MSNBC’s Shuster: Signs Point To Rove Indictment

[Stevendsmith]

Last night, MSNBC’s David Shuster took a look at recent court filings by special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and suggests that Karl Rove is likely to be indicted.

Three key points made by Shuster:

1. The latest court documents, for the first time, name Rove as a subject of the investigation.

2. The court documents go out of their way to say that Rove will not be called as a witness in Scooter Libby’s trial, even though Rove is a key part of the narrative. Shuster notes that this is done when prosecutors want to “leave open the possibility of later charging that particular subject in a separate case.”

3. Rove is referred in court documents as “Official A.” Shuster says “in every single case we have found, Keith, that prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald when he designates somebody as Official A in an indictment, that person eventually does get indicted themselves.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/21/msnbcs-shuster-signs-point-to-rove-indictment/

[YDogg]

1. I love me some David Shuster.

[Greeby]

2. Snacks anyone?

:popcorn:

[Tight_rope]

5. Gimme that damn POPCORN...shits getting good!

[UpInArms]

9. scoot over, I'm bringing the cart in

:popcorn:

[wryter2000]

20. Okay

I'm pouring the :beer: :toast:

[WhiteTara]

21. I get to open the champagne I bought

when Scooter was indicted. It's in the fridge just waiting for the right moment!
:party:

[peacetalksforall]

71. Just don't mix popcorn with champagne! nt

[Benhurst]

8. Move over. This is going to be fun.

:popcorn:

[calimary]

64. I'll bring some M&Ms. And maybe some falafel!

:party:

Keep visualizing...

[Judi Lynn]

3. This is something we could live with!

[wakeme2008]

6. Perp walk Perp Walk

:popcorn:

[truthisfreedom]

28. Frog March Frog March!

:thumbsup:

[darkmaestro019]

31. please oh please oh please. nt

[donco6]

30. That is the most amazing Photoshop.

Every time I see it, I stop and admire the work.

Now if we can only see it for real.

[yasmina27]

50. Except he's not FAT enough! n/t

[wordpix]

35. ahahaha, bwahahaha

:rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[IntravenousDemilo]

38. Now where's that one where he's pissed his pants?

Mmmm, Photoshop...

[307 MMS]

39. "Frog March", anyone.

Oh, how I do love that picture. Ribbet, ribbet!
Maybe we can change that expensive suit to an orange jumper!!!
What's monkey boy gonna do when his "brain" falls out of his head? Is he ballsy enough, a la Nixon, to fire Fitz? Then pardon Rove? I'm getting ahead of myself. Go Fitz, GO!!!!!!

[robertpaulsen]

63. Here you go!

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

[seemslikeadream]

66. Here robertpaulsen

It's about time, isn't it?

[Heywood J]

61. Now, for

remand without bail in a nice DC metro detention center, where he can spend a few days with drug dealers, carjackers, etc.

[0007]

67. "All good things come to he who waits"

:hi:

[station agent]

4. What it might look like...

[Jack from Charlotte]

10. Something is missing from that picture.....

the wet spot from belt to crotch area. I've seen that picture with the wet spot and it is much funnier.

[troubleinwinter]

12. It is here:

[Harry Monroe]

26. I got so excited thinking about the prospect of Rove being indicted that..

i just wet my pants myself!!!!!!!!!!

[The Wielding Truth]

69. Hi and welcome to Democracy on the Net, NGTI!

:hi:
Rove has been screwing with good people for long enough. Time for him to go think about the things he has done.

[renate]

52. welcome to DU, 307 MMS and station agent!

:hi: Glad you're here to enjoy the :popcorn: with everybody!

[Tempest]

7. Rove's own lawyer predicts Rove's indictment

Luskin admitted Rove was the focus in the investigation and that an indictment was forthcoming.

[leQ]

11. one can only hope (eom)

[NVMojo]

13. YIPPEE!!!

:wow:

[mitchum]

14. I can't wait to see that pig in an orange jumpsuit

[wordpix]

34. He'll then be Pumpkin Rover

[leftofcool]

15. I got the beer

and the chocolate.

Left of Cool

[TankLV]

16. HA HA!

GREAT news!

The house of cards is falling at an ever faster pace now!

[rodeodance]

17. abc says GJ is meeting today--see here (friday)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x987147

[rodeodance]

18. k

[BlueManDude]

19. If Rove gets indicted I'm buying a bottle of Laphroaig 15 yr. single malt

[soothsayer]

23. Ooh, any chance he'll get a 15 yr sentence to go with that?

[BlueManDude]

24. The 10 yr's not bad either.. n/t

[trogdor]

29. In federal PMITA prison?

/office space

[deutsey]

22. Oh, I hope, I hope, I hope, I hope

I might actually believe once again that justice is possible in this universe.

[Blue_Tires]

25. kicked/recommended n/t

[CBHagman]

27. Will time wound all heels?

Frankly, I don't dare to hope for such a comeuppance for someone who obviously so richly deserves it. But still this puts a light back in my eyes.

[DemExpat]

32. Wouldn't it be lovely?

:beer: :toast: :party: :bounce:

DemEx

[wordpix]

33. saw this report on KO last night---go, go, Schuster and Keith, bring 'em

down with the TRUTHOUT

[Imagevision]

36. Rove indicted? - watch Bush start to get real nervous as his decidership

begins crumbling...FAST!! November elections, GOP predicted to lose one or both house & senate and it really does come back at Bush, he's the man, he decided the direction of the administration, notice Condi staying extremely far away and "go Fu*k yourself" has no aspirations to be in charge of the country, NOT fulkl time, physically Cheney can't do it.

Yes, Bush is on his way down,down all the way down but I hope he stays long enough for impeachment, the man started a war under false pretenses and should be the first President sent to Prison for war crimes!

[worldgonekrazy]

43. "Decidership"...thats hilarious

Did you come up with that? First time I've heard it. Really made me laugh.

[wrate]

37. So it's Goodby WH, Hello Club Fed for Karl the Pig Rove? n/t

[mapatriot]

40. Great News!!

Hope Casty and Missy are listening. They've repeatedly said that Kkkarl would "never be indicted". Ha!!!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

41. There will be multiple Freeper head implosions when that happens! :-)

[jazzjunkysue]

55. Channeling "Mars Attacks" when they play the country western music

:popcorn:

But, of course, whatever KKKarl did, it's Clinton's fault.

[truthisfreedom]

42. all Fitz has to do is get karl wrapped up in court proceedings through the

fall. i hope this moves forward at a slightly faster clip. feels like a snail's pace so far!

[caledesi]

44. Now we know the reason that KKIKarl's position has changed to

the backgroud. Can't have a big-fish, very visible WH person indicted, now can we?



edit: typo

[snappyturtle]

60. I couldn't agree with you more!

We all know * never admits to any faults so pushing Karl to the back of the pig pen is remarkable in itself. Most sane people would have "let" KR resign to spend more time with his family but not *! But, like you, I think appearances are important in some twisted way to our beloved pres! :sarcasm: Do you all remember Daddy * fire Karl for leaking info to Novak? Once again, * separates himself from his Daddy's ways.

Another reason I think something is up: Have you noticed the file footage of Libby that's shown over & over & over of him walking outside with his attorneys and he has that "cat that ate the canary look"? I betcha he's signaling he's not going down alone! :woohoo:

[Nothing Without Hope]

45. I recommend reading ***Firedoglake's Jane Hamsher's comments*** on this:

She thinks Shuster may be misinterpreting some of the "signs that Rove will be indicted" that he cites and advocates caution in predicting if/when it will happen:

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/21/just-the-facts-maam
Friday, April 21st, 2006 at 1:35 am

Just the Facts, Ma’am

By Jane Hamsher

Anyone who follows the Plame matter closely is accustomed to picking up an article or tuning into a news story and watching them get details of the story just plain wrong. We do it too; it’s a complicated story and it’s hard to follow all the details. But as someone who’s witnessed people getting really excited about rumors that never turn out to be true, I would like to take a moment to interject a bit of objectivity about the current expectations regarding Karl Rove floating around out there. Scandal fatigue can be exhausting.

David Shuster is a great example to use because he is a very, very good reporter and his stuff is top-notch; it only goes down from there (and it does in fact go way down). And Shuster may have many good sources who are telling him that Rove’s indictment is imminent, but if he is basing this assumption on the reasons he lists, I’m not sure I draw the same conclusion.

(snip - Jane evaluates various Shuster statements - very interesting)

I would bet a whole lot of money that Fitzgerald will eventually indict Rove. But this may be a long game, one that plays out over years and that frustrates a lot of people who want justice NOW. Those frustrations are only exacerbated by people who try to feed public hunger for this case by printing dubiously sourced stories that consistently get the facts wrong. We don’t leap every time someone yells "boo" about this story, nor should you.

[wordpix]

51. however, when Schuster says something, I listen. He's a great reporter

and he's not a chickenhawk. He was reporting from Iraq quite awhile and did a hell of a job.

[Nothing Without Hope]

56. Yes, Jane obviously has the highest opinion of him and his reporting.

She's just suggesting that based on what he reported, there may be some alternative explanations, and since she doesn't have access to the entirety of the evidence on which he bases his expectations, she's going to reserve judgement for now, at least on the TIMING of Rove's indictment. I think she's a bit uneasy about the "Rove is going down now!" sort of posts going around the internet; she thinks we may need more patience for the case to be worked through over time.

[Hekate]

59. Fitz is known for his slow pace. Slow, but oh sooooooo thorough.

So his pace may be frustrating, but hang on to your hopes my friends: when Fitz finally ties the bow on his gift to justice, it won't come unraveled.

Hekate

[brentspeak]

46. Not LBN

This is more like an editorial or something.

[sofa king]

47. Was that headline written with a Magic Eight Ball?

"Signs Point to Yes."

[stepnw1f]

48. That Fat Pasty Prick Should Have His..

citizenship taken away from him permanently for TREASON.

[savemefromdumbya]

49. as they say 'there's no smoke without fire"

[nevergiveup]

53. The question is

Will Karl squeal on the big boys if he is indicted?

[rambler_american]

54. Fat Frog March

&p=fat+frog&type=jpeg&no=1&tt=1,995&ei=UTF-8


:dem:

[eppur_se_muova]

57. OMG! Half frog, half tomato! NT, only picture

[lovuian]

58. WOOHOOO

:woohoo:

[aden_nak]

62. So do Moxie and Spunk come out to play in exchange for a good article?

[Lilith Velkor]

65. Signs point to my butt, out of which monkeys might fly

I fucking hate it when specualtion is treated as news.

Ah well. Wake me if something actually happens, willya? :boring:

[Pastiche423]

68. Nope

Wake your own self up.

[Lilith Velkor]

70. Good morning to you, too, dear.

[Independent_Liberal]

72. Perp Walk Fest 2006!

I'm ready for it!

:)