RamboLiberal
(1000+ posts)
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Wed Apr-19-06 06:19 PM
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http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/8821721/detail... Two workers looking for tools set off a security situation at a Beaver County nuclear power plant that drew a response from police and federal investigators, WTAE Channel 4's Paul Van Osdol reported. State police said the men drove up to the Beaver Valley Power Station in a tractor-trailer on Tuesday night to pick up two large containers of tools for a contractor for whom they worked. Security guards stopped the men for a routine inspection, but they drove away, police said. The guards became suspicious and called police, who pulled the truck over about a mile from the plant. A state trooper got a warrant to search the vehicle and found a duffel bag, which he said contained $504,230 in mostly small bills.
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I was gonna post it. The men are from Houston btw. |
elehhhhna |
Apr-19-06 06:20 PM |
#1 |
 
Houston eh? Imagine that...n/t |
BeHereNow |
Apr-19-06 07:53 PM |
#17 |
  
Houston?...I live in Houston...I bet they are shady characters. |
Tight_rope |
Apr-20-06 06:54 PM |
#169 |
   
GHWB....arranging dirty business once again. |
goforit |
Apr-30-06 03:16 PM |
#269 |
  
I 'm trying to imagine it. |
midnight |
May-02-06 10:42 AM |
#285 |
 
Beaver Valley had just replaced its fuel rods. |
Kailassa |
May-03-06 06:31 AM |
#290 |
 
Bechtel also has ties to Diebold |
patriothackd |
May-08-06 12:32 PM |
#293 |
 
The men were released? WTF? Picking up tools in the middle of the night |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 03:48 PM |
#139 |
  
maybe they were going to pickup a couple pounds of coke |
ktlyon |
Apr-22-06 04:21 PM |
#219 |
   
or maybe... |
area51 |
Apr-23-06 12:08 AM |
#229 |
  
yes that could be true, I thought of that after I posted |
ktlyon |
Apr-23-06 10:24 AM |
#235 |
  
self-delete |
Boojatta |
Apr-28-06 08:22 PM |
#260 |
 
K&R! |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:01 PM |
#142 |
 
Maybe just trying to pay last months power bill? (nt) |
Jack from Charlotte |
Apr-20-06 07:32 PM |
#171 |

My husband worked there (Shippingport) in the 70's |
livetohike |
Apr-19-06 06:23 PM |
#2 |

pretty cryptic.... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-19-06 06:25 PM |
#3 |
 
Probably nothing....... |
Skink |
Apr-19-06 06:35 PM |
#4 |

nice chunk of change....strange place to pick up tools... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-19-06 06:39 PM |
#5 |
 
Odd |
AuntiBush |
Apr-19-06 11:55 PM |
#44 |

Half a million bucks is a strange definition of 'nothing.' n/t |
kgfnally |
Apr-19-06 09:49 PM |
#29 |
 
Pay off for someone at the plant, IMHO. |
sarcasmo |
Apr-20-06 03:42 PM |
#138 |

lol. |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Apr-20-06 07:29 PM |
#170 |

Half a million must be the going price for stolen nuc material?? nt |
cassiepriam |
Apr-19-06 06:43 PM |
#6 |
 
Good Catch!.. |
Peter Frank |
Apr-20-06 03:30 AM |
#74 |

They were going for the uranium, or whatever they need to make a bomb. |
cassiepriam |
Apr-20-06 06:29 AM |
#94 |

If they were stealing uranium, it would be quite obvious |
MadHound |
Apr-20-06 12:57 PM |
#124 |
 
The men were driving a tractor-trailer, |
Kailassa |
Apr-20-06 03:20 PM |
#137 |
 
They were just dropping the money off, pick up came later? |
cassiepriam |
Apr-20-06 04:19 PM |
#145 |

yes-seems pretty obvious |
katty |
Apr-25-06 02:47 PM |
#243 |

I hope authorities inspected the |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-19-06 06:43 PM |
#7 |

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Apr-19-06 06:44 PM |
#8 |
 
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Apr-19-06 07:51 PM |
#16 |
 
Thinking the same thing...I guess they were working on the 2006 MIHOP |
NoodleyAppendage |
Apr-19-06 07:56 PM |
#18 |
  
Isn't it pathetic that we think such things? |
BeHereNow |
Apr-19-06 08:01 PM |
#20 |
   
agreed, especially the latter ^_^ (n/t) |
fushuugi |
Apr-20-06 03:01 AM |
#72 |
  
unfotunately the cops let the guys go...move along...nothing happening... |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 03:50 PM |
#140 |
  
Yep! |
goforit |
Apr-30-06 03:17 PM |
#270 |
 
hahaha! |
orleans |
Apr-19-06 09:59 PM |
#32 |

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Apr-20-06 12:28 AM |
#54 |

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Apr-20-06 12:35 AM |
#55 |

Strange coverage of this story - FBI & Homeland Security |
OzarkDem |
Apr-19-06 06:45 PM |
#9 |
 
Interesting. And a "drug dog" heist, to boot. |
sofa king |
Apr-19-06 07:00 PM |
#14 |
  
4th amendment died years ago |
gorgan |
Apr-23-06 03:34 PM |
#237 |
 
"they picked it up in Chicago" FOR WHO? |
BeHereNow |
Apr-19-06 07:59 PM |
#19 |
 
$500,000. That's HALF a MIL! |
AuntiBush |
Apr-19-06 11:59 PM |
#45 |
  
No one claims $500,000 stash in truck |
struggle4progress |
Apr-20-06 12:39 AM |
#57 |
 
Controlled substances isn't just drugs it's also explosives. Curiouser. nt |
glitch |
Apr-20-06 12:54 PM |
#123 |
 
VERY telling paragraph!!!!!!!!! |
acmavm |
Apr-22-06 03:29 PM |
#217 |
 
why did cops let these suspicious characters go? No charges even tho drug |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 03:53 PM |
#141 |
  
from what I understand a lot of our cash has drug residue on it |
ktlyon |
Apr-22-06 04:32 PM |
#221 |
 
Good Going, Security Guards! |
OKthatsIT |
Apr-20-06 09:34 PM |
#177 |
 
The Chicago link is strange |
dansolo |
Apr-21-06 08:00 AM |
#184 |

Contact FBI? Why? They take information and burn it! |
goforit |
Apr-30-06 03:20 PM |
#271 |

strange... |
Blue_Tires |
Apr-19-06 06:47 PM |
#10 |

Huh?? Okay, now that's just a wee bit creepy... |
Ecumenist |
Apr-19-06 06:48 PM |
#11 |

video has a different version of events |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-19-06 06:52 PM |
#12 |
 
they left the money at the plant? but left without the 'tools'? |
anotherdrew |
Apr-19-06 08:07 PM |
#23 |

This Has Legs....Cheneys Energy Task Force In Fruition...geesh |
Lostnote06 |
Apr-19-06 10:42 PM |
#38 |

At least the PA Emergency Management Agency is on top of this |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-19-06 06:59 PM |
#13 |

I guess that I would prefer to be.... |
Lostnote06 |
Apr-19-06 07:22 PM |
#15 |

In what currency does that come out in round numbers? n/t |
formercia |
Apr-19-06 08:03 PM |
#21 |
 
25,211 $20s and a $10? 10,084 $50s and 3 $10s? 5,042,300 dimes? |
Thor_MN |
Apr-19-06 09:37 PM |
#27 |
  
I should have specified foreign currency n/t |
formercia |
Apr-20-06 08:14 AM |
#101 |
  
How do we make money? |
Tyrone Slothrop |
Apr-21-06 12:35 PM |
#196 |
 
Good question. |
progressoid |
Apr-19-06 10:09 PM |
#35 |
 
How about 1/2 million plus costs? |
mccoyn |
May-01-06 03:44 PM |
#276 |

Who says it's a worker? |
Kailassa |
May-01-06 05:26 PM |
#279 |

This is easy.. |
sendero |
Apr-19-06 08:05 PM |
#22 |

I can't believe this thread is sinking. KICK...n/t |
BeHereNow |
Apr-19-06 09:00 PM |
#24 |

kick n/t |
IowaGuy |
Apr-19-06 09:33 PM |
#25 |

this is weird enough - w/o the halfmillion dollars. |
electron_blue |
Apr-19-06 09:36 PM |
#26 |

Kick! |
Janice325 |
Apr-19-06 09:41 PM |
#28 |

A First Energy plant |
OzarkDem |
Apr-19-06 09:52 PM |
#30 |

Okay, this should raise issues |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-19-06 09:55 PM |
#31 |
 
And the Story States they were in a Tractor-Trailer |
AuntiBush |
Apr-20-06 12:04 AM |
#47 |
 
Just a side thought |
Horse with no Name |
Apr-20-06 05:34 PM |
#162 |

kick for weirdness |
Lochloosa |
Apr-19-06 10:07 PM |
#33 |

What? |
girl gone mad |
Apr-19-06 10:09 PM |
#34 |
 
Uh Huh |
Ghost Dog |
Apr-20-06 04:37 AM |
#82 |

Cheneys New Energy Policy in Fruition...... |
Lostnote06 |
Apr-19-06 10:38 PM |
#36 |
 
nuther kick n/t |
Kailassa |
Apr-20-06 09:31 AM |
#110 |

. |
Beam Me Up |
Apr-19-06 10:41 PM |
#37 |

THEY LET THE TRUCKERS GO, BUT DETAINED REPORTERS? |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-19-06 10:50 PM |
#39 |
 
teach those reporters to take pictures |
uppityperson |
Apr-19-06 11:39 PM |
#42 |
  
Whose idea was it to let the guys go? My money's on the FBI... n/t |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-19-06 11:41 PM |
#43 |
 
I don't think so... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-20-06 03:34 AM |
#77 |
 
I agree, Lala. It was a DHS decision. |
Dunvegan |
Apr-20-06 05:38 AM |
#90 |
  
Yes...Bechtel is involved. |
Dunvegan |
Apr-20-06 05:42 AM |
#91 |
 
at least they're putting out a decent cover story now... |
cryingshame |
Apr-20-06 01:00 PM |
#125 |
 
A flat bed truck to pick up tools? Equipment yes, but not tools. |
0007 |
Apr-21-06 10:52 AM |
#192 |
 
who does the agent "stand up" for? BushCo criminals? |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:04 PM |
#143 |
 
where is this report? |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:55 PM |
#159 |
 
i cannot find the reporters info, but need it... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-21-06 06:43 PM |
#210 |

Thank you SO much |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-22-06 04:30 PM |
#220 |

Kick |
preciousdove |
Apr-19-06 11:15 PM |
#40 |

kick for the 'WTF' factor |
Blue_Tires |
Apr-19-06 11:29 PM |
#41 |

News about the plant from last week |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-20-06 12:01 AM |
#46 |

Kicked! |
AuntiBush |
Apr-20-06 12:05 AM |
#48 |

"putting on detective hat" |
Kailassa |
Apr-20-06 12:05 AM |
#49 |
 
Well the truck was from Liddy/McCord/Hunt trucking... |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-20-06 12:09 AM |
#50 |
  
Ohferchrissakes... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-20-06 12:17 AM |
#51 |
 
Doesn't this remind you of the botched Watergate break in? |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-20-06 12:20 AM |
#52 |
 
Now that you mention it... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-20-06 01:20 AM |
#64 |
  
well these guys, it appears, won't be arraigned. Someone's been paid off |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:08 PM |
#144 |
 
at least their names are out there... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-20-06 04:54 PM |
#157 |
 
IF those are real names. Remember, one "lost" his ID when it was "stolen" |
wordpix |
Apr-21-06 10:28 AM |
#188 |
 
Doesn't it though. |
midnight |
May-02-06 11:08 AM |
#286 |
 
Bingo, I think you got it right! nt |
cassiepriam |
May-02-06 09:50 AM |
#283 |

FYI-- lots of pictures of Beaver Valley |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-20-06 12:21 AM |
#53 |

Whaaaaa? |
Pirate Smile |
Apr-20-06 12:39 AM |
#56 |

MORE DETAILS IN...BECHTEL INVOLVED: |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-20-06 12:42 AM |
#58 |
 
FYI: The Bechtel-Cheney connection: |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-20-06 12:50 AM |
#59 |
 
Sooo, the guy has no ID ... but the feds say this ain't about terrorism? |
LiberalHeart |
Apr-20-06 01:17 AM |
#63 |
  
I found that strange too---and then they let these guys GO! WTF? |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:24 PM |
#147 |
  
Well he was white dang it... |
IA_Seth |
Apr-28-06 03:41 PM |
#257 |
 
Does not compute |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-20-06 01:21 AM |
#65 |
  
Where was the passenger at the power plant. Did they open |
0007 |
Apr-21-06 10:44 AM |
#191 |
  
It was a flatbed truck. |
mccoyn |
May-01-06 04:03 PM |
#277 |
 
So I called the feds/PA to see what I could get... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-20-06 03:31 AM |
#75 |
  
Somebody needs to cover this...the current "drug deal gone bad"... |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-20-06 07:44 AM |
#97 |
  
Thanks for looking into this lala. |
myrna minx |
Apr-20-06 09:27 AM |
#109 |
   
nope, you are right... but let me put out my article on Iran |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-20-06 11:42 AM |
#119 |
    
LOL--When do you ever get any sleep? |
myrna minx |
Apr-20-06 12:29 PM |
#120 |
   
I slept for three hours... good to go:) |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-20-06 12:48 PM |
#121 |
   
No one is talking... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-20-06 11:07 PM |
#178 |
  
I wonder if all of your sources aren't talking |
myrna minx |
Apr-21-06 11:41 AM |
#194 |
  
good post. |
henslee |
Apr-21-06 04:06 PM |
#204 |
  
Half a mil is an awful high payoff for a simple case job, seems to me. |
djmaddox1 |
Apr-22-06 02:29 AM |
#214 |
  
good try but obviously, feds don't want to talk about why they let these |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:27 PM |
#148 |
 
That's weird, didn't the other story, (or was it the video) say that |
Catrina |
Apr-20-06 03:33 AM |
#76 |
  
And it looks to me like they tried to run away.... |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-20-06 08:18 AM |
#102 |
 
yeah, right, pull the big rig out of there while the security guys are |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:29 PM |
#149 |
 
i know. Jesus what happened to the days when we could get a propaganda |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Apr-20-06 07:38 PM |
#172 |
 
spokesman for the plant, Wilkins, sounds suspicious to me: |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:20 PM |
#146 |
  
Very suspicious |
OzarkDem |
Apr-20-06 06:27 PM |
#167 |
  
right nothing says that you can't carry a lot of cash around with you. |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Apr-20-06 07:40 PM |
#173 |
 
Bechtel has links to bin Laden and Saudi Royal families |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 05:05 PM |
#160 |

more including Bechtel's participation in Iraq's nuke program under Saddam |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 05:20 PM |
#161 |

Well here's the list of "the news" for today |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-20-06 01:06 AM |
#60 |
 
I just sent links to Olbermann. K&R! |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:30 PM |
#150 |

Be the media |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-20-06 04:39 PM |
#154 |

A big KICK (n/t) |
LiberalHeart |
Apr-20-06 01:08 AM |
#61 |

The Cheney, Iran and MIHOP connection- |
BeHereNow |
Apr-20-06 01:08 AM |
#62 |
 
No |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-20-06 03:38 AM |
#78 |
  
"the urinary executive branch" Great Typo :D |
cryingshame |
Apr-20-06 01:04 PM |
#127 |
   
Yep, should have been "the Ruinary Executive Branch" n/t |
Kailassa |
Apr-20-06 01:21 PM |
#128 |
  
your hypothesis is based on the urinary exec. being competent & able to |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:33 PM |
#152 |
 
I am starting to be a MIHOP believer too. The connection could be true |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:31 PM |
#151 |

Someone should save the video of that |
fishwax |
Apr-20-06 01:40 AM |
#66 |

Anniversaries of Waco and OKC bombing |
Mabus |
Apr-20-06 01:40 AM |
#67 |
 
WTF! Way, Way Stranger Than Fiction |
clixtox |
Apr-20-06 02:08 AM |
#69 |

Thanks a pile, RamboLiberal! |
Bigmack |
Apr-20-06 01:50 AM |
#68 |

Counting Lotsa Cash In Smurfing Format |
clixtox |
Apr-20-06 02:31 AM |
#70 |

Did the police check the cargo too? |
hunter |
Apr-20-06 02:50 AM |
#71 |
 
It appears that they had no cargo. |
yibbehobba |
Apr-20-06 07:37 AM |
#96 |

How did they let these guys leave? If they are legit, there must be a |
henslee |
Apr-20-06 03:07 AM |
#73 |

This feels like an episode of 24. |
henslee |
Apr-20-06 03:46 AM |
#79 |
 
So, {tin_foil_hat_time} IF this was a pay-off for radioactive waste... |
Dunvegan |
Apr-20-06 04:30 AM |
#81 |

Why on earth should these indiv. be hard to locate if they were legit... |
henslee |
Apr-20-06 04:54 AM |
#83 |
 
Not random is right. They had to be cleared to even be able to drive into |
Dunvegan |
Apr-20-06 05:02 AM |
#85 |

Nothing on Drudge? Too strange. This story screams drudge. |
henslee |
Apr-20-06 05:08 AM |
#86 |

I'm no lawyer but as we know, DHS/FBI can hold/investigate whoever they |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:37 PM |
#153 |

US Money Supply Tainted With Drugs |
Dunvegan |
Apr-20-06 04:28 AM |
#80 |

Nothing on Cnn homepage yet. WTF? |
henslee |
Apr-20-06 05:00 AM |
#84 |
 
And I thought "terra" made news. |
Dunvegan |
Apr-20-06 05:09 AM |
#87 |

But what truck cost half a mil? One tricked out by the Pimp my Ride guys? |
henslee |
Apr-20-06 06:09 AM |
#93 |

cheney made terra NEVER makes news |
leftchick |
Apr-20-06 09:57 AM |
#115 |

"The men say their boss gave them the bag and that he was planning to buy |
henslee |
Apr-20-06 05:14 AM |
#88 |
 
So nobody wants that money. |
Dunvegan |
Apr-20-06 05:21 AM |
#89 |

No one would attempt to bring that much cash in that fashion onto |
henslee |
Apr-20-06 06:01 AM |
#92 |

DU HOMEPAGE |
Oversea Visitor |
Apr-20-06 07:06 AM |
#95 |
 
Heh, heh. |
Ghost Dog |
Apr-20-06 08:30 AM |
#104 |
 
Bechtel workers abandon 500 grand in small bills at a U.S.Nuclear plant & |
henslee |
Apr-20-06 01:38 PM |
#130 |

Kick - hoping for an update? |
Nihil |
Apr-20-06 07:46 AM |
#98 |
 
A few more details in post #58....n/t |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-20-06 07:55 AM |
#99 |

UPDATE #2 - WE NOW HAVE NAMES..... |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-20-06 08:04 AM |
#100 |
 
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Apr-20-06 08:23 AM |
#103 |
 
Here's a coincidence...A Google of "Donald Kingsby" has one hit... |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-20-06 09:11 AM |
#106 |
  
Pine Gap is pretty well known in the |
QuettaKid |
Apr-20-06 11:26 AM |
#117 |
   
Pine Gap is why the CIA ousted Australia's best ever government. |
Kailassa |
Apr-20-06 12:52 PM |
#122 |
  
Wow!!! It also involves nuclear material |
Julius Civitatus |
Apr-20-06 02:27 PM |
#133 |
   
tinfoil hat time, reason for paranoia is real |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:47 PM |
#155 |
  
where does this guy's name come up in PA nuke plant story? |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:55 PM |
#158 |
  
this might not be the same Donald Kingsby but if it is, it's VERY STRANGE |
wordpix2 |
Apr-21-06 08:09 AM |
#185 |
  
keep this kicked |
ima_sinnic |
May-08-06 10:12 AM |
#291 |
 
Why would they need a search warrant to |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-20-06 09:25 AM |
#108 |
 
No, their fignerprints would have been checked. |
Xithras |
Apr-20-06 02:52 PM |
#135 |

weirdness WTF! kick n/t |
bonzotex |
Apr-20-06 08:54 AM |
#105 |

Try doing a Google search for stories of this incident |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-20-06 09:17 AM |
#107 |
 
KICK. nt |
QuettaKid |
Apr-20-06 09:40 AM |
#111 |
 
I found seven article on Google |
OKNancy |
Apr-20-06 09:42 AM |
#112 |

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Apr-20-06 09:43 AM |
#113 |
 
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Apr-20-06 09:50 AM |
#114 |
  
Probably because the phrase "MIHOP" was used in the original post. |
file83 |
Apr-20-06 01:55 PM |
#132 |
 
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Apr-20-06 01:32 PM |
#129 |

Down in the polls? ... |
Veronica.Franco |
Apr-20-06 10:07 AM |
#116 |

Rawstory |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-20-06 11:34 AM |
#118 |
 
PM KICK . nt |
QuettaKid |
Apr-20-06 01:03 PM |
#126 |

KICK - because the SOMEBODY is lying - the trucker first said |
file83 |
Apr-20-06 01:53 PM |
#131 |
 
Bechtel-Cheney-GOP contributors -truckers let go by DHS/FBI- $500K no one |
wordpix |
Apr-20-06 04:50 PM |
#156 |

Flight 93 didn't crash too far from there.... |
slybacon9 |
Apr-20-06 02:40 PM |
#134 |

google kingsby nuclear |
ironrooster |
Apr-20-06 03:04 PM |
#136 |

I wonder if these truck drivers |
junior college |
Apr-20-06 05:43 PM |
#163 |

Amazing the stories that are not considered newsworthy |
Minstrel Boy |
Apr-20-06 05:43 PM |
#164 |

What would be the just cause for nuking Iran? |
endarkenment |
Apr-20-06 06:07 PM |
#165 |
 
Well, I think (dangerous) that |
junior college |
Apr-20-06 06:48 PM |
#168 |

Very strange indeed, reminds me of this story |
blonndee |
Apr-20-06 06:13 PM |
#166 |
 
uhm, I can't be certain, but I don't think |
QuettaKid |
Apr-21-06 07:42 AM |
#183 |

I don't know why this would be forbidden-it's a fact that the men |
blonndee |
Apr-21-06 10:23 AM |
#187 |

kick |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Apr-20-06 07:48 PM |
#174 |

Bizarre story indeed. |
Jazz2006 |
Apr-20-06 08:04 PM |
#175 |
 
I think you solved the mystery. |
DemonFighterLives |
Apr-20-06 09:27 PM |
#176 |

ok, I forwarded this on to Democracy Now |
boddhi |
Apr-20-06 11:12 PM |
#179 |
 
Here's another update: |
file83 |
Apr-20-06 11:32 PM |
#180 |

Houston coverage of "an unbelievable find " |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-20-06 11:59 PM |
#181 |
 
just drugs, not plan to exchange money for a bit of nuclear material |
Supersedeas |
Apr-21-06 12:51 PM |
#197 |
  
Dead. |
henslee |
Apr-21-06 01:26 PM |
#199 |
 
Hey, there's the answer for the money |
Jose Diablo |
Apr-21-06 01:33 PM |
#201 |

Freepers' Views on this |
catlawyer |
Apr-21-06 01:27 AM |
#182 |
 
Yes, and notice how none of our DU threads |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-21-06 08:50 AM |
#186 |

well at least one freeper got that it could be a dirty bomb plot. One out |
wordpix |
Apr-21-06 10:33 AM |
#189 |

KICK. nt. |
QuettaKid |
Apr-21-06 10:40 AM |
#190 |

they got this photo right |
RawMaterials |
Apr-21-06 01:10 PM |
#198 |

kick-back money? was it going to crawford?? |
sattahipdeep |
Apr-21-06 11:09 AM |
#193 |

If this were a non-story, we'd have more follow up info/closure. kick. |
henslee |
Apr-21-06 12:16 PM |
#195 |

Hey maybe these guys were just |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-21-06 01:30 PM |
#200 |
 
and the corruption keeps on rolling like a trailer truck |
wordpix |
Apr-21-06 06:04 PM |
#208 |

kick for my own sanity. |
henslee |
Apr-21-06 02:54 PM |
#202 |

I'm going to kick this |
SalviaBlue |
Apr-21-06 03:00 PM |
#203 |

kick |
redwitch |
Apr-21-06 04:12 PM |
#205 |

Kick again |
catlawyer |
Apr-21-06 04:35 PM |
#206 |

They must have phoned some incredibly powerful people to get this fixed. |
oblivious |
Apr-21-06 05:36 PM |
#207 |

um kids... is this you related given that it was the night before? |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-21-06 06:24 PM |
#209 |

See my earlier post... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-21-06 08:58 PM |
#211 |

Did anyone else ever show up to pick up the tools? |
hedgehog |
Apr-21-06 09:35 PM |
#212 |
 
That's what makes no sense to me too. |
catlawyer |
Apr-22-06 01:22 AM |
#213 |

This is a typical ZVS |
classics |
Apr-22-06 03:56 AM |
#215 |
 
reminds me of Frontline's "Private Warriors" in that KBR's "subsidiaries" |
wordpix2 |
Apr-22-06 12:58 PM |
#216 |
 
names of the drivers in post #100 |
Minstrel Boy |
Apr-22-06 03:54 PM |
#218 |

Kingsby, Lewis and Marsh |
sattahipdeep |
Apr-23-06 10:19 AM |
#234 |

I've delivered to Nuc plants |
DiverDave |
Apr-22-06 06:49 PM |
#222 |

We must get this story out! |
clixtox |
Apr-22-06 07:51 PM |
#223 |
 
And the story remains "fresh" as long as |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-22-06 08:41 PM |
#225 |

ttt one time |
Blue_Tires |
Apr-22-06 07:54 PM |
#224 |
 
ttt n/t |
Blue_Tires |
May-02-06 08:03 AM |
#281 |

It looks as if the plant had just been refueled |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-22-06 08:48 PM |
#226 |

Hey, the story broke on a UK website: Intelligence and Terrorism News |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-22-06 08:54 PM |
#227 |
 
This makes no sense at all. People are being arrested in this country |
Catrina |
Apr-22-06 09:38 PM |
#228 |

Progress-- story now up on UPI Intelligence Watch |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-23-06 12:29 AM |
#230 |

Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-23-06 12:37 AM |
#231 |

Daily KOS and other discussion board talking about this... |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-23-06 12:46 AM |
#232 |

"FBI probes nuclear reactor hole"-- I never heard about this one! |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-23-06 01:06 AM |
#233 |

The Chicago connection makes me real nervous |
kma3346 |
Apr-23-06 01:15 PM |
#236 |

More on Marsh... |
Culhavoc |
Apr-25-06 01:23 PM |
#238 |
 
"False Flag Nuke Attack"? Does this mean a training exercise? |
mod mom |
Apr-25-06 02:07 PM |
#240 |
  
No training exercise |
Culhavoc |
Apr-25-06 02:10 PM |
#241 |
 
is it verified that those are one and the same? |
QuettaKid |
Apr-25-06 04:51 PM |
#245 |
  
Looks to be the same person |
Culhavoc |
Apr-26-06 09:23 AM |
#248 |
 
That pdf won't open for me |
spotbird |
Apr-28-06 02:51 PM |
#256 |

If this were a movie - 5oo thou would be the down payment and the other |
higher class |
Apr-25-06 01:42 PM |
#239 |

Kick. All nuclear power plants should be alerted to this strange event. |
The Wielding Truth |
Apr-25-06 02:38 PM |
#242 |
 
KICK to the top of the page. nt. |
QuettaKid |
Apr-25-06 04:48 PM |
#244 |

kick. |
henslee |
Apr-25-06 04:51 PM |
#246 |
 
kick.nt |
QuettaKid |
Apr-26-06 08:08 AM |
#247 |

kick! |
phusion |
Apr-26-06 11:38 AM |
#249 |

has this story run out of steam? nt. |
QuettaKid |
Apr-27-06 03:07 PM |
#250 |

I hunted around last night for some additional press. |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-27-06 03:09 PM |
#251 |

I Sure Hope This Story Gets More "Legs" |
clixtox |
Apr-28-06 05:00 AM |
#252 |

How about we just keep kicking it until we DO get more info? |
QuettaKid |
Apr-28-06 07:59 AM |
#253 |

Friday morning kick |
stlsaxman |
Apr-28-06 09:34 AM |
#254 |

Nuclear Reg Commission evidently not inclined to file a report on this... |
lagavulin |
Apr-28-06 02:02 PM |
#255 |

Friday night kick |
stlsaxman |
Apr-28-06 08:00 PM |
#258 |
 
Nothing to see here, move along. |
henslee |
Apr-28-06 08:05 PM |
#259 |
 
WE SURELY DO... |
clixtox |
Apr-29-06 12:27 AM |
#262 |

Most likely drug money. |
superconnected |
Apr-28-06 08:25 PM |
#261 |

Fuel Rod replacement was completed the day the truckies arrived. |
Kailassa |
Apr-29-06 01:52 PM |
#263 |
 
Terror drill, dirty bomb simulation, Chicago: May 2-4 |
Kailassa |
Apr-30-06 04:59 AM |
#264 |

Thanks for organizing... |
clixtox |
Apr-30-06 07:41 AM |
#265 |
 
No worries, someone needed to show the way things link up. |
Kailassa |
May-01-06 03:40 AM |
#272 |

That's spooky about Chicago |
catlawyer |
May-01-06 03:34 PM |
#275 |

A few mentions online. All refer back to Cpt. Eric May. |
Kailassa |
May-01-06 05:14 PM |
#278 |

kick for the lamestream media. |
henslee |
Apr-30-06 10:08 AM |
#266 |

My tin foil hat is firmly in place |
newspeak |
Apr-30-06 03:04 PM |
#267 |

April 16-17 PEMA report |
appleannie1 |
Apr-30-06 03:12 PM |
#268 |
 
KICK and a GIANT THANK YOU to everyone |
QuettaKid |
May-01-06 08:32 AM |
#273 |

kick. |
henslee |
May-01-06 02:43 PM |
#274 |
 
KICK. nt. |
QuettaKid |
May-02-06 07:23 AM |
#280 |

Bizarre lack of MSM Interest or reporting |
clixtox |
May-02-06 09:30 AM |
#282 |

KEEP THIS THREAD KICKED 4EVER. |
henslee |
May-02-06 10:30 AM |
#284 |
 
kick |
JerseygirlCT |
May-02-06 12:57 PM |
#287 |

KICK. nt. |
QuettaKid |
May-02-06 03:23 PM |
#288 |

KICK n/t |
paagal kutta |
May-03-06 02:56 AM |
#289 |

So they recovered 500k of the missing 8 billion? |
lonestarnot |
May-08-06 10:29 AM |
#292 |

Talk about a drop in the bucket. |
genieroze |
May-08-06 02:40 PM |
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When I do, I imagine that they were paid to steal nuclear material to plant else where-maybe Iran. Then U.S. could say that Iran was doing what we wanted to say they were doing,and we could go to war with them. But that was just an imagining I had.
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So the owners, FENOC, had 56 to 60 hot fuel assemblies to dispose of. So I doubt anything was being stolen. It was just being set up in such a way that the owners could later deny knowing anything about it. The truck was organised by Bechtel, who have close connections with Cheney, worked hard at bringing about the war with Iraq, and have profited immensely from the war. The truck was sent from Chicago, where a "terror drill" involving a simulation of a a dirty bomb attack is being held between the 1st and the 4th of this month. http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=10137 Bush has already indicated that if any "terror" incident takes place in America, he will attack Iran in retaliation, even if the attack cannot be linked with Iran. (See a later post of mine for more details. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... )
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Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 04:25 PM by wordpix
with a tractor trailer??? With $500K in tow that they picked up in Chicago but don't know anything about?  snip: The men, who are from Houston, said they picked up the bag in Chicago and had no knowledge of its contents, according to police.  Investigators think the cash may have a drug connection. A police dog picked up the scent of drugs in the sleeper cab of the truck where the bag was found, police said. Both men were detained and later released. No charges have been filed.
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We are all going to need a big bag of money to fill-up soon.
or maybe they were bringing coke to Chicago and the money was from the sale, but Houston, home of GHWB wouldn't have coke for sale would it?
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no names, no trucking company name, ...Nothing?
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They were released! Not considered anything to do with possible terrorist? Strange story. No info. With you on that, stillcool47.
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And the state troopers would have found it quickly. The amount of uranium needed for a bomb is enough uranium to need some serious shielding, otherwise the two truckers, the state troopers, and their dog too, would all be dead right now. Bomb grade uranium and plutonium is highly radioactive, and they would have had to shield it in a lead pig, slipped into a DU container, slid into a wood or metal overpack. All told, the package would have been about five by five by five feet aprox., and weighed close to a half a ton. Not very easy to hide.
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and were intending to pick up two LARGE containers. There had been a security alert at the plant a week earlier, which may have been triggered by someone stealing something, or may have been triggered in order to empty the plant to make a theft possible. If this is what happened, I'm sure it would have been packed as you describe before the truckies got there to pick it up.
Apparently they never picked up the containers, because the security at the plant got suspicious, rang the police, and the guys left fast.
So the state troopers never got to see the containers.
I wonder if the people who organised it will try again, or did the security guys do America a huge favor and prevent something bad long-term.
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"two large containers" too.
And in a legitimate, non-shady pick-up of the equipment, wouldn't the truck drivers submit to an inspection of their truck?
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The midterm elections are getting close, so it's time to ramp up the terrorism/fear card to placate the masses. It's like clockwork.
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Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 06:46 PM by OzarkDem
Police say the two men picked it up in Chicago, but didn't know what was inside? Homeland Security involved, of course. http://www.wtov9.com/news/8834479/detail.html Security stopped the truck and did a routine inspection. During that search the security discovered a padlocked duffel bag, and opened it up. Inside they found more than $500,000, but police said the men left after the search. However, security did contact state police, and the two men in the truck were pulled over. State police said a drug dog detected the scent of drugs on the money, and they confiscated it. Now the FBI and Homeland Security are involved. The worry is that the money may be connected to terrorist activity. However, the men claim they picked it up in Chicago and didn't know what was inside. State Police say they believe them. "At this time we do not believe it was associated with the power plant," said Sgt. Douglas Humble, of the Pennsylvania State Police. Officials at the plant said the incident is a good sign that their security measures are working. Police are still investigating.
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Corrupt police around the nation have been making good money by using the "drug dog" heist. Any large sum of cash has traces of illegal drugs on it. The cops grab it and sometimes nobody asks for it back. Free money.
This time, however, I've got a hunch that someone very, very well connected with the federal government is going to want it back. Won't that be interesting to see?
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your property can be seized on the 'word' of a dog???? Cops take cars, houses, anything of value, on the slimmest of pretexts. The work Gonzalez and Bush have been doing on the 4th is just the final few nails in its coffin.
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As in the old adage, "Follow the money..." WHO did they pick up the money for? That is the question that should be asked. Someone told them to pick it up. Unfortunately, we will probably never know as the story will most likely disappear. BHN
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So we have:
Half a million bucks. Strange travel - long distant at that. No names mentioned, no trucking firm, nada. Nuke Power Plant Duffel Bag
Trying to get this straight. We've witnessed Senators fleeing out of DC buildings if they see anything strange over the last several years, but this story is strange.
Got the creeps now! I live near one of those ports and heard a lot of drills going on today.
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Thursday, April 20, 2006 By Cindi Lash, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette When security guards at the Beaver Valley Power Station discovered a bag containing thousands of dollars in a tractor-trailer cab, one of the vehicle's occupants told them his boss planned to use the cash to buy a truck. It must have been some truck. State police said the bag, which guards spotted on Tuesday while conducting a routine search of the tractor-trailer at the entrance to the nuclear power plant, contained 10 plastic-wrapped bundles of cash totaling $504,230. Police later seized the money and bag after a dog trained to detect drugs sniffed and reacted to the bag, indicating contact with controlled substances. <snip> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06110/683609-57.stm
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<snip>
The truckers worked for a company hired by San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., which is performing construction work and replacing equipment at the plant, said Richard Wilkins, spokesman for plant owner First Energy Nuclear Operating Co.
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than the write up.
If I heard correctly-- the bag was left behind at the power plant when the men took off. An important point since if the guys were merely transporting it from point A to point B, then why was it ever off the truck?
The scent of the drugs was on the money and not on just in the truck cab.
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this stinks, we need a nationwide private investigative body for things like this. Right now someone like moveon should be hiring about 4 private detectives to track and trace everything involving this matter. Instead, as pointed out by someone else, this will disappear down the memory hole...
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......high as a kite to work at place such as that.....Hush money???.....maybe they sprung a leak in a pipeline leading up to the back of the potable water reservoir in the toilet, thank Gawd they haven'nt flushed yet....."sweet nuclear tea" in the springtime.....
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Disposing of the used fuel assemblies is an ever worsening problem for the owners of nuclear power plants, after they get more than they can legally keep on the property.
Receiving a million dollars and having the hot fuel rods disposed of, and being able to charge for the packaging too, might an offer FENOC could not refuse.
And Fenoc had just completed a fuel assembly replacement, leaving them with 56 to 60 hot assemblies to dispose of.
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The FBI is saying that they don't think violence or what not was the plan. But let us consider the basics, that is the forensics of this.
-Houston, 2 men, drive to Chicago to pick up duffle bag? -The duffle bag has 500k in it, which they claim they did not know about? (So you drove all the way to Chicago to pick up a bag of nothing? Right!) -They then drive to Pen to pick up tools? Just what kind of tools are wroth that kind of mileage? -The cash was in small bills? That kind of money??? -Why is their contractor not named?
What we need to know is a). who they are and b). who they were working for in order to answer c). what they were doing at that facility. The FBI has not given us a, other than geographical info, nor have they given us b, so it appears that we are stuck with a speculative c.
On the face of it, it is incredibly suspect if for nothing more than a drug deal or such. Remember, Chicago is the hot bed of mafia activity right now too.
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So, add picking-up a duffel bag in a tractor trailer to the basics.
Creepy, strange.
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Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 05:44 PM by Horse with no Name
Does the Dubai group run any ports in Pennsylvania and if they do--is it possible that whatever "tools" they picked up came from another country? In other words--->Originated in Houston (port city--who runs the ports-I know Dubai runs the Beaumont port which is not far from Houston) then they go to Chicago then drive to another port? Something really stinks.
On edit: Both the Port of Houston and the Port of Philadelphia were included in the Dubai Port deal. Things that make you go hmmmm....
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I think DHS, because the agent in charge of that field office, I am told is "a stand up guy." It would be his call to drop these guys. But we shall see, because I could not get anyone on the phone long enough to answer a single question.
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The FBI would have been all over this like a dirty shirt, unless they were over-ruled.
Now, who has the power (in this Administration) to stand-down the FBI? The overseeing DHS does.
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No one claims $500,000 stash in truckThursday, April 20, 2006 By Cindi Lash, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette The truckers worked for a company hired by San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., which is performing construction work and replacing equipment at the plant, said Richard Wilkins, spokesman for plant owner First Energy Nuclear Operating Co.
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Business news briefs: 4/15/06 Saturday, April 15, 2006 From staff and wire reports Nuclear plant back on lineFirstEnergy Corp.'s Beaver Valley nuclear unit 2 in Shippingport is back to full power after the sprinkler system was triggered accidentally on Tuesday, prompting the company to take the plant down to 20 percent power. The Nuclear Energy Regulatory Commission said a complete shutdown was unnecessary, and the unit was back at full power Wednesday afternoon. The replacement of water-damaged charcoal filters is nearly complete, a company spokeswoman said, while an investigation into the cause of the sprinkler system's activation continues.http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06105/682344-28.stm
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One possible explanation:
Villain wants nuclear material. Villain arranges for accomplice at plant to put nuclear material into tool containers. Villain gives 2 men 1/2 a million in small notes as down-payment to pick the stuff up and deliver it. Police get involved so the 2 men part with their down-payment as a bribe. The police turn a blind eye to the containers of "tools" being transported.
It's interesting that these were large containers, needing a tractor-trailer o carry them, but in both stories the containers just "disappear".
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an image comes to mind of the dudes from Miami being arraigned, with high-powered attorneys by their side, sending the red flags up for Woodward and Bernstein.
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.... The truckers worked for a company hired by San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., which is performing construction work and replacing equipment at the plant, said Richard Wilkins, spokesman for plant owner First Energy Nuclear Operating Co. The name of the company was not released, but police said the truckers had come from Chicago and were making a scheduled stop to pick up and transport containers of tools to Youngstown, Ohio. .... In the search, the officers found a green, blue and black duffel bag with a padlock in the sleeper berth of the cab, Trooper Bayer said. The truckers didn't have a key for the lock, so guards cut it off and spotted cash inside, he said. The truckers said the money wasn't theirs and they didn't know how it got there, Trooper Bayer said. In court papers filed to obtain a search warrant, state police said one of the truckers told security officers that "it was their money and he was going to buy a truck with it."
But when the security workers called the truckers' boss in Houston, he also said he knew nothing about the money. The security officers called police, but the truckers backed out of the plant and drove off.
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06110/683609-57.stm
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Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 01:31 AM by TexasLawyer
Three items reported in the article:
"The money was found in the sleeper berth of the cab"-- (of a truck on a cross country journey with a driver and a passenger. So they would have been tripping over/sleeping with that duffel bag 24/7). "The truckers said the money wasn't theirs and they didn't know how it got there," (How did they know that the contents were precious, needed to be guarded, kept in sleeper cab, etc...).
"one of the truckers told security officers that "it was their money and he was going to buy a truck with it." (so they DID know how it got there).
hmmmmm
Also this part of the story was very odd:
"Police broadcast a description of the truck and Sgt. Davis pulled it over after spotting it on Route 168 south, near the Shippingport Bridge. He said the truckers were polite, but the passenger had no identification and said it had been stolen from the truck the night before.
"Your ID is stolen but not that bag of cash? Red flags were popping up all over," Sgt. Davis said."
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The only place they could have kept the duffel was in the cab. Of course, they had to know what it was or at least where it came from. Thats just a lie. Same thing about a stolen ID. Both these are suspected lies though. They couldn't arrest them for it.
There was zero evidence of a crime, so they got to go. Freedom from excesive detainment doesn't apply to just you and me you know.
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And i was put on hold, over and over and over and over. I just kept hitting redial. Now usually what they do is transfer you to the press secretary or his/her voicemail, in this case, i was dropped, transfered and put on hold. Very odd indeed. I am going to call national feds in the morning. It is 3 am and I must sleep finally for a good 2 hours (blah).
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