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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 06:51 AM
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War talk is focus for Bush in Texas
http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/auto/epaper/editions/today/metro_state_f381ce5ec52540ef00c6.html

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And throughout his speech, he used oft-repeated lines from his 2000 campaign, including passages about compassionate conservatism and personal responsibility.

The latter message -- "We're changing the culture of America from one that said, if it feels good, do it, and if you've got a problem, blame somebody else" -- has been updated to reflect a problem that plagued the national economy during his tenure in office.

"If you're a CEO in America," Bush said, "you're responsible to tell the truth to your employees and your stockholders."

...more...

:wtf:
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 06:53 AM
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1. puke
:puke: filled lies
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 07:01 AM
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2. "If you've got a problem, blame somebody else"
If that isn't the fucking George Wimp Bush philosophy stated as succinctly as possible, I don't know what is.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 07:02 AM
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3. Um
He challenged Americans to exercise at least 30 minutes a day and to eat their fruits and vegetables.

"It's a health-care plan that says if you exercise and eat healthy food, you will live longer," said Bush, an avid runner who is recovering from a minor knee injury.

If this is his health care plan for America I shudder for our future.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 07:11 AM
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4. You would think
this would be the last thing he wanted to talk about. Even his lapdog media can't lie about dead young people.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 07:21 AM
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5. Look!
Now no one can say that the U.S. doesn't have a national health-care plan. Thank you, Georgie!
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 07:30 AM
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7. It's going to be the excuse for not having Medicare.
Your sick? You have a desease? Well don't expect help from us. You should have exercised more and eaten your fruits and vegetables. This is you fault now deal with it.

If this regeme isn't changed there will be nothing left of domestic spending. All of it will go to war war war war war.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 07:27 AM
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6. What a lying disgusting sack of shit he is!
I think those who give him money understand he is lying but they don't give a damn because he gives them tax breaks and gives their companies war contracts.

Bush is as much a man of the people as Charlie Manson was. I hope to hell the people wake up and kick this bastards ass!
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 07:30 AM
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8. This is the kind of rhetoric that a Dem candidate must defeat:
Edited on Sat Jul-19-03 07:32 AM by BillyBunter
"Terrorists declared war on the United States of America, and war is what they got," he said. "We have captured or killed many leaders of al Qaeda, and the rest of them know we are on their trail.

"In Afghanistan, in Iraq, we gave ultimatums to terror regimes. Those regimes chose defiance, and those regimes are no more," he said. "Fifty million people in those two countries once lived under tyranny, and now they live under freedom."

His comments on the war on terrorism drew enthusiastic applause from a crowd of about 900 in a Wyndham Anatole Hotel ballroom.




That's his whole campaign. He has to cede the economy, and Dems always win the rest of the soft issues.

Now, I know that to a thinking person these claims are nonsense, and worse, dishonest. But we are dealing with an electorate here where 60-odd percent of the people do not know any of the Dem candidates for president, including Lieberman (last election's VP candidate), and where a majority of the population allowed themselves to be talked into a complete bullshit war. America is a country where rhetoric like that will work -- unless it's met with a strong campaign, and a strong campaigner. People are less interested in the reality of Iraq and Afghanistan (most Americans have to be reminded we had a war there, by the way) than they are with the feel-good imagery.

Bush can and should be beaten, maybe even easily beaten, but any candidate going up against him should know what they will be running in to, and have a workable plan to deal with it. That rules out several of the prominent contenders at this point IMO; although I'm not going to mudsling. I do hope that people look at that message and start figuring out what it's going to take to beat it. Hoping for an impeachment, or counting on the guerilla war in Iraq are passive strategies, whereas we are in a situation where a strong, active candidate can beat this punk. Besides, the smart play at this point for Bush would be to claim victory and drop Iraq in the UN's lap, which would make the war a complete positive for him. I think he's too stubborn, stupid, and arrogant to do that, but it's always a possibility. Either way, the war is a strength for his election campaign and most likely will stay that way, and people should be aware of it.

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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 10:00 AM
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11. "and now they live under freedom"
This just happened to come into my inbox this morning from RAWA (Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan). I attended a conference on the plight of Afghan women here in Santa Barbara two months ago where Tahmeena Faryal was the keynote speaker. She was educated by RAWA and is now a refugee in Pakistan, but is on a speaking tour to gain support for RAWA's efforts. This is from her speech in Adelaide, Australia last week.


http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2003/s900126.htm

The World Today - Activist pleads for more help in Afghanistan

Our reporter Nance Haxton spoke to Ms Faryal in Adelaide.


NANCE HAXTON: Does that reflect the lack of stability still in Afghanistan? (referring to women still feeling the need to wear the burka)

TAHMEENA FARYAL: Absolutely. Yes, yes. The security situation is quite bad, especially in the parts, in most of the parts of the country that we do not have the UN peacekeepers. In Kabul, probably is the best because of the presence of the ISAF (International Security Assistance Force) forces, and even with that there have been explosions and assassinations, assassination threats, abductions, rape.

NANCE HAXTON: So, unfortunately the situation really hasn't improved since the days of the Taliban?

TAHMEENA FARYAL: Not much in any radical sense.

>>snip<<

NANCE HAXTON: Do you think Afghanistan has fallen off the global radar to a degree? Have people forgotten this country since that blaze of publicity when the war was in full swing?

TAHMEENA FARYAL: Absolutely, and that's one of the fears of our people – that Afghanistan has become a forgotten story once again and worse, and it's thought as a liberated country now things are fixed there and, you know, it probably doesn't need attention and support of international community as much as it really does and people…

The other worse thing is that a lot was promised, a lot was promised by the United States and allied countries. A lot was promised by the Government of Afghanistan, which of course, is based on the support of the United States. Nothing was done.

People do not see any reconstruction happening. If there are some it's basically some buildings, houses of the commanders, of the jihadi, I mean, fundamentalist leaders, or some NGOs, ah, not for the ordinary people.


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TrueBlueDem Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 07:39 AM
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9. Excuse me, but what's Chimpy doing at Crawford... in JULY?
Resting up before taking his MONTH-LONG Crawford vaction in in August??? :mad:

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 09:15 AM
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10. He *IS* gonna take a month-long vacation ISN'T HE
WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT. UNF***ING BELIEVABLE. I JUST . . . . .:puke:
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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 10:03 AM
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12. The press coverage at the ranch isn't as intense.
They can try to come with another story to market to the American people as an excuse for the war. Imagine!!! They are ignoring a true threat, N. Korea, but have destroyed two countries in the mid-east who were weak militarily for oil and strategic positioning. classic bully technique.
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