from the likes of professional Richard Clarke and an August 2001 PDB entitled, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Within the US." The incompetence and dereliction of duty is enough to impeach this whole dumbass BushCo Admin, with or without LIHOP/MIHOP.

In this case, there was action to obstruct the efforts of officials and institutions to prevent the attacks.

LIHOP at the very least.

But rather just a little under-the-table deal involving airline tickets and box cutters between the Bush family and their good business partners the bin Ladens...

Every piece of evidence points to MIHOP!!!

And of all the people that could of prevented the planes
from hitting the WTC was the Airforce.

And with leaders like Hayden, premeditation/mihop is their
only motive.

They committed mass murder...bottom line!

It occurs to me that these freaks, should say control freaks, would never have done a LIHOP. The laws a probability are not in that favor at any rate. With all the other things we are now finding out about and have found out about in the near past, like doesn't occur to anybody we are just catching glimpses of the slithering large funk that is plodding about. A MIHOP in the very least You can also bet by the denial of bushco on the not listening into any conversation on any phone system, that is exactly what they were doing.

Pronounced "by-athe".

Bush's Incompetance Allowed It To Happen

Too Incompetent to Stop It

His Incompetence Assisted Osama’s Strike..

HILOS

His Incompetence Let Osama Strike..

They Are All Fucking Terrorists

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Why isn't the Bush administration persuing the source of this leak like they are the one today?
Thye should put Miller in jail until she gives up her source. No?

...solid information of a planned Al Qaeda attack on the U. S. If the NeoCon Junta admits that they hard concrete evidence that an attack was coming, then their whole defense about being "surprised" on 911 goes straight out the window.

That's why the NeoCons are scrambling to suppress the knowledge that the NSA was conducting widespread domestic intelligence gathering PRIOR to 911.

The evidence is overwhelming. It's a trail a mile long. From flight school to Bush in elementary school.

But Americans don't want to believe it. Well believe it.

They not only knew, they wanted it.

They made it happen just as surely as they made JFK dead.

and yep. The line between MIHOP and LIHOP is mighty fuzzy, methinks.

The names "Bush" and "Cheney" and every one of the other PNAC slimeballs will someday live in infamy.

"Don't look behind the curtain"


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I keep clicking my slippers but I'm still in Oz.

Someday we'll get back to Kansas...

Whoops.

They keep on coming out with these flaky movies and news stories, tidbits of selective information they want to use as propaganda but all the information was long ago debunked. The corporate media seems to think they can bring about a public impetus to get the public to go in some direction but have failing for the last two or three years to an ever increasing degree.

All of this hardware and tools these establishment GOP groups have in the forms of laws, organization, agencies, policy implementation and having the corporate media megaphone at their behest yet still they have got no real traction on completion their agenda. The republicans are now doing everything they ever accused democrats of doing and so much more. I say let them continue their plan, they are doing so well with it

The USA PATRIOT Act Was Planned Before 9/11
by Jennifer Van Bergen
t r u t h o u t | 20 May, 2002

Many people do not know that the USA PATRIOT Act was already written and ready to go long before September 11th. Recent criticism of Bush's admission that he had received warnings only weeks before September 11th has made it more important to understand the origins of the USAPA.

The USA PATRIOT Act - the so-called "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001," a.k.a. the USAPA -- was enacted in the immediate wake of 9/11, riding a wave of fear that spread over the nation. This Act has caused much concern amongst civil rights advocates. The Administration, however, responded to such concerns by calling critics unpatriotic. Now, the White House has had a similar response to critics of Bush's recent admission of early warnings.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Friday: "I think that any time anybody suggests or implies to the American people that this president had specific information that could have prevented the attacks on our country on September 11, that crosses the lines."
(snip)
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/05.21B.jvb.usapa.911.ht...

I believe it was Sept. 10th.

He never knew who called.

Everyone should see this video- Everyody's Gotta Learn Sometime

It's absolutely damning. Sibel Edmond's has more gag orders than any person ever. Why? What is it they don't want us to know?

he came forward and told people.

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more and links to original articles at:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=152184...

Colleen Rowley and her colleagues tried desperately to get FISA warrants -- had the CIA cooperated, 9/11 would likely have never happened. John O'Neill and those under him at the NY National Security Unit office also pressed the CIA for information about al-Midhar and al-Hazmi during the spring and summer of 2001, but to little avail. Again, they were thwarted in getting warrants to track down the al-Qaeda cell members they knew were inside the U.S. O'Neill made so much of a fuss that he was set up and forced out of the Bureau - there's a reason he took the job of head of security at the WTC just weeks before the attack, and died there on 9/11.

Those who were in charge of the office at FBI headquarters that actually seeks warrants seemed to be actively stalling the efforts of agents on the ground who had become aware of UBL cells. Very little has been made known about the role and knowledge of the FBI Directors Freed and Mueller, but it seems implausible that they were kept entirely in the dark by Tenet, DoD and the WH.

CIA seems to be involved armpit deep in the plot? They were tied to the mafia in the JFK and RFK assassinations. They were responsible for the Bay of Pigs fiasco going bad. Then there was Operation Northwoods. etc. etc. etc.

And every time, the wants and needs of the citizens of the United States are not just ignored, but actively harmed. If I ran a company that had one division that created such chaos, that division would be toast and all it's employees and operations replaced. But then I'm just a citizen, and not privy to the machinations of those that run this country.

Of course, that begs the question as to just who is directing the shadow government that is the Central Intelligence Agency?

No one seems to know.

The people who control the energy and defense industries. Check out "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man"

Porter Goss and Senator Graham, chairmen of the House and Senate intell
committees were meeting with General Ahmad on 911. Ahmad according
to Indian intelligence was the ISI operative who
paid Mohamed Atta $100,000 in the days leading up
to 911. Goss and Graham had also met with the ISI
in Pakistan in the summer of 2001. This information was ignored
by the 911 Commission Report. Goss and Graham
headed up the first congressional inquiry into 911.

Just a coincidence?

Last I checked we invaded Iraq not Pakistan

I will try to find the original Times of India link.

This can also be found at cooperativeresearch.org

between * and his "allies".

The "allies" did the neocons a favour by providing the "new Pearl Harbor" needed for their pre-emptive war policy against Iraq. In return the "allies" get extra resources for the "war on terror".

You provide us with an enemy and we'll cut you in on the war profiteering.

For now, I accuse prominent lawyers who sat on the what-went-wrong Commission with fraud - including Richard Ben-Veniste and a couple of others who I thought were trustworty.

We can't put it past this woman, Judith Miller, to lie to us. But, it may be proven that she is a national traitor. She and her paper certainly operated on behalf of PNAC and Israel, not us.

No matter what the truth, our country is a living sham. We appear to be citizens that are payiing and will be paying heavily for shams and deceptions perpetrated on us.

It appears many Democrats are complicit.

Sidepoint - observe how long it is going to take for this episode to be reported and 'explained' on PNAC tv and radio. Then observe how thick the smoke is and how the mirrors are arranged.

We are fools in their hands. They hold nothing but contempt for us.

Yes, the lies are slinking through, wrapping around, and twisting so tightly that our nation is suffocating with lies.

The citizens of this country, as ignorant and distracted as are, do not deserve PNAC and the barons who rule us and rob us blind.

the country. Read Zinn and Chomsky. There's nothing new about what's going on. The one thing that makes it so effective I believe, is the fascistic entwinement of government and media.

This is due to only one thing in my mind. That is the control of government by the corporations, thru the criminal use of campaign contribution bribery of elected officials. And the control of government by corporations is another key landmark in the slide toward fascism.

Unless something can be done about our campaign financing mess, I'm afraid its RIP for our once proud nation.

What a shame for us and the world.

the panel as the deignated Democratic leader. He's been whitewashing for the Bush administration for 25 years.

Remember how the panel was obstructed, underfunded, slow walked, and stonewalled? If Bush was surprised, why didn't he immediate call for an investigation and put the full resources of the US government into getting to the root cause.

Remember that Kissinger was Bush's 1st choice. Remember that Kean was business partners with bin Moufaz. The only 9/11 Commission was a joke designed not to investigate the root cause of 9/11. What happened to gittin' OBL and why weren't those financial swamps drained?

They knew and they let it happen.

I still maintain they got out of town because they knew something was about to come down. The month-long vacations were unplanned, unprecedented, and politically risky. I think their sole purpose was to get themselves out of harm's way.

in case Martial Law is required. Little George still does not come back to Washington. Instead, he goes to his remedial reading class in FL!

Yeah, no doubt, they, at the very least, let it happen. I suspect they aided and abetted, also. Remember, Bin Laden was a CIA asset all through the 80's.

I'm going fishing for the real thing; minnow, meet crappie, say hello to skillet.

I do not believe anything Miller baits us with.

NoFederales

that standard library practice is to keep newspapers for a while, then send them to be microfilmed. Anyone here in the NYC area got a chance to go to the NY Public Library, and confirm this?

Would be nice to see someone get a printout of that story from a microfilm machine...and then scan that into their computer...and post it...and publicly ask the NY Times why their archive conveniently won't show this story anymore!

Could embarrass the shit outta the NY Times...and, just lately, the partisan bastards deserve it, too.

Liberal media, my ass!!

Paul PM me and I'll give you my card number.

I believe it was a web-only article. Democrats.com had a big back and forth with the New York Times over them making it disappear. Copies of that discussion are floating around the web. I have access to the complete New York Times archive and it's not there, either.

We'd have the fuckers over a barrel then!

Goddamned liberal media!

for trying to subpoena all her records? see her response here: http://talkleft.com/Millerreply.pdf (pdf link).

Methinks the aspens have a case of root-rot.

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and I apologize - but what is MIHOP?

PNAC wanted a "Pearl Harbor"event.

The following extract is from the Alternet article. Bear in mind two things about the Cole attack. 1) That operation was planned in January 2000 in Kuala Lumpur by a group that included the Flt. 77 hiajckers and Atta's roommate. The CIA learned about it when the NSA intercepted calls from Nawaf Al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Midahar as they prepared to travel to Kuala Lumpur -- that pair would go on to hijack Flt. 77 that crashed into the Pentagon. 2) Al-Hazmi and Al-Midhar entered the US at LAX on 1/15/00 - the CIA noted that entry, and the FBI liason at CTC was ordered to withhold a cable to the FBI national security office in NY commanded by John O'Neill.

Despite the fact that CIA knew the pair were in the US, the Agency never requested FISA warrants to intercept their calls. Al-Hazmi, a Yemeni, left that summer and went on to play an active role in the Cole operation,returning to the US in March 2001. His partner, al-Midhar, stayed in the US and met up with the other main hijackers on several occasions, and received money from sources including the Saudi embassy and a Indonesian businessman who also gave $40,000 to Moussaoui. Zakaria had stayed at the same house in Kuala Lumpur owned by the businessman where the al-Qaeda planning summit had occurred in January 2000, a meeting the CIA had monitored along with "a half dozen allied agencies".

How did Able Danger learn about the so-called Brooklyn Cell? Able Danger had access to classified DoD files, which presumably included the NSA intercepts of al-Hazmi and al-Midhar. Quite clearly, if surveillance on the the Flt. 77 hijackers (and there's no plausible reason that monitoring wouldn't have continued), the Able Danger project had advance warning of the attack operations on U.S. military targets -- the USS Cole, and likely also the Pentagon. Under the force protection exception, NSA could have conducted warrantless taps on the al-Qaeda cell inside the U.S., and that would be in the domestic NSA intercept files available to Able Danger.

Despite the fact that the intended attacks on U.S. military targets would be well-understood, for some reason that still hasn't been explained, President George W. Bush refused to have the pair and their al-Qaeda cellmates inside the US -- known to Able Danger as the "Brooklyn Cell" -- arrested during the summer of 2001. See, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/28/121022/933

Bear that in mind when you read the following: http://www.alternet.org/story/36388 /

On Oct. 12, 2000, the guided missile destroyer USS Cole pulled into harbor for refueling in Aden, Yemen. Less than two hours later, suicide bombers Ibrahim al-Thawr and Abdullah al-Misawa approached the ship's port side in a small inflatable craft laden with explosives and blew a 40-by-40-foot gash in it, killing 17 sailors and injuring 39 others. The attack on the Cole, organized and carried out by Osama bin Laden's Al Qaida terrorist group, was a seminal but still murky and largely misunderstood event in America's ongoing "Long War."

Two weeks prior, military analysts associated with an experimental intelligence program known as ABLE DANGER had warned top officials of the existence of an active Al Qaida cell in Aden, Yemen. And two days before the attack, they had conveyed "actionable intelligence" of possible terrorist activity in and around the port of Aden to Gen. Pete Schoomaker, then commander in chief of the U.S. Special Operation Command (SOCOM).

The same information was also conveyed to a top intelligence officer at the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), headed by the newly appointed Gen. Tommy Franks. As CENTCOM commander, Franks oversaw all U.S. armed forces operations in a 25-country region that included Yemen, as well as the Fifth Fleet, to which the Cole was tasked. It remains unclear what action, if any, top officials at SOCOM and CENTCOM took in response to the ABLE DANGER warnings about planned Al Qaida activities in Aden harbor.

None of the officials involved has ever spoken about the pre-attack warnings, and a post-attack forensic analysis of the episode remains highly classified and off-limits within the bowels of the Pentagon. Subsequent investigations exonerated the Cole's commander, Kirk Lippold, but Lippold's career has been ruined nonetheless. He remains in legal and professional limbo, with a recommended promotion and new command held up for the past four years by political concerns and maneuvering.

Meanwhile, no disciplinary action was ever taken against any SOCOM or CENTCOM officials. Schoomaker was later promoted out of retirement to chief of staff, U.S. Army, and Franks went on to lead the combat operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Overseas military votes were held back or "misplaced" etc., etc. as a result of this attack.

On edit, these ballots were missing postmarks and were thrown out. A lot of fuss was made by the Republicans screaming bloody murder that the "Democrats were trying to steal the election" - the old wag-the-dog scenario we have all become so familiar with.

There was a strange remark made by Bush on this matter but it quickly disappeared from the MSM - will try to locate.

Just as a reminder - here's an article about the military ballots

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_I...

Isn't it interesting that DOD's Kenneth Bacon appears to be so sorry about the mix up, denies a conspiracy and yet he is described as being Monica Lewinsky's boss who (if you follow the links) was the man who "leaked" the Linda Tripp tapes about the Clinton/Lewinsky affair. He was slated for criminal prosecution for doing so but was simply reprimanded..

Anyway - back to looking for Bush remark..

4 weeks before the election. I wonder how many votes got swayed by that event? Reminds me of the Iranian hostage situation.

***And they had been talking to one another, supposedly expressing disappointment that the United States had not chosen to retaliate more seriously against what had happened to the Cole. And one Al Qaida operative was overheard saying to the other, 'Don't worry; we're planning something so big now that the U.S. will have to respond.***

So essentially this is confirmation that the Bush administration played right into their hands by their actions after 9/11, right?

Even if the government absolutley knew that a attack of unknown means was planned for the first weeks of September how could they stop it? I'm not a terrorist but if I were to attack us I can think of 100 ways in 1000 places that this attack could be successfull. Even if they suspected planes were to be hijacked the only recourse would be to basically shut down the airline industry or profile every Muslim getting on a plane in the United States. How would this board have reacted to that. All this LIHOP and MIHOP stuff is counterproductive to moving forward. Let us not forget that in 2001 we had control of the some of the intel committies and our representitives didnt help us much either.

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Maybe you blame a 5 post newbie for getting in your way. Fine. Pick on me instead. Can flame me all you want. But this person said nothing that warrants biting his or her head off and using the words "little lemming". You replied rudely to a polite post and that is not cool.

counterproductive, not pointing it out. "Conspiracy, like "liberal" has become a negative word, when it should not be.

Main Entry: con·spir·a·cy
Pronunciation: k&n-'spir-&-sE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -cies
Etymology: Middle English conspiracie, from Latin conspirare
1 : the act of conspiring together
2 a : an agreement among conspirators b : a group of conspirators
synonym see PLOT

and to clarify conspiring:

Main Entry: con·spire
Pronunciation: k&n-'spIr
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): con·spired; con·spir·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French conspirer, from Latin conspirare to be in harmony, conspire, from com- + spirare to breathe
transitive senses : PLOT, CONTRIVE
intransitive senses
1 a : to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement b : SCHEME
2 : to act in harmony toward a common end <circumstances conspired to defeat his efforts>


Still, to make you happy so we can all hold hands and sing Kumbaya at the end of the day while this world approaches a man-made Armageddon, I removed the lemming allusions.

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...if anyone "who connects into the network" had any information pending somewhere, and formally welcome them to come forward and "reply to this (or these) emails" in order to check if there was "weird" stories known to some agents out there. I am certain the Moussaoui (sp?) case would have been quickly "connected" (you know, that lazy Pilot student with a $25,000 bond that wants to learn how to fly commercial Boeing's, but absolutely refuses to take any lessons about "how to take off, and how to land" such an airplane!! Then? Eazy... Raid all flight schools, or/and connect the dots about everything "Able Danger")...

I have no doubt whatsoever that President Al Gore would have READ the August 6, 2001 PDB (unlike little king George wannabee) and that he would have acted intelligently on it, with his staff (see hint above), and that thousands upon thousands of victims would still be alive and well today... Not to mention all the other good things the real President would have accomplished (particularly, about Global Warming, and about the levees in New Orleans also).

Welcome to DU!

Conspiracies happen ALL THE TIME. Most of the time they are minor and never found out. Some do come out, however. A few off the top of my head...

Plan to overthrow FDR by Rich Fascists in this country

Bush's Granddaddy's bank trading whit the Nazi's until FDR shut them down

Watergate

"October Surprise", Reagan's team illegally negotiating with Ir anion hostage takers behind President Jimmy Carter's back to help throw the 1980 election.

Destruction of Labor movement started under Reagan and continued under every Republican House, Senate and now Bu$hitCo.

Supply Side Economics as a means of robbing from the poor and giving to the rich. David Stockholm admitted as much.

Greenspan -- pushing to shore up Social Security, a regressive tax on the backs of the poor and middle class; then using the surplus to hide record deficits starting under Regean on to this day; then being for raiding this real prepaid money via "privatization" (i.e. steal from the commons and give to the few). Conspiracy? You decide, I already have.

Personal Destruction of Bill Clinton documented in so many ways, even a book/movie "Hunting of the President"

Iraq War Lies

Swiftboating of John Kerry. Perhaps not illegal, but a conspiracy all the same.

Phone Jamming scandal with links right to the White House.

Destruction of Government as a viable tool of promoting social good and stability under Bu$hitCo

Agenda of creating a ruling elite over the last 40 years by Right Wing ultra conservatives through systematic weakening of laws, media ownership rules, etc.

Enron, Tyco, Adelphia, Goldman Sachs, etc.

Jack Abromoff

Randy Duke Cunningham

Tom Delay

Many more Repuglican criminals to come.

Valerie Plame

Our crappy, controlled corporate newsmedia. Is it criminal? If not, it should be!

Covering up Cheney's drunken binge and the SS preventing local Police from questioning him that night when he shot that guys face!

Electronic Voting -- let's face it, exit polls, once a gold standard of measuring fair elections have been wrong in the last several elections. What's the big difference? Electronic voting and compromised optical scan machines.


Imagine what isn't known....!

All facts and "investigations" thus far can easily support the worst possibilities and do nothing to absolve these criminals of Bu$hitCo.

Start with David Ray Griffin's "New Pearl Harbor".

That isn't really so shocking when you realize that has always been the essential mission of U.S. Navy destroyers.

What's really shocking is that the Pentagon attack and other 9/11 suicide hijackings actually occurred, given all that was known about the "Planes Operation" at the White House and at the highest levels of military and civilian intelligence.

And by keeping George W. Bush in power, they are doing more to destroy America than any attack on our soil could achieve.

version sound real. I think they are worried about folks catching on to the WH 9-11 conspiracy. AlQaeda, right, that's the ticket!

The info in this post a refreshing break from all the wild eyed conspiracy theories permeating DU.

I think this post sheds light about information, timing, culpability that history should note and never forget.

Our country has been hijacked. MSM has failed us miserably.

If this story could be told in a simple logical fashion somewhere big....The details are very credible. It just might get legs again.

John Q Public is not happy. Defectors within the intel community would jump. The time is right.

Most of this stuff about prior warnings has been on the public record since the Joint Intelligence Committee hearings and report published way back in October 2002. See Paul's Cooperative Research site; also, GOOGLE: Mark G. Levey

Paul and some others have been devoting themselves to getting the facts out to the public. Some editors and writes in the MSM are well aware of what actually happened, but until recently, everyone was just plain scared shitless of Bush-Cheney and a Rovian counter-attack. Nobody wants to get fired from their cushy jobs, so it's been left to those of us who are already fired or retired to get the word out.

... the reading of "My Pet Goat", when Card whispers in his ear... Does that look like the face of a shocked and wounded leader...? HA! Remember what happened when Michael Moore tried to tell everybody that the Chimp knew? He was just about leveled to the status of a madman...

No secret service swooping in to get him out of harms way. As far as MIHOP, LIHOP at this point in time they are basically the same thing.

the lives and well being of all the kids there!

Imagine that, imagine that... Unless, he "knew" they were not at risk??

That's it.

I think you drew that conclusion yourself. I think Moore was pretty much pointing out that Bush had ties to OBL etc.

Also the only people who thought Moore was a madman were. . .uh. . Freeper madmen.

REAL story someday....

comes out about Bushco and the people who have bolstered and supported this mis-administration, I find I'm at a loss for words. I know I shouldn't be surprised any more at anything that is reported, but I think what bothers me the most is that America as a whole hasn't stood up and in one loud voice screamed ENOUGH!!! Maybe they are and it's not being reported since the majority of the MSM is still kissing Bush's ass. At this point, I guess the only thing that would boot him out would be a BJ in the WH and catching it on film.

Seems that's the only thing that causes any outrage with the general public anymore--at least according to the MSM.

I think the fact that she's coming out with this story now is indicative of two things--neither of which have much to do with the elevation of Hayden to CIA director. First, it's a swipe at the NYT for failing to print an important story that might have lit a fire under Bushco re the al Qaida threat, which, at the time, they weren't taking seriously. Second, I think it's further evidence of a major rift between the Bushco/neocon lobes of the Republican power structure. Miller's clear message here is that Bush/Cheney weren't paying attention--and were therefore dangerously incompetent.

You are a true American hero and patriot.

But as most of the results of his talking with God seem to help the terrorists he must be talking with Allah. Hold your flames, I was in Colbert mode.
I've thrown back at the cultists that I could play their verbal games and claim that the terrorists waited until they had the right pasty in office until they unleashed their big attack so as to maximize their return on the attack. Hyperbole, meet reality.
So why do we need to have illegal domestic spying if they don't listen to the intel they have on known terrorists? Just more evidence that the domestic spying is in the best tradition of the republican party's Nixon mold and they are spying on the people they need to spy on in order to monitor and suppress their political opponents and whistle blowers.

Welcome to DU

For those of you who can't believe they'd sit on Rove's indictment.
Of course this happened - I noticed the 180 degree in the NYT coverage in day 4 after 911 - from "You a*hole" to "our wartime preznit, supported by 90% of population, bigger than Churchill, FDR + Napoleon rolled into one.
And it worked. And emboldened them further.
Never fprget this revelation:


''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And
while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll
act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and
that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you,
all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''
Bush aide to Ron Suskind

It'll keep you sane.

...on the way down. Judith Miller definitely "Jumped the Shark" a while ago.

I've read several times (although I don't have sources on hand) that Clinton's advisors specifically warned Bush's that they were worried about an al Qaeda attack in the not-too-distant future. Furthermore, the planes-as-bombs theory had also already been discussed by the NSA.

on journalists ? A FOIA may be necessary, huh ? Discrimination lawsuit liberal journalists vs. conservative/neocon-shills...

Firstfruits was instituted pre-9/11 btw.

long time fan. you do great work. Thanks for pointing out this update. And thanks Alternet.

I compiled a list of NSA Domestic Spying Articles, and hosting them on my Server here. (You know Internet News: Here one minute, and gone the next.)

http://truth4you.no-ip.org/special/nsa.html

I love you all! Vote DEMS!

Luke Nichols
Princeton, WV

Never forget: Judith Miller is a terrorist. She was hired to create war against innocent people. She wouldn't hesitate to murder any one or all of you under the command of Cheney or Rumsfeld. In addition to participating in mass murder, she is also known for participating in torture and espionage.

Judith Miller is your enemy. Don't ever forget it.

I heard an author of a new book about the media and 9-11 talk about the NYTimes. He said the editor was bending over backwards to try to prove that the NYTimes was not a liberal paper. He also said that the Administration loved to use Judith Miller. They would leak a false story to her, she would get it published on the front page, and then the Administration officials would go onto Meet the pPess, hold up the New York Times and say: "See, this is what the authoritative New York Times is saying."

She was given preferential access to the Bush administration in an effort to SILENCE her about this information!!

OMG!!

This explains why she went from being a decent reporter to being a RW shill for the Iraq war!!

She thought she was a hot shit getting direct information from the propaganda machine and sleeping with important men!

This woman was taken advantage of and bought into a fantasy that she was somehow "special".

This is creepy.

Sleep with dogs...

This story is very representative of the pushers of hate and those who get caught up in the web.

I don't remember ever learning what these mean. Help someone?

Its actually a false dichotomy because if they felt secure and in control
of the outcome enough to let it happen, they in essence made it happen.

Welcome to the DU TheLeftyMom

needs to keep in front of the media eye if she is to fuel her career, just like everybody else. Plus, she is pissed off at the Bush Administration.

Not even the fact that Bushco had warning is the important story - it somehow filtered to us anyway.
The story is the magnitude of the control over the media - the complete lack of accountability this administration has.
Can you imagine? Remember those days? To sit on a story like this?
Rove's indictmet is peanuts compared to that.
So, not only they kept the fuck-up from us, they made 911 into a W virtue. a feather in his cap! behold, the war preznit!
I remember comments when Clinton was shown at that religious pageant W staged to celebrate 911 how the commentator s said "Clinton must be jealous - he never had a glorious moment like W did to raise up to" (I think it was Saphire)

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I am NOT a MIHOP/LIHOP conspiracist, but I have a theory on Osama that this seems to support. If you read Helter Skelter about Charles Manson, you may remember that Chuckie killed in order to pin it on blacks to foment what he thought was an inevitable race war, and that he would be on the winning side.

I really, truly think this was Osama's intent as well - he wanted to start a crusade so that the Muslim world would rise up and whup the Westerners. So how did Bush respond? By giving al Qaeda PRECISELY what they wanted - an invasion to "prove" intent. Not only that, but we invaded a secularist country and essentially turned it over to fundamentalists as a "democracy." AND we have little hope of improving the view of the US in the Muslim world REGARDLESS of the outcome of Iraq.

This shows what an incompetent bunch of arrogant dickheads can do for foreign policy - allow a terrorist's actions to have exactly the intended result. THAT'S why they haven't attacked us again - they met their objective.

Funny thing, but notice this story says the terrorists were "disappointed" that the response wasn't larger?