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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 05:07 PM
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Eight bodies found at Canada farm
8 April 2006

Eight bodies have been found in three vehicles in woodland on a farm in Canada, police say.

The grim discovery was made by a farmer on his land in Elgin County, Ontario.

Police are treating the incident as murder and say it is possible more bodies will be discovered. They said they would not speculate on the motive.

"We are not in a position to release any information about the persons, the motive or the cause of death," said Ontario Police Sergeant Dave Rektor.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4892360.stm

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 06:33 PM
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1. My wife thinks it's bikers executing rivals
This it their MO, drive somewhere in the country, do the deed.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 07:34 PM
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2. Might have some connection...
to this big biker funeral in Connecticut. The Angels are apparantly quite pissed off...


Justice Sought For Slain Biker
Condolences Come From Around The World For Hells Angels Leader

Many of the roughly 170 electronic guestbook condolences for the slain Hells Angels leader known as "Bear" were resolute in their wish that "justice be served."

From as far away as Croatia, Austria, Germany and Italy, many of the condolences expressed hope that Roger Mariani, who was gunned down Sunday on the Connecticut Turnpike in West Haven and who will be buried today following a 9 a.m. funeral, rest in peace.

Those attending services at the Parente-Lauro Funeral Home in Bridgeport and the burial at nearby Mountain Grove Cemetery also will notice a high-profile presence of local and state police and other law enforcement officers.
....
Some Hells Angels suspect members of the rival Outlaws motorcycle club are responsible for fatally shooting Mariani, 61, a member of the Hells Angels for more than three decades. Another biker, Paul Carroll, 39, of Bridgeport, was grazed by a bullet in the incident.

Hartford Courant


(just as a side note: I was looking for link to this story and read a couple--I can't believe some of the rather tasteless MSM stories about this dead criminal scumbag... LIKE this from http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/08/national/main1482964.shtml">CBS:

Friends said Mariani was a friendly man with a big heart. This morning's service drew hundreds of mourners, many of whom couldn't get into the packed funeral home.

"He was a true Angel if there ever was one," Cliff Edwards, a Stratford man who was a friend of Mariani, told the New Haven Register. "He will be missed. It didn’t have to happen this way."


Disgusting...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:39 PM
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7. "Friendly men with big hearts"
That could describe many serial child murderers.

The moment you get arrested and convicted for violence against another human being, you should lose that title.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 07:37 PM
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3. Interesting! It would make sense for sure, imo.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 10:32 PM
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5. There was a murder on our road 4 years ago
A Hell's Angel type killed a woman then set her and the van she was in afire. A man was found in a barn about a Km away. He had hanged himself.

And all of this on our remote rural road.

So, we're not entirely unfamiliar with such a scenario.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 07:50 PM
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4. my first thought was meth n/t
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NorthernSun Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:17 PM
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6. Meth?
Why meth?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:42 PM
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8. Very profitable. That's why.
And the pushers know it and can charge more.

Meth addicts are far more dangerous than even crack addicts.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:34 AM
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9. it's the stupid violent drug
and much seems to go wrong around it. Drug deal gone bad, type thing.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:57 AM
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10. wait a minute people! WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT BIKERS OR HELLS ANGELS?
This is some tin hat whacky shit!!!
Where are you all getting this crap???
??-bikers???


How the hell is this thread turning into a biker/Hell's Angels/ Meth thread?

Is anyone following the story at all?

There were 4 vehicles involved and a tow truck.
WHO the HELL said anything about BIKERS??

If you have any knowlege of "bikers" involved please post with a link-

Posting irrelevant self invented theories is just idiotic!
Especially when so many posters start jumping on the bandwagon adding their two cents in about stories of biker revenge.


and Canuckistanian-you say there was a Hells Angels "TYPE" involved in a murder years ago?
WTF is a Hells angels "TYPE"? you're either a member or you're not!
it is stereotyping and bigoted to label someone as a "type"-
Maybe there was also a murder there involving a "racist" type--or a "liberal" type- or a "rich conservative" type
Using the word "type is pretty broad brush and ignorant.

SO PEOPLE-
Can we try and stay on topic?
post relevant info with links or SHUT it on the conjectures OK !

look how this thread just started running wild--off on some tangent!
Someone had to say something!
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:06 AM
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11. That's the speculation...
in the Canadian press...



Multiple murder discovered in a rural Ont. field

CTV.ca News Staff

Eight men were found dead in a remote part of a southwest farmer's field, prompting Ontario Provincial Police to launch a homicide investigation.

The grisly discovery was made by a property owner near the village of Shedden, about 20 kilometres west of St. Thomas, at around
....
Gang related?

There are some rumours this incident could be related to motorcycle gangs. The Canadian Press reported Saturday that Elgin County has some motorcycle clubs operating in the area, including the Hells Angels, the Bandidos and the Loners.

"But when police are directly asked that question, they're simply not saying," said CTV's Denelle Balfour in Shedden, Ont. on Saturday night.

Asked why the police aren't providing more information, she said: "Police often don't reveal much about their investigations. This investigation is in its early stages."
CTV


These guys are really "tin hat whacky shit!!!--they put it in the headline!!!


Eight men dead in mass murder
in Ontario village known for biker activity

SHEDDEN, Ont. (CP) - Eight men were found dead Saturday inside four vehicles left on a tract of farmland now believed to be the site of Ontario's worst mass murder.

The quiet village of 800 about 30 kilometres southwest of London near St. Thomas is known as Ontario's rhubarb capital, but also has a history of biker activity, raising speculation among some that the grisly scene had links to the underworld.

Shocked residents were in search of answers, although police were not disclosing many details about the bizarre crime scene.

They refused to make any link to organized crime or confirm reports that each of the men had been shot to death.
Canada.com


Now can we have our ball back, Mr. Grumpy ;-)
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 01:15 PM
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12. thqat's the ONLY link posted--thanks--but speculation is not news
at least you see why it's important to name sources or post links

otherwise it looks like "peersonal" speculation
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:32 PM
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16. Aye Aye Cap'n Freedom
Edited on Sun Apr-09-06 03:37 PM by MrPrax

Standing On Guard To Protect America's Internet ChatRooms
(from specious rumour and innuendo)

(edited-Now! With 55% MORE Bile-Goodness)
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 02:39 AM
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19. and right there back at cha !-----> villians beware!!!!!!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 07:23 PM
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17. Who ever said something about Bikers apparently was right
Autopsies Awaited on 8 Slain in Canada

April 9, 2006

TORONTO - Canadian police investigating the deaths of eight men found stuffed inside abandoned vehicles in a wooded field descended on a farmhouse a few miles down the road on Sunday.

Police refused to discuss what was happening beyond the roadblock they had set up around the farmhouse, about three miles from where the bodies were found inside four vehicles deserted in a farmer's field Saturday morning. The farm in Shedden, Ontario, is about 90 miles northeast of Detroit.

A former member of the Bandidos motorcycle gang said he had talked to current members in the area who recognized the vehicles from the media coverage.

"I can tell you that it's Bandidos that got killed," said Edward Winterhalder, who left the gang in 2003 and wrote "Out in Bad Standings," a book on his time inside the gang.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060410/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bodies_found;_ylt=A9FJqbAFpTlEia4ATQms0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 02:41 AM
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20. whell doh!!--maybe they could have been so kind as to post a source eh?
n/t
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 01:35 PM
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13. It's just about 20 to 30 miles south of where I live!
Updates:
a)All the victims knew each other.
b)All of them were from Toronto area.
c)All the bodies have been sent to Toronto for autopsies that will happen tomorrow
d)The neighbours in the quiet area of Sheddon are very disturbed despite policemen telling them that it's an isolated incident and that these neighbours are not in danger.
e)This is the worst massacre in Southwestern Ontario ever since the Donnelly murders in Lucan back in the 1800's.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 08:49 PM
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18. That's scary!
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 01:36 PM
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14. Sounds like the final scene in the movie "Casino"
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 01:40 PM
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15. There's a lot of holes in that desert.
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