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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:39 AM
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Bush-Cheney training activists for the 2004 Florida campaign
Posted on Sat, Nov. 15, 2003

Bush-Cheney training activists for the 2004 Florida campaign
BRENDAN FARRINGTON
Associated Press

TAMPA, Fla. - President Bush's re-election campaign told Republican activists Saturday to assume the 2004 election will be as close as it was four years when a 537-vote margin in Florida ultimately decided the presidency.

The message came during one in a series of training sessions the campaign organized to build a grass-roots network, a traditional Democratic strength, that will help increase Republican turnout and spread the president's message.

"This is not a pep rally," campaign spokesman Reed Dickens told more than 200 people gathered for the two-hour meeting. "You're here to get homework for the next 12 months."

The group, which included Tampa Bay area party leaders and volunteers, was told that grass-roots efforts will be the key to winning the election and winning it with enough votes to avoid another recount. (snip/...)

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/7271518.htm


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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:48 AM
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1. Even though Jeb won handily,
they see Florida as this close.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 01:08 AM
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2. I hate to say this..
but I'm skeptical of our chances in Florida as long as Jeb is in charge.

And I would say Ohio should be our top non-Gore state priority, but I worry about Diebold there.

Arizona & Missouri, perhaps?
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 01:17 AM
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4. Ohio, Missouri, and Arizona are all more likely than Florida, IMHO
Jeb simply will not let his brother lose. Those "activists" are the front for a major dirty tricks and vote fraud organization. However, their job is complicated this year because more people are paying attention. He can't just wipe 60,000 voters off the rolls here and there, this time around. The Florida Democratic party is going to fight him every inch of the way on this one, but I'll bet Jeb can rig the election regardless, with help from the good folks at Diebold.

Winning Arizona and shoring up New Mexico are higher priorities than Florida. Ohio is within reach, but requires solid campaigning. And maybe, just maybe, Louisiana will go Democrat. Every minute the Democratic nominee spends in those states is worth ten in Florida.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 11:01 AM
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19. I agree completely!
We have a big country, and there are many votes west of the Ohio River. We shouldn't ignore Florida, but we shouldn't put too much emphasis there either.

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BigLed Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 11:39 AM
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24. A question
Have the eliglble voters who were unable to vote last time been able to correct the record? Is there a campaign by the Dems to get this to happen?

Oops, two questions.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:15 PM
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27. The settlement with NAACP et al should have had them reinstated in 2002
AFTER the gubernatorial election, of course.

I haven't heard any confirmation that this has happened. However, here is a bit from USCCR:

"On September 3, 2002, a final settlement of a lawsuit brought by the NAACP, People for the American Way, and other civil rights groups against state and local elections officials and agencies was reached. As mentioned earlier, the lawsuit alleged that African Americans in Florida were denied their right to vote because of faulty election equipment, inadequate and mishandled voter registration procedures, and a flawed system for removing convicted felons and others from voter registration lists. The terms of the settlement include, among other provisions:

* The creation of a new position to monitor Floridas compliance with the National Voter Registration Act, also known as the motor-voter law.

* Increased efforts by the Departments of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles and Children and Families to encourage voter registration at their offices under the motor-voter law.

* Restoration of the names of voters who were improperly removed from the voter lists.

* Reevaluation of the names purged from the voter rolls and the application of more stringent criteria than were used before the 2000 election.

* Increased training on voter registration and polling place procedures for election workers.

After the settlement was reached, Florida Secretary of State Jim Smith and representatives of the plaintiffs issued a statement saying that while they may not agree about the scope, impact and effect of the problems that surfaced during the 2000 presidential election, they share a common desire to promote the continuation and enhancement of election reform in Florida, which transcends their differences.<48>

Jim Smith replaced former Secretary of State Katherine Harris, who resigned to run for Congress. Mr. Smith previously served as secretary of state from 1987 to 1995 and was attorney general from 1979 to 1987. Smith ran for governor as a Democrat in 1986, before becoming a Republican. Secretary Smith, a lawyer and lobbyist, most recently served as co-chairman of the governors 21-member select task force appointed to examine problems in Floridas election system following the 2000 presidential election. According to Governor Bush, Smiths experience and leadership will be critical as Florida approaches the 2002 elections.

http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/sum0802.htm

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss
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Unforgiven Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 09:32 PM
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33. What difference does it make ................
Not to be a dick, but what difference does it make if we can't account for our own dem votes on electronic machines?
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Leados Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 10:57 AM
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18. I think Missouri can be won
if the Dem portrays a strong image (not faux-strong a la Bush) towards things. I think Clark is right that America is 'hungering for leadership.'
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 11:18 AM
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21. If we can win Ohio, we can say "Feh!" to Florida.
I agree that the Dem candidate should fight hard in Florida, but concentrate on other big electoral prize states where we have a fighting chance. If Gore would have won Ohio in '00 (he lost by only 4 points; Nader votes would have made the difference), Florida wouldn't have even mattered.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 09:27 PM
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32. I hate to say this as well, but...
I'm skeptical of our chances as long as Diebold is in
so many places. Currently at least 37 states and growing.

(Oh, and I don't believe for a second that Jeb was
legitimately reelected.)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 01:12 AM
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3. "Activists?"
Will they issue jackboots?
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 09:47 AM
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14. Are they being prepared
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 09:48 AM by Angel_O_Peace
to bang on the windows of the recount room and stage fake protests in the remake of the 2000 election? Are they hoping to get Fed jobs afrom participating in this BS as most of the others did back then?
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 09:52 AM
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15. More paid mobs
to keep the votes from being counted again perhaps. I fear we may have to emulate these tactics next year as threats of violence seems to be the ONLY thing they understand. You don't count my vote I break your face.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 01:17 AM
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5. What is needed
When those pooh bellied, chickenhawk congressional staffers came down to Dade County in 2000 to shut down the recount there was no one there to take them on. If we had had our Teamsters guys there to counter them with an appropriate showing of strength, somehow I think the recount would have proceeded.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 01:31 AM
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6. You got it
As they say, fight fire with fire.

BTW: How CANF terrorists were at that meeting?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 01:40 AM
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7. Here's something you might find interesting, DoYouEverWonder
It concerns a small mob of Cuban "exiles" who assisted in the mob scene during the recount in Florida. I've read other things about them too.

I believe several different groups of Cuban "exiles" actually participated in the trucculent displays during that time, including tv camera shots standing around with their obnoxious "Sore-Loserman" signs.

From the article:


Laura Vianello and Miguel Saavedra: Vigilia Mambisa ringleaders


(snip)....Mambisa's involvement with the Bush campaign began in late July. For a period of about a month, members regularly stood outside Versailles restaurant every Saturday, registering people to vote and handing out absentee-ballot requests. Saavedra fondly recalls U.S. Rep. Ros-Lehtinen and state Republican Party chairman Al Cardenas stopping by periodically with encouraging words. "It was a community service," says Vianello. "Nobody else was doing that."

Later in the campaign, members of Mambisa worked phone banks for the Republicans, calling radio stations in "spontaneous" plugs for Bush. For this, Saavedra reports, they were paid about $60 per day by the campaign.

But Saavedra denies the Republicans paid him to bring people to the government center two weeks ago, explaining that he heard about it on the radio and contacted his associates. He does acknowledge, however, that he and the Republican Party jointly obtained from the Miami Police Department a permit to demonstrate outside county hall. On the big day, Wednesday, November 22, two dozen or so Mambisa recruits held forth downstairs by the side of the building. Vianello remained at home, manning the computer, television, and phones. Saavedra put her in touch by cell phone with one of the out-of-state Republican staffers on the scene, who urged the Cubans to bring more people with protest signs. The Republicans wanted Mambisa to find and display the famous pictures of the armed INS agent grabbing Elian.

Upstairs that Wednesday, as the Republicans loudly complained, Saavedra bumped into Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart, who, in a moment of patriotic zeal, saluted him military-style. Saavedra was impressed. He also was impressed with the out-of-town Republicans he met. "What I liked about the Republicans was that they demanded respect," he says. "They had a way of articulating themselves that was very good."

His knows his involvement with the Bush campaign opens him to criticism from his fellow exiles, who call him an Americanista. "They think they shouldn't involve themselves in politics, but we can't be marginalized," he insists. "We need to pick a party."

As if there were ever any doubt, the GOP was that party. After Wednesday's demonstration Saavedra's new Republican friends urged him to continue working with them by traveling to Broward. So on Friday about 40 Mambisas drove in a caravan to Fort Lauderdale for a demonstration in front of the courthouse. That night on the television news, Democrats accused the Republicans of being outside agitators. In response Republican observers, who were based at the Miami Wyndham Hotel on Biscayne Boulevard, promptly provided members of Mambisa with hats that read, "Mr. Gore, I'm from Florida," and urged them to show their drivers' licenses to the television cameras. (snip/...)

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/issues/2000-12-07/metro.ht...

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:56 AM
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8. the fruit of America's Cuba policy has been
to put Batista to the White House.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 11:32 AM
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23. Great post!
Much evidents.

Lincoln Diaz-Balart must be thrown out of office immedately, can't believe Florida and the democratic party on this one.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 10:54 AM
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17. An interesting glimpse of CANF clout in Miami
(snip) If Gov. George W. Bush wins the presidency because votes in Miami-Dade County were not recounted, consider it a payback for past favors granted Cuban terrorists by George Bush Sr.

When the Miami-Dade Canvassing Board reversed itself and voted to stop recounting ballots, at least one of the three members said his decision was influenced by the vehement protests of Radio Mambi.

This stridently anti-Communist station is an arm of the violently anti-Castro Cuban American National Foundation (CANF), founded in 1981 by a former CIA terrorist, Jorge Mas Canosa, with the encouragement (some say, at the behest) of the newly elected Reagan-Bush administration.
(snip/...)

http://www.pacificnews.org/jinn/stories/6.24/001207-mia...
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:57 AM
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9. Do we know that the tens of thousands purged
from the rolls have been restored? They weren't in time for 2002, I believe.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 03:35 AM
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10. is the national democratic party training their own activists there?
if the party has a structure such as this any candidate can use it come election time.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 03:48 AM
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11. We Need to be the Guardians of Democracy.
This is it Folks. It's time we've got to take it to the streets and educate people to not be intimitated.

Minorities have been told they need THREE forms of ID to vote - by repugs.

That is utterly sickening.

We need to directly confront these things.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:57 AM
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13. Would it not be helpful to send them a flyer or something with their
absentee ballots or whatever they receive from the DNC. You know something that clues them in to the LAWS that are supposed to be followed on election day? And a number that they can call to get assistance and report hanky panky the day of the election? Or how about encouraging each and every single democrat in the state to vote by absentee ballot?
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:09 PM
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26. We need to go INTO neighborhoods and give the info face to face.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 12:09 PM by alphafemale
We need to get real.

Flyers won't cut it.

They (repugs) intimidate people face to face that they can't vote if they are late on their bills.

That is so sick and twisted I get angry just thinking about it.

Getting out the vote-poll watching and stopping repug intimidation will be vital this coming election.
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BigLed Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 08:08 PM
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31. Right on
feet in the streets to get out the vote. get them registered now. Are Florida Dems doing anything on this. Who is following up on the purged felons who were not felons but had the same name etc. I've seen figures as high as 60,000 excluded black voters from this purge. That would certainly have changed the Florida results.

The wonks here at DU have been following this for three years but the average man/woman in the street hasn't. With a year to go it is time!!

It's posted above that the NAACP/ACLU? settlement included fixing the lists but is it being done? This alone makes Jebbies job to steal the election yet again 10X more difficult.

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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:48 AM
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12. Infiltration, anyone?
It would be quite helpful to the cause of free and fair elections is the ACLU, the Carter Center and other organizations were to enlist their own people in the "grass roots" effort. This would ensure that the homework assigned is not orchestrated fraud and intimidation.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 10:36 AM
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16. training storm troopers
and thugs.
here we go again -- set up for a theft in florida. how to misdirect voters in dem counties, lie to your face when you get to the polls and tell you, you can't vote -- it just won't stop! these fuckers know how to play for keeps -- i'll grant them that.
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 11:06 AM
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20. A picture is worth a thousand words


This angry mob, which successfully stopped the recount in Miami-Dade County during the 2000 election standoff, was portrayed by the media as an uprising by Florida voters.

Here are the identities of the protesters:

1. Tom Pyle, policy analyst, office of House Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R-Tex.).
2. Garry Malphrus, majority chief counsel and staff director, House Judiciary subcommittee on criminal justice.
3. Rory Cooper, political division staff member at the National Republican Congressional Committee.
4. Kevin Smith, former House Republican conference analyst and more recently of Voter.com.
5. Steven Brophy, former aide to Sen. Fred D. Thompson (R-Tenn.), now working at the consulting firm KPMG.
6. Matt Schlapp, former chief of staff for Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.), now on the Bush campaign staff in Austin.
7. Roger Morse, aide to Rep. Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.).
8. Duane Gibson, aide to Chairman Don Young (R-Alaska) of the House Resources Committee.
9. Chuck Royal, legislative assistant to Rep. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.).
10. Layna McConkey, former legislative assistant to former Rep. Jim Ross Lightfoot (R-Iowa) now at Steelman Health Strategies.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 11:20 AM
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22. Let Me Guess....Booing, Yelling, Letter Templets
and learning to spell "moron" correctly...
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:05 PM
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25. They Still Have Jeb To Steal Florida
current poll numbers of baby brother must have Florida's GOP & Data Base company working over time trying to figure a way to disenfranchise 200,000+ voters.

They know that 60,000 Muslim American's won't be voting for warmonger in 2004 and the people in Palm Springs, won't be making the same mistake twice.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:16 PM
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28. Trying to make a ballot that results in tens of thousands of Jews for Bush
I think they will make the ballot so confusing that mistakes end up as votes for Bush.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:20 PM
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29. Qualifications: White, Male, 6'6"+, 250+ lbs, strong voice, no scruples
Now hiring; great pay and benefits. (No visible personal ties to established Republican politicians preferred, judgement based on provability, not actuality.)

This time, they'll NEVER get out of the counting room
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:20 PM
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30. Go to
http://pledge.deanforamerica.com/winKeyState.php?stateN...
and write letters to Iowans explaining why you support Dean.

If you've already done that, head to http://pledge.deanforamerica.com/winKeyState.php?stateN... and explain to residents of New Hampshire why you're doing the same.

If you've already done that, head to http://pledge.deanforamerica.com/winState.php and help win your own state.

Let's teach these thugs the meaning of a grass roots campaign.
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