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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:40 PM
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Prosecutors Opt for Wide Probe of Rep. Ney
Federal prosecutors signaled this week that they have decided to pursue a wide range of allegations about dealings between Rep. Robert W. Ney (R-Ohio) and lobbyist Jack Abramoff, rather than bringing a narrowly focused bribery case against the congressman.

Ney faces a primary challenge in his eastern Ohio district Tuesday, as his ties to Abramoff have become national news. It is the first time since his 1994 election to Congress that Ney has had to compete for his party's nomination. Ney has been under investigation by federal authorities in Florida and the District for actions that helped Abramoff and two partners buy a Fort Lauderdale-based casino cruise line. The deal that Ney promoted in the Congressional Record hinged on the Abramoff group's creation of a counterfeit $23 million wire transfer.

The Miami U.S. Attorney's office has vied with the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section over who would have primary jurisdiction in the Ney investigation. Last month, the Justice Department decided that any case would be brought in the District. Under the statute of limitations, Thursday was the deadline for bringing bribery charges against Ney focused solely on his actions related to the Florida casino boat transaction. Ney's lawyer, Mark Tuohey, said he has been in talks with Justice Department officials and expects to know within a month or two whether Ney will face criminal charges.

He said the department asked for another extension of the statute of limitations in recent days, but this time Ney declined. "We're going through the facts with the government. I don't think there's a crime here," Tuohey said. "Nothing's decided." Court papers filed in recent months show that prosecutors have lined up at least four cooperating witnesses against the Ohio congressman: Abramoff, former congressional aides Michael Scanlon and Tony C. Rudy and businessman Adam Kidan. All have pleaded guilty to various conspiracy, fraud or public corruption charges.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/28/AR2006042801879.html
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:42 PM
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1. I smell toast. n/t
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 09:17 PM
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6. burned toast
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 09:21 PM
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7. Aye.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:45 PM
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2. prosecutions spreading like wildfire....
please.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:51 PM
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3. In the short-term for the upcoming primary, does anyone know if
Ney is running ahead or behind or what?
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:04 PM
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16. Looks like the GOP voters will return Ney in a landslide..God help them.
What Ney has done is to open up the spigots of the House Finance Committee...promising highway projects and special interest pork all over the district.
The Fall campaign will be another matter entirely, however. Two strong Dems are vying for the right to challenge him in November.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:57 PM
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17. farmbo, thank you for that update. It sounds very interesting.
"I pity the fools" who vote for someone like Ney, who is up to his neck in scandal.

And I hope one of those two Democrats whups some fanny come November.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:52 PM
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4. assume the postion Bob.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:55 PM
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5. SWEET!
I have a personal vendetta for that bastard since he kept Holt's HR2239 locked up in committee for as long as the bill has existed. That f**ker has earned ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING that comes his way as a result of this investigation.

I'd like a framed copy of the bastard in a striped prison suit.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 10:30 PM
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8. delf-selete
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 10:31 PM by Toucano
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:30 AM
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9. Lot of foot shooting going on in the GOP
Perhaps they really *should* consider gun-control laws (to protect themselves :rofl: )

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:03 AM
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10. There is a Statute of Limitations to Accepting Bribes?
I did not know that... I thought it was almost as serious as murder which has no statute of limitatins...
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:48 PM
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11. Prosecutors Opt for Wide Probe of Rep. Ney
Prosecutors Opt for Wide Probe of Rep. Ney

By Susan Schmidt and Chris Cillizza
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, April 29, 2006; Page A04

Federal prosecutors signaled this week that they have decided to pursue a wide range of allegations about dealings between Rep. Robert W. Ney (R-Ohio) and lobbyist Jack Abramoff, rather than bringing a narrowly focused bribery case against the congressman.

Ney faces a primary challenge in his eastern Ohio district Tuesday, as his ties to Abramoff have become national news. It is the first time since his 1994 election to Congress that Ney has had to compete for his party's nomination.

Abramoff, the once-powerful lobbyist at the center of a wide-ranging public corruption investigation, was sentenced to five years and 10 months in prison on March 29, after pleading guilty to fraud, tax evasion and conspiracy to bribe public officials in a deal that required him to provide evidence about members of Congress.

Ney has been under investigation by federal authorities in Florida and the District for actions that helped Abramoff and two partners buy a Fort Lauderdale-based casino cruise line. The deal that Ney promoted in the Congressional Record hinged on the Abramoff group's creation of a counterfeit $23 million wire transfer.

more...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/28/AR2006042801879.html?sub=AR


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:48 PM
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12. It's about time! Go after these jackals! nt
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:48 PM
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13. Dukegate is widening and now we're gonna blow Neygate wide opened!
:)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:48 PM
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14. And while these crooked Abramoff deals were passing over his desk, so was
the "Hack America's Vote Act"--a $4 billion electronic voting boondoggle for Bushite corporations, pushed through the Anthrax Congress by its two biggest crooks--Tom Delay and Bob Ney--by which they corrupted and destroyed America's voting system, and kept the Bush junta in power.

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SOME RESOURCES FOR AMERICAN REVOLUTION II:

Hopeful signs - latest news:

California voters sue the state over Diebold:
www.VoterAction.org is suing the state of California and 18 Calif county registrars on behalf of 25 California voter/plaintiffs, on the illegal Diebold "certification" by Schwarzenegger appointee Bruce McPherson.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2180496
Seven of these counties just promised the judge they would use PAPER BALLOTS, and were dismissed from this lawsuit (4/27/06).
http://kcbs.com/pages/29285.php
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2249205

Maryland rejects Diebold:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x418263

Florida - anti-trust accusations against Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia, re: heroic Florida election official Ion Sancho:
(FLA AG subpoenas the companies)
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/legalissues/story/0,10801,110192,00.html
http://www.tbo.com/news/politics/MGBKSY8W8LE.html
(info & discussion)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2183630

Utah county clerk fights back!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x419226

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More resources for American Revolution II:

www.votersunite.org (MythBreakers - easy primer on electronic voting--one of the myths is that HAVA requires electronic voting; it does not.)
www.UScountvotes.org (statistical monitoring of '06 and '08 elections--they need donations)


(Activist sites with links to state activist groups or info)
www.votetrustusa.org (news of this great movement from around the country)
www.votersunited.org (good general info, and state links)
www.verifiedvoting.org (great activist site)
www.solarbus.org/election/index.shtml (fab compendium of all election info)

www.freepress.org (devoted to election reform)
www.bradblog.com (also great, and devoted to election reform)
www.TruthIsAll.net (analysis of the 2004 election)* :patriot: :applause: :patriot:
www.votepa.us (well-organized local group of citizen activists in Pennsylvania, where important legal issues are at stake, including state's rights over election systems)
Provisions of the PA lawsuit:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x423739

The Voter Confidence Resolution
http://tinyurl.com/rlnr2 (“We Do Not Consent”)
http://guvwurld.blogspot.com (GuvWurld blog main page)
http://tinyurl.com/amryg (Voter Confidence Resolution

www.debrabowen.com (Calif Senator running for Sec of State to reform election system)
www.johnbonifaz.com (running for Massachusetts Sec of State on strong election reform and antiwar platform)

*Some tributes to TruthIsAll, who is very ill:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417007
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417231
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x675477

Congressional bills:

Russ Holt's HR 550 requires a real paper ballot, bans secret software in "voting machines", and has more than 170 co-sponsors, but the audit required is too weak, it promotes electronic voting and centralized power, and the secret software might be permitted to continue in the central tabulators (the bill is not clear). To sign the HR 550 petition: http://www.rushholt.com/petition.html
At lot of discussion at DU of the loopholes/pitfalls in HR 550:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x422926
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x421136
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=422967&mesg_id=422967
(Note: Senate Bill-SB 330 and House-HR704 simply require a "voter verified paper audit trail" (VVPAT), which may be best for the moment.)


Also of interest:

Michael Collins (Autorank)'s searing election reform article for New Zealand's Scoop.com
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x971363

Bob Koehler (-- four recent election reform initiatives in Ohio, predicted to win by 60/40 votes, flipped over, on election day, into 60/40 LOSSES!--the biggest flipover we've seen yet; the election theft machines and their masters are now dictating election policy! Title: "Poll Shock" 11/24/05)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col321.htm

Bob Koehler's latest: "Trust us: Take this box and stuff it" (3/16/06)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col337.htm
More Koehler:
www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?file=20051124ctnbk-a.txt&catid=1824&code=ctnbk

Amaryllis (Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia lavish lobbying of election officials - Beverly Hilton, Aug. '05)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380340

HOWARD DEAN remarks on electronic voting machines 04/06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x994507

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Throw Diebold, ES&S and ALL election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

:think: :patriot: :woohoo: :patriot: :think:

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"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it." --Thomas Jefferson, The Declaration of Independence
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:48 PM
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15. great work, Peace Patriot
Let's hope the American people wake up to the machinations of Diebold etc. Have any TV networks touched these stories?
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