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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:32 PM
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Sheriff seeks boycott aimed at illegals (Ohio)
(Just under the wire for LBN -- GoogleNews has this listed as posted 11 hours ago.)

Sheriff Richard Jones of Butler County, OH warns lawbreaking businesses: “You know who you are, and we’re coming.”


HAMILTON — Butler County Sheriff Richard K. Jones plans to ask for a boycott on county businesses that hire illegal aliens, it was reported late Thursday night.

In addition, Jones said the Immigration and Naturalization Service has agreed to help share the cost of housing illegal immigrants in the county jail, according to Local 12 WKRC.

Jones said he plans to ask county residents to ask businesses “are you in the practice of hiring illegal immigrants? And if they are, don’t do business with them,” Jones told Local 12 Thursday night.

Jones also said businesses in the county that hire illegal aliens should expect the type of raids that were executed at a business in Evendale earlier this week, Local 12 reported. Immigration and Customs officials arrested 33 people Wednesday at IFCO Systems on Evendale Drive.



More of this story @ http://www.journal-news.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/04/20/HJN042106JONESIMM_s.html
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:35 PM
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1. Oh sure, business owners are going to admit to this.
This sounds real effective. Come out, Come out! Wherever you are!
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:40 PM
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2. exactly.....why yes, as a matter of fact, I do
hire undocumented workers. Why do you ask?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:42 PM
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3. They'd do better profiling drivers doing 30mph in a 45mph zone
:crazy:
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:16 PM
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7. I think that the point of encouraging citizens to ask the question...
... is to diminish the employers' sense of freedom from scrutiny and immunity from punishment -- thereby increasing the employers' inhibitions against breaking the law.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:45 PM
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4. Why isn't the Sheriff enforcing the laws against people that hire illegals
For him to say:

Sheriff Richard Jones of Butler County, OH warns lawbreaking businesses: “You know who you are, and we’re coming.”


and then not go arrest the people that he "knows" are breaking the law sounds like Dereliction of Duty, doesn't it?
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:10 PM
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6. well
the strategy, i think, is more of a scare tactic. You don't want to actually bring down all the businesses that hire illegal immigrants. In poorer counties, that could destroy a lot of the economy. Instead, arrest SOME law breakers, and thus encourage the others to not risk it, and stop employing illegals.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:43 PM
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11. don't Fed. agents have to do that?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 04:24 PM
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18. Would depend on what state laws are on the books - but no reason
the Sheriff couldn't bring the Feds in if he knows who is breaking the law. Just like he would if he "knew" someone were counterfeiting US currency in the basement of a house in his jurisdiction.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:07 PM
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5. well, you know
if you're going to try to fight illegal immigration, i admit that this is, in general, the way to do it. Go after the businesses, stop them from doing the hiring.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:29 PM
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9. going after the bigshots pays off -- they're the weak link in the chain
Trying to round up all the illegals is like bailing the ocean with a teacup; even the mightiest effort produces few permanent results.

Much better to go after the bosses. There are fewer of them, they're less mobile, they're probably fairly "soft" individuals who could be intimidated by the threat of prison, and they have plenty of seizable assets. Previously, they've hired illegals because they've had no reason to believe that they were taking much of a personal risk in doing so. Change the perception, and you can change their behavior.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:58 PM
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15. precisely
rather than make asinine calls to wall up the border, make coming here to work less attractive for illegals :shrug:
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:19 PM
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8. Ha, some folks are biting off more they can chew. Do people have
any idea the costs involved in arresting, ticketing, housing,deporting these illegals? Much better to give tickets out to folks who have money to pay them.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:33 PM
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10. Most of the "illegals" busted in Houston have been let go....
In Houston the raids resulted in 67 arrests. All but 14 of those apprehended had been assigned court dates and released by Wednesday evening.

Nelson Chavarria, who had his papers in order and was one of only five workers left after the Homeland Security buses pulled away on Wednesday, said he had more work than usual a day later.

"I'll be frank. Here, everyone knows that the majority of people working for the company are undocumented," said Chavarria, who earns about $10 an hour, plus overtime, after 15 years with the company.


www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/immigration/3809000.html




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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:51 PM
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13. you might be missing the point
he's trying to deter businesses from hiring illegals

it sounds like a lot of bluster, but it *is probably enough to start reducing the number of local businesses willing to employ illegal immigrants.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:54 PM
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14. Ahh, I stand accused of sloppy reading. But others who want to
go after illegals do not have a clue as to the enormity of the task.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:04 PM
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16. true, they usually don't
but in this case employers are the targets.

...or at least he's stomping his feet and saying they are.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:11 PM
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17. I have, in the past hired guys that were probably illegals. I paid them
fairly, 8 bucks an hour, bought them lunch and treated them with respect. They were happy. I was happy with the yardwork. The sad thing about all this current hoopla is all the extra stress and grief it puts upon regular folks who just want to work and provide for themselves and their families.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 07:07 PM
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19. I had a new roof put on a couple of months back
and It was done buy a english speaking american (anglo). Was the lowest price out of 4-bids and a job well done with attention to detail. it took 2 guys to do my house in three days and the majority of the jobs I see there is always 4-5 on the house and it still takes them over a week.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:44 PM
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12. so how ordinary people would identify "illegals"?
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