Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators

[Rose Siding]

Saturday 13 May 2006

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove.

During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.

Robert Luskin, Rove's attorney, did not return a call for comment. Sources said Fitzgerald was in Washington, DC, Friday and met with Luskin for about 15 hours to go over the charges against Rove, which include perjury and lying to investigators about how and when Rove discovered that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA operative and whether he shared that information with reporters, sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said.

It was still unknown Saturday whether Fitzgerald charged Rove with a more serious obstruction of justice charge. Sources close to the case said Friday that it appeared very likely that an obstruction charge against Rove would be included with charges of perjury and lying to investigators.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051306W.shtml

[maseman]

1. Holy Shit Batman

Maybe this is the holy grail we've been waiting for? Could it be? Huh? HUH?

I am popping some popcorn and drinking some Bass Ale as we speak.

[buff2]

6. I just ate dinner and don't have any room for popcorn

but damn.......I FEEL GRRRRREAT!!!!!!! :hi:

[caligirl]

58. Mai Tai time baby!

[No Exit]

96. White House frantically calling basketball teams for tall, thin, swarthy

bearded player who is interested in dressing up in A-rab robes and appearing on camera during Monday news cycle... "Karl Rove Ind----OH MY GOD THEY CAPTURED BIN LADEN!!!"

[jlworrall]

141. Where's Bush's Indictment

Just wondering.

[uppityperson]

2. Any other reporting other than TruthOut? btw, I like TruthOut

waiting for confirmation before celebrating.

[Rose Siding]

4. I don't see anything-

This would be a pretty ridiculous limb to climb onto if the story's a dog.

[NI4NI]

28. Leopold's creditability is at stake

[Seabiscuit]

82. Leopold's sources' reliability are at stake.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

93. Bingo. The attacks on Leopold have gotten old.

[Harper_is_Bush]

110. What "attacks"?

His credibility IS at stake.

Will Pitt himself has said they're putting themselves on the line over this. It is a simple fact, and perfectly acceptable to state it. You are falsely portraying others as "attacking" Leopold and truthout.

It is a disturbing reaction to a healthy questioning of information.

[brentspeak]

86. Then why did you post it here on LBN?

It belongs in GD or GD-Politics for the time being.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

92. Just to...

...piss you off. Looks like it worked.

[starmaker]

37. Gonzales at Fri grand jury?

a possibility unconfirmed would have alerted White House
as before Liddy indictment.

[jbnow]

49. Not on Fitz's site yet

I suspect this to be true...but I wait for Fitzgerald and then I will know.

[MeDeMax]

59. links to other sources

there are several of them now ... ( Sat 20:30 eastern )


"Karl Rove indicted on perjury, lying to investigators"

<http://www.newshounds.us/2006/05/13/karl_rove_indicted_on_perjury_lying_to_investigators.php>


"Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted"

<http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jason_le_060513_rove_informs_white_h.htm>


Visit http://news.google.com and type in "Karl Rove Perjury" or just "Karl Rove".

[uppityperson]

62. First is TruthOut article, second Rove says he will.

Not other source yet. I have been googling "rove indicted" and nothing new, just links to the Leopold article.

[OKIsItJustMe]

71. And Second is written by Leopold

That doesn't mean I don't believe it. However, at the very least he is way out in front of the pack.

[MeDeMax]

108. try again, still by reference though ...

arianna huffington is reporting on yahoo, referring to truthout:

"Bob Cesca: Truthout Reporting That Karl Rove Was Indicted"

<http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060514/cm_huffpost/020957>

[pitohui]

68. i would like to see this in the conventional media

otherwise it's just more rumor mongering really

if rove is indicted it would not be a secret known only to truthout, sorry

[Harper_is_Bush]

109. Interesting you felt the need

to qualify your legitimate question.

No, thus far there is no other reporting other than TruthOut.

[nolies32fouettes]

138. can you please read my blog.

I've written about it too. (Plus, reading my blog goes for a good cause and a hard working student trying to pay for college.)

http://www.progressiveu.org/133433-more-endictments-in-the-plame-scandal-will-rove-get-what-he-deserves

[Cooley Hurd]

3. K&R - happydancing furiously!

:woohoo:

[Rose Siding]

5. Hold me!

:woohoo:

[Justice Is Comin]

17. Hold me too.

:woohoo:

[TerdlowSmedley]

38. Bay of Pigs?

[buff2]

7. Well,looks like ANOTHER bad week for the little

bu$h kid. Hope everyone's talking about this Monday instead of his precious little speech! LOL

[Faygo Kid]

8. What!?! Is anyone else reporting this?

I have some good friends on the east side of Detroit (hometown)to whom I would like to introduce Karl once he is in prison.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

9. I'm thinking the timing of his speech was planned for Monday as

a distraction because * knows the indictment will be handed down then. No?

[Faygo Kid]

12. Mighty fine thinking, I would say

Everything is in flux. Sunday papers, despite the desperate apologias for Bush, might actually be interesting. Put the coffee on.

[yourout]

16. Ms Plame is a fine looking spy.

Joe W is a lucky guy.

[Faygo Kid]

30. I got to meet him, and spend time talking with him. A twinkle there.

I thoroughly enjoyed it; he is a bright conversationalist who makes you feel like there is no one else in the world that counts but you when you converse. And you do converse. And he has, and he is no youngster, this twinkle in his eye. I think I know where that comes from. As The Monkees sang, Valerie. I would twinkle too.

[calimary]

40. Actually, he's not too rough on the eyes, either.

At least for me. She's a lucky gal. AND he's probably the best husband of the New American Century. Certainly Husband-of-the-Year. john mccain could take loyal, devoted husband lessons from Joseph Wilson, who stood by his wife and defended her honor when she'd been assaulted by these people. mccain went and hugged and kissed the guy who led the charge against his wife and their adopted daughter. john mccain evidently had no problem with that. THIS wife, mother, and adopted daughter will NOT forget that. Joseph Wilson is the kind of husband I'd like to have - and in fact, I'm happy to say I actually DO have.

[Faygo Kid]

46. He probably has hair, too. Joe Wilson has lots of hair. Damn.

I know it's the hair. Oh well, us "thinning" older gentleman are hardly done.

[calimary]

137. Few sentients sexier than Captain Picard.

:D

[wordpix2]

119. touche'

[shrike]

142. I agree

Patriotic AND handsome. What more could you ask for?

[Seabiscuit]

83. Ms. Plame is also a lucky lady. Joe W sure went to bat for her.

Fitz wouldn't be working this case at all, much less going after Rove if it weren't for Joe's persistent determination to vindicate what the bastards did to his wife.

[northofdenali]

89. She is more than lovely. She has another very elusive quality -

class.

[henslee]

114. I'd spill my guts to her in a sec.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

52. Not in DC

The Washington Post Sunday edition was printed up on Friday night.

How do you like that for timely, huh?

[splat]

66. WaPo front section doesn't print Friday night

Just the features sections and non-breaking news. Page one prints last, the last page to close, late Satuday night.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

69. Au contraire

My A section was delivered this afternoon.

They're shameless.

[SoCalDem]

35. Split screen, anyone? Rover will get the bigger split

:)

Poor little Snowman...bet his "new kid" routine is OVER :)

[cmutt]

61. bingo

Thinking that this speech was staged for a politically gainful date isn't a stretch by any means. Take a look at the great pains this administration takes to paint and frame information. I've been thinking the illegal immigration issue as a whole has been nothing but an attempt to steer public attention away from the war, the economy, and Bush's abysmal leadership and onto something that he can manage and spin. If the Rove is cuffed on Monday, then it will only further cement my view on this matter.

I'm hoping turd-blossom will enjoy a few years at a F.P.M.I.T.A. prison.

[BooScout]

10. Not yet....it's been on GD for a while....

Will Pitt posted about it..........everyone is waiting for the MSM to confirm.

[Faygo Kid]

15. Many thanks. Sometimes we here at DU forget to thank others

when we ask for an answer to a question. So I thank you. Mom taught me that is what I am supposed to do, and she was right.


http://www.alternet.org/images/managed/Story+Image_thumb_051006_story1.jpg

[BooScout]

20. Why thanks........for thanking me, lol.

;)

[leftchick]

11. Has this made tv "NEWS" yet?

I have been outside gardening trying to forget ameriKKa. Then I come in and see this! I have flipped the channels and ZERO! Do they think if they ignore it it will go away?? That idiot Lynn on CNN is the WORST! :puke:

[babylonsister]

13. She is so sickly cheerful; I feel likewise. Nothing yet on TV, but

I hope your gardening was fun! We've been playing outside today as well. :hi:

[leftchick]

26. thank you!

it is the only thing that distracts my mind from the BFEE and their assorted scandals. I hope this makes the evening news at least.

:)

[wordpix2]

120. a little discussion Sun. on Tweety's show re: "IF Rove gets indicted,"

but nothing substantial

[liberal N proud]

14. And another wheel is coming off the bus?

I do so enjoy watching the bu$h regime crashing.

[NI4NI]

31. Crash and Burn Baby, Burn!

Bushco Inferno!

[Vidar]

18. Finally official, thank God!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

19. K & R....and....

...I'm waiting for the usual suspects to join this thread to continue their ceaseless assault on the varacity of Jason Leopold, Truthout, and Will Pitt.

[caledesi]

21. I am ready for my close-up, Mr. Deville.....

[Tempest]

22. Happy Fitzmas!

A little late, but better than never.

[libhill]

23. Get a rope -

hang the bastard for treason...

[petgoat]

25. Save him for The Hague nt

[Cocoa]

24. I don't believe it

it doesn't seem like the way an indictment would happen.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

53. It isn't

Don't believe it.

[bbgrunt]

64. Nothing is "true" unless it's on FUX

[jazzjunkysue]

77. It's exactly how it would happen.

This administration isn't swift enough or honorable enough to spit it out from their own podium. None of them will be the spokesperson for this. None of them will own their treachery. They're all babies. Period.

[pnwmom]

27. Does anyone know why Fitzgerald and Luskin would have

met for 15 hours on Friday to "go over charges"? Is this a normal thing for a prosecutor and a defendant's attorney to do?

[rodeodance]

29. this is a dupe=Already under Greatest:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1179819

[Rose Siding]

34. Some DUers (like me)

browse LBN more frequently than Greatest, and dupes in different forums are ok.

[Rose Siding]

42. Jeralyn at TalkLeft says they may have been hammering out a plea

that failed-

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014833.html

Update: Jason said the meeting lasted 15 hours. That tells me they were hammering out a plea deal to the charges. Were they successful in coming to terms? Stay tuned.

Update: I'm still thinking out the scenarios. If I had to take bets, I'd say efforts at a plea agreement failed. Why? This line from Jason's report:

instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.

It sounds to me like they went round and round for hours and weren't able to come to a meeting of the minds. So my take is Karl Rove will be fighting the Indictment.

[Divine Discontent]

44. My Mom says

"ya never know, they may be working out a deal... what that deal is would be anyone's guess"

I like to think the deal is for serving up Cheney or Bush to protect his weasly self!




www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <------ CHECK IT OUT!

[ebayfool]

67. Love the Lewinsky tag!

I gotta do me some shopping at your link! (warisprofitable)

Mom's are smart - tell yours 'Happy Moms Day' from another mom!

[Divine Discontent]

167. thank you DU!!

youre helping a mighty good cause...


www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

[OldLeftieLawyer]

54. Oh, please

This is not how things are done in matters like this.

People believe what they need to believe, and it always surprises me.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

94. Did Leopold state that they spent all 15 hours on Friday?

[fjc]

32. Can't be.

If this were so, the MSM would be all over it like white on rice. If this turns out to be
true, Mr. Leopold is made. If not, people should stop listening to him. This article looks like one of those career decisions. Moreover, if it turns out not to be the case, I'll be really pissed at him for getting my hopes up.

[JWS]

33. If this isn't true

I am going to kick all ya'all butts for playing with my emotions.

[Seabiscuit]

84. If this is all a truthout.org hoax (and I'm not aware of any previous

hoaxes from truthout) then I'll never read another word either Messieurs Pitt or Leopold write again.

OTOH, if it's true, I'll kiss Leopold's ass in public and never criticize Pitt again.

[Gregorian]

36. Flush that turd!

[meganmonkey]

39. I can't imagine Leopold would stake his entire career on this story

if he weren't absolutely confident in his sources. Aside from my own deep desire for this to be true, I don't believe that, at this point in his career, Leopold would commit the royal fuck-up of getting this wrong.

Which means it must be true. And it also means that Leopold is about to be the next rock star of journalism. Good for him! :)

:party:

[OKNancy]

48. He has had "source problems" in his past

I hope it's true, but being an LBN person, I'll wait until MSM picks it up before I start celebrating

[1932]

41. if truthout were drudgereport, and Rove were Lewinsky, this story would

be all over MSM by now.

[Rose Siding]

43. That is so true

I'm only seeing it on a few blogs so far. Traditional media never picked up TO's last story about Rove having told bush and bolten about an impending indictment, did they?

[cbear70]

45. do you think its odd

Or maybe not come to think of it.. but my hubby and I were discussing this and find it so ludicrous that the whitewater scandal, monica... all over the news but this administation.. between Rove, Foggo...and everyone else not a word..it just really pisses me off...

just had to vent

[wishlist]

51. Frustrating that speculation on Duke case gets lots more attention n/t

[Evergreen Emerald]

63. That is exactly what I was thinking...this goes to the top

of the administration, involving outing a spy who was working on protecting us from WMDs. "Bush's Brain" is indicted. This is big news, and yet our "free press" hides it from the public. Remember Clinton coverage? Non-stop 24-7 coverage over a blow-job.

This was worse than the friday dump. This was the saturday slip.

[Ksec]

47. WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Odin2005]

50. MERRY FITZMAS!!!

:toast: :bounce: :woohoo: :party: :wow:

[kurth]

55. So, it took Fitzgerald FIFTEEN (15) hours to say

"Here are the charges. See ya in court"?

[LiberalEsto]

56. Frogmarch in 24 hours?

Merry Fitzmas to all, and to all a good indictment.

[jazzjunkysue]

78. What he said.

[Blue_Tires]

57. oh, happy day!

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

60. I will say this:

If Jason is right, the world is truly his oyster.

If Jason is wrong? Jeebus H. Christmas...and I think my life is hard...

[mcscajun]

132. His Oyster? Not likely...

If Jason Leopold is right, he'll get no credit in the Corporate Media. If they mention the story as originating outside their world at all, it will be as a namelss blog or website, or one of their favorite phrases, "the blogosphere has been abuzz with the story".

If Jason Leopold is wrong, the Corporate Media may mention his site and his name in passing, nothing more. Limbaugh, Hannity and the Freepers, OTOH, will declare a holiday and go crazy talking about the "lunatic left" (again).

[AnneD]

65. Hot Damn....

I won't pop the cork until I hear it on MSM (they can't deny this story). I have been following this saga since it first hit the net and MSM. I told folks back then that this had the potential to equal Watergate (this was before the latest NSA flap). Shortly after it came out, Wilson was on with Chris Matthews.

Now, I remember his standoff with Saddam before the first Gulf War. I thought the guy had balls then. But when I heard him talking with Chris-I knew Bush had bit off more than he could chew. To use a quaint expression...his words were iron. He resonated truth. I believed everything he said and have never wavered from that. The guy was an awesome civil servant for this country-and his wife was even more so-if you could imagine that. This whole affair has pissed me off. Outing your own people and exposing them to retaliation for petty, self serving revenge is the worst form of cowardice.

The CIA rank and file have long memories and long knives, which is why the Bush Admin. was so hot to gut it and create a lap dog agency. They have done the unthinkable and politicized and polarized the CIA. Can't get good info from a polarized source.

[journalist3072]

70. I so hope this is true

Does anyone know the story on Leopold? Is he credible? What's his track record been?

[Critters2]

72. Someone please make this official!!

Please!!!

[Seabiscuit]

81. Fitz either will or won't sometime this week. Or not. I think he will.

[Azathoth]

73. The article contradicts itself

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove. During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.

...then a couple paragraphs down...

Speaking on condition of anonymity Friday night, sources confirmed Rove's indictment was imminent.

So which is it? Was Rove indicted, or is an indictment 'imminent'?

[Seabiscuit]

87. You noticed that too? And...

"Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove..."

vs.

Fitz spent "15 hours" talking to Rove's lawyer Friday.

Which is it - 15 hours (all day) or "more than half a day"???

The article doesn't pass the smell test.

[dchill]

98. Well...

15 hours is more than half a day, isn't it?

[Seabiscuit]

115. Yes, but "half a day" connotes 4 hours (half a work day), and

a full day connotes 8 hours (a full work day). 15 hours is a whole lot more than that. I've never heard "more than half a day" referred to as meaning "15 hours" before in my life. I've never known anyone who talks that way. And how on earth could Fitzgerald spend 15 hours with Rove's attorney in 1 day, and why on earth would he waste that amount of time when all he needs to do is serve the papers on him? The story doesn't make sense.

[dchill]

97. Possibly it means that...

an announcement of Rove's indictment was imminent. I really believe this is true - especially since Gonzo made an appearance at the courthouse.

[Azathoth]

99. That's a pretty bad wording error for a story of this importance

Mistakes like that are the reason people fail their ninth grade journalism class. Somehow, I don't think that's the case here.

[dchill]

111. Your high school had a ...

ninth grade journalism class? Not mine - but that was 1966 and kinda in the boondocks... We DID have a 12th-grade Government class, though, but it didn't cover anything remotely like the Rovester's case. (Cheney's case.)

Anyway, other blogs are reporting Rove's imminent indictment, "either today or Monday" - with several congressional sources. I guess "today" is out, since it's now yesterday, so I'm betting Monday.

No, I don't eat hats, so don't ask.
:)

[Barrett808]

106. Didn't Leopold get burned by that fake Enron memo from Gen. White?

That was rather embarrassing, if memory serves.

[Azathoth]

107. Yup

Leopold may have made other mistakes (I honestly haven't followed his reporting close enough to know), but the Enron memo is the one that always comes up when his credibility is questioned.

[wordpix2]

121. indicted or imminent indictment: either way, not good news for Rover*

but great news for US

[jazzjunkysue]

74. Happy Mother's day!

[Stevendsmith]

75. So Leopold scooped every other reporter, with all their resources

and contacts?

This is ridiculous black helicopter bullshit.

I'm sorry, but this is a big stretch.

I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong.

Where's H20 Man? What's his take?

[goodboy]

76. Get ready for some kind of terror attack or some other distraction

[meisje]

79. If this is Bullshit, Truthout should be banned from DU!

[Freddie Stubbs]

153. As apperently Wayne Madsen already is

[robcon]

161. Banning Truthout would be stupid, IMO.

We don't ban the NYT because Jayson Blair lied, nor USAToday because Kelly lied, nor and other publication whose editors didn't catch lying writers immediately.

We should let Truthout tell whatever stories they have to tell. We are adults - each Duer can evaluate the stories with or without a jaundiced eye, as each of us wants. Banning is the refuge of a scoundrel, IMO.

[lavenderdiva]

80. proud to be #30 to Recommend!

WooHoo!!! I have been waiting for this day for the looonnnnnnggggggeesssssssttttt time! Can't wait to see the frogmarch- :woohoo: :popcorn:

[brentspeak]

85. Mods: Please take this off LBN -- unsubstantiated story, and from a blog

[oioioi]

88. BS, not LBN

[Tiggeroshii]

90. I'm sorry?

How are you so sure? Everything Leopold's said has come out to be true...

How are you so sure this is a first?

[oioioi]

102. There's plenty posted to call this into question

It just doesn't ring true.

I am not sure. But without some kind of verification, neither should anybody else be.

This looks like a deliberate setup. There is just no way that there would not be *some* verification. Nobody is touching it.

On the balance of probabilities, it's BS.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

91. That's your opinion, isn't it?

[oioioi]

103. I think a reasonably sound one, yes.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

123. Based on what, exactly?

[oioioi]

129. um... a deafening silence from ANY other sources, for starters

Plus there's a history of blowharding on the part of some of the folks involved.

[dchill]

95. Remember, it's NOT BS...

if you believe it. (Paraphrasing George Costanza)

BTW, I do believe it.

[oioioi]

104. Truthiness.

[dchill]

112. ...is where you find it.

[BadGimp]

100. I remember saying to myself..

Back when this story broke, after I had seen some of the blogosphere's reaction, it occured to me that this might be the one things that brings this cabal down.

The hubris they exhibited during and after this scandal lays bare the blatant and criminal disregard for the Consitution, the rule of law and the lives of Americans who will not do and say as the Bushistas see fit.

For me personally however the best part of this is that today is my birthday! Thank you Gebus for the lovely gift ;)

And now for a little video humor break:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v102/ronsheridan/?action=view¤t=sinking.flv

[lovuian]

101. I'm so proud of Fitz for going for Obstruction of justice

love him!!!:pals:

[Barrett808]

105. Rove appearance at AEI on Monday canceled?

Karl Rove was scheduled to appear at an American Enterprise Institute event on Monday. The AEI has dropped the event from their calendar.

Comment by Kevin C. — 5/13/2006 @ 5:47 pm

http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1335

[sofa king]

113. Looks like AP has a finger in it now and there's a twist!

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/ats-ap_top13may14,0,7357581.story?coll=sns-newsnation-headlines

Cheney the Focus of CIA Leak Court Filing



By PETE YOST
Associated Press Writer
Posted May 14 2006, 3:05 AM EDT

WASHINGTON -- In a new court filing, the prosecutor in the CIA leak case revealed that Vice President Dick Cheney made handwritten references to CIA officer Valerie Plame -- albeit not by name -- before her identity was publicly exposed.

The new court filing is the second in little more than a month by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald mentioning Cheney as being closely focused with his then-chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, on Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson, who is married to Plame.

With the two court filings, Fitzgerald has pointed to an important role for the vice president in the weeks leading up to the leaking of Plame's identity.

In the latest court filing late Friday, Fitzgerald said he intends to introduce at Libby's trial in January a copy of Wilson's op-ed article in The New York Times "bearing handwritten notations by the vice president." The article was published on July 6, 2003, eight days before Plame's identity was exposed by conservative columnist Bob Novak.

___________________________


How sweet it is.

[gatlingforme]

118. Maybe Cheney will go down with the other Republican shitheads

[wordpix2]

122. I believe he'll be resigning fairly soon. Just a hunch

[NVMojo]

116. Good FECKING Morning!!!! Honest people still serve the public!

I just about choked on my breakfast when I read this! How did I miss this? Haven't had my TV on for a few days! Holy poop, Batman!!!

Hallelujah!

This asshat Rove is related to some very nice people in my town. I am going to have to make sure I give them a hug this week. Their son married his sister. Also a very nice young woman. Too bad slime oozes in some families.

GOOD JOB FITZ!!!

[opihimoimoi]

117. Last night CNN mentioned the ROVE thingy and imminent INDICTMENT

Out of all them media guys...Only CNN.....I wonder why??

[wordpix2]

124. aparently their ratings are going DOWN---maybe they've decided to

develop some sources, do some research and get some news.

[Barrett808]

125. The "Cheney notes" story is all over the place:

Search term: "rove indictment"
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&complete=1&q=rove+indictment&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d

Cheney notes new twist to CIA leak probe
Minneapolis Star Tribune (subscription), MN - 13 minutes ago
... was leaked to the media by both Libby and by presidential adviser Karl Rove. ... a news conference last October, on the day he obtained an indictment against Libby ...
The Good Ship Fitzgerald Is Listing
American Thinker, AZ - 27 minutes ago
... Remember that, according to the indictment, Cooper said only that Libby, when asked about ... of the report from persons who are ostensibly Libby and Rove, no real ...
Cheney Notes Add Twist to CIA Leak Probe
The Southern, IL - 27 minutes ago
... was leaked to the media by both Libby and by presidential adviser Karl Rove. ... a news conference last October, on the day he obtained an indictment against Libby ...
Cheney Notes Add Twist to CIA Leak Probe
Munster Times, IN - 32 minutes ago
... was leaked to the media by both Libby and by presidential adviser Karl Rove. ... a news conference last October, on the day he obtained an indictment against Libby ...
Cheney Notes Add Twist to CIA Leak Probe
CBS News - 38 minutes ago
... was leaked to the media by both Libby and by presidential adviser Karl Rove. ... a news conference last October, on the day he obtained an indictment against Libby ...
Cheney's notes raise questions about CIA leak
Houston Chronicle, United States - 38 minutes ago
... was leaked to the media by both Libby and by presidential adviser Karl Rove. ... a news conference last October, on the day he obtained an indictment against Libby ...
Cheney Notes Add Twist to CIA Leak Probe
The Columbian, WA - 39 minutes ago
... was leaked to the media by both Libby and by presidential adviser Karl Rove. ... a news conference last October, on the day he obtained an indictment against Libby ...
Cheney notes add twist to CIA leak probe
The State, SC - 43 minutes ago
... was leaked to the media by both Libby and by presidential adviser Karl Rove. ... a news conference last October, on the day he obtained an indictment against Libby ...
Cheney Notes Add Twist to CIA Leak Probe
Santa Maria Times, CA - 44 minutes ago
... was leaked to the media by both Libby and by presidential adviser Karl Rove. ... a news conference last October, on the day he obtained an indictment against Libby ...
Cheney Notes Add Twist to CIA Leak Probe
Journal Gazette and Times-Courier, IL - 46 minutes ago
... was leaked to the media by both Libby and by presidential adviser Karl Rove. ... a news conference last October, on the day he obtained an indictment against Libby ...

[OKNancy]

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[IndianaGreen]

134. Jason Leopold has a spotty history as a journalist

Please google his name.

[rayofreason]

127. Lightning strikes....

...Kennedey's plane - Check. Lots of stories on that.

Rove struck by indictment - Nope. Nothing yet.

If I don't see independent information soon I will have to assume that this is dust from an overactive rumourmill.

[high density]

131. Supposedly Rove has 24 "business hours"

So it may be Tuesday or Wednesday before we hear anything, I guess.

[Qutzupalotl]

136. I think they added the word "business" after posting.

Someone earlier in this thread pasted the original wording...without "business".

And I think you're right, we're looking at about Wednesday evening.


I love the smell of bacon in the morning. It smells like...perjury.

[goforit]

128. Try him for TREASON!!!!........All the way baby!!!

[JHH]

130. Bush's Monday Night Talk

Is * prime time talk on monday a preemptive strike on the Rove Indictment

[mvd]

133. If so, Christmas came 7 1/2 months early!

:party:

I don't think you can read into the lack of media attention. They're still unnecessarily scared after the Rather thing.

[Vinca]

135. Message to Mother Nature:

stop with the northeast rain and clouds. The satellite signal's kaput. If Rovester does the frog march tomorrow I won't get to see it. I'll shrivel up and die if I don't see it live, I know I will.

[noel adamson]

139. Karl Rove Frog March conjurs up strange images;

[BooScout]

140. I refuse to post this link in a new thread (consider the source)

.....but as I was googling this morning.....I saw this. I post it without comment other than I am not out to disprove anything. I merely put it out there for comments. For now, I'll wait to see how the Truthout story takes shape early this week.

(REMINDER>>>consider the source..I post this with a huge grain of salt)

http://www.nysun.com/article/32727

Rove Indictment Report Denied

By Staff Reporter of the Sun
May 15, 2006

spokesman for a top White House aide under scrutiny in a criminal leak probe, Karl Rove, yesterday vigorously denied an Internet report that the political adviser to President Bush was told that he had been indicted on charges of perjury and lying to investigators.

"The story is a complete fabrication," the spokesman for Mr. Rove, Mark Corallo, told The New York Sun. "It is both malicious and disgraceful."

A liberal Web site, Truthout.org, carried a report authored by Jason Leopold, alleging that Mr. Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, was given the indictment during a marathon, 15-hour meeting in Washington Friday with the special prosecutor handling the inquiry, Patrick Fitzgerald. The site also reported that Mr. Rove had advised senior White House officials that he would be indicted

(more)

ETA: I saw the thread cited below in GD expanding on the above after I posted it. It needs to be added here as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1190826

[Tight_rope]

143. I waited "ALL DAY" Friday for the "GREAT NEWS"...I prayed for this!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Way to go Fritz....It's Fritzmous! :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:


GOD IS GOOD...ALL THE TIME!

[DuaneBidoux]

144. Why no mainstream links?

[Freddie Stubbs]

145. CBS News is covering it:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2006/05/15/publiceye/entry1618732.shtml

[arwalden]

146. Is Vaughn Ververs A CBS Blogger, Or Reporter?

:shrug:

[Freddie Stubbs]

149. Online Editor

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/public_eye/preview_bio_full.shtml

[DuaneBidoux]

156. CBS news is not "covering it." The commentator is reporting

on what IS news which is the "buzz" on the Internet stirred up over the Truthout report--in other words the story about Truthout has become the news.

I am increasingly skeptical and believe this should have been long ago removed from LBN forum.

[arwalden]

147. Normally, BuzzFlash Loves To Link To Truthout....

I guess they just haven't seen the Truthout story yet. That explains why they haven't featured it on their site.

[Freddie Stubbs]

150. Or perhaps they are concerned about the story's credibility

[arwalden]

151. You Read My Mind.

:thumbsup:

[snooper2]

148. So, this was posted on Saturday..and still no confirmation..

........waiting....

[arwalden]

152. It Reminds Me Of Sylvia Browne Predicting An Earthquake In Turkey...

... eventually there WILL be a devastating earthquake in Turkey, and Sylvia will claim that it validates her powers of predicting the future.

Some things are just TOO OBVIOUS.

[arwalden]

154. It's Tuesday... Anything Yet?

[Love Bug]

155. Are you kidding? Once the indictment is announced, DU will

quickly rise to Level 10 -- we'll all be using morse code to post messages!

[Freddie Stubbs]

157. Less than 8 business hours to go!

Unless those are metric hours. :shrug:

[IndianaGreen]

158. Perhaps Jason Leopold used Pluto hours...

I'll say he was Ratherized.

[BlueInPhilly]

159. I'd echo that

Not really beyond KR to "leak his own indictment" then come up smelling like roses when it doesn't happen and blame the wild imagination of the liberal media for the accusations.

[TheDonkey]

160. um' is this true? I haven't heard anything like this

[pitohui]

162. it proved to be a hoax

i wish the mods would consider locking, this mistruth doesn't need to be endlessly revived

check the date on the story, it was published saturday, today is wednesday

rumors of rove's indictment were greatly exaggerated, i'm afraid

[complain jane]

163. Not so fast with your hoax allegations,

updates have been posted in other threads, the show ain't over yet.

Patience.

[genieroze]

166. Here's another update

THE NEWS

May 17, 2006 -- LATE EDITION -- WMR can report tonight on more details concerning the confusing reports regarding Karl Rove and Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald from last Friday. WMR can confirm that the appearance of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales before the Grand Jury at the US Federal Courthouse in Washington was a formality in which the jury informed the Attorney General of their decision to indict Karl Rove. That proceeding lasted for less than 30 minutes and took place shortly after noon. Gonzales's personal security detachment was present in the courthouse during the Grand Jury briefing. From the courthouse, Gonzales's motorcade proceeded directly down Constitution Avenue to the Department of Justice.

According to sources within the Patton and Boggs law firm, Karl Rove was present at the law firm's building on M Street. WMR was told by a credible source that a Patton and Boggs attorney confirmed that Fitzgerald paid a visit to the law firm to inform Rove attorney Robert Luskin and Rove that an indictment would be returned by the Grand Jury against Rove. Contrary to other reports, some of which may have emanated from the Rove camp in order to create diversions and smokescreens, the meetings at Patton and Boggs did not last 15 hours nor was a 24-hour notice of intent to indict delivered to Rove. In the Scooter Libby case last October, after the Grand Jury decided to indict Libby on Friday, October 21 and the Attorney General personally heard the decision the same day at a meeting with the jury, the actual indictment was issued the following Friday, October 28. Several sources have told WMR that an announcement concerning the indictment of Rove will be made on Friday, May 19 generally following the same scenario from October 28, 2005 -- the posting of the indictment on the Special Prosecutor's web site followed by a press conference at Main Justice.

WMR was also told by a credible source that part of the reason for Fitzgerald's visit to Patton and Boggs was to inform Rove attorney Luskin that he has moved into the category of a "subject" of the special prosecutor's investigation as a result of a conversation with Time reporter Viveca Novak, in which Novak told Luskin that Rove was a source for Time's Matt Cooper. The special prosecutor, who has prosecuted one defense attorney in the Hollinger case, is reportedly investigating whether Luskin, as an officer of the court, may have violated laws on obstruction of justice.

WMR has also discovered that last year Rove, realizing he remained a lightning rod in the CIA Leakgate scandal, made preliminary plans to move into the private sector from the White House to take political heat off the Bush administration. However, as it became clear that he was in over his head legally and his legal bills piled up, Rove decided to remain at the White House.

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

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[truthisfreedom]

165. well isn't that just excellent. 8^)

i love it.

[Peter Frank]

168. The mod deleted the message before I could thoroughly explore it but...

...the mod was right.

What I found was that the source is unreliable (although the claims are not necessarily untrue).

Pleae everyone -- Don't be Dan Rathered!!!

[Freddie Stubbs]

169. Haven't the '24 business hours' expired yet?

:shrug:

[LiberteToujours]

170. Can someone lock this or change the topic title?

I got all excited when I read this, at the least the topic title could be changed to be prefaced with "RUMOUR: ".

[snooper2]

171. negative...

thread must live forever...

[mtnsnake]

172. No kidding

It's getting to be like the little boy who cried wolf syndrome around here. Makes you think twice anymore about taking stock into what thread titles say.

[Moderator]

173. Lock

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