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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:42 AM
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Cheney: Iraq Not in Midst of Civil War
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-US-Iraq.htm...

March 19, 2006
Cheney: Iraq Not in Midst of Civil War
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 11:09 a.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday that Iraq is not in the midst of a civil war, but instead described the violence as a desperate tactic by terrorists in the country to stop the move to democracy.

''What we've seen is a serious effort by them to foment a civil war,'' Cheney said in an interview on ''Face the Nation'' on CBS on the third anniversary of the U.S. invasion of Iraq. ''But I don't think they've been successful.''

Cheney said he disagrees with Iraq's former interim prime minister, Ayad Allawi, who said in an interview Sunday that the increasing attacks across his country can only be described as a civil war.

..more at link...

:grr: what is Dick drinking....
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:44 AM
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1. kool-aid....
eom
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:06 PM
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25. IT WILL END THIS WAY
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pdurod1 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:38 AM
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41. I'm a army veteran and I predicted this on another military blog...
and I apologize to you(saigon68) for overreacting a couple months ago. The others on this blog split off called me "unpatriotic" and "anti-american" and started their own blog and are starting to come back. That fricken hurts... It sometimes sucks to be a vet. I can only imagine what it was like in '68.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:58 PM
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54. thank you for your service, pdruod1 and saigon68
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andino Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:45 AM
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2. He must still be drunk from a hunting trip,,,
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:47 AM
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3. Has anyone told him that terrorists are often involved in or
even start civil wars? I resent that this administration having no respect for our collective intelligence. They must really think we are a nation of fools to publicly make statments like that. I wish we had a real press with real journalists like Eward Murrow to pull these asses down a peg or two.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:47 AM
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4. The man is delusional. Besides, who cares what this Dick says anymore? n/
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:33 AM
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16. No, he just realizes how stupid republican voters are.
Plus he knows the corporate whore media is on his side.

Cheney and his corrupt cabal will continue to rob our country right up to the last minute.

Cheney will say everything is rosy in Iraq because Halliburton, etc., are raking in billions of taxpayer dollars.

Plus, controlling Iraqi oil means bigger profits for the oil companies.

Cheney is hardly delusional. He will be living like a king for the rest of his miserable life.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:11 PM
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38. obviousely he still has authority
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:48 AM
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5. If this asshole
had ever, even once, told the truth on anything, his disagreement with Allawi's statemenr that 50 to 60 Iraqis being killed was civil war would be more credible.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:48 AM
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6. Same ole, same ole; they think if they repeat their talking points
often enough, we'll believe it.
I'm glad to see people like Ayad Allawi speaking the real truth, and who are you going to believe, a guy speaking from his bunker or a man who's living it?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:11 PM
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39. but it works!
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:47 AM
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42. Not like it used to
And the thing is, once the "blinders" come off people, listening to this BS only makes them angry. And the more and more BushCo shovels it out, the angrier and angrier the people get.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:50 AM
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7. I could actually see
a small, brown trickle running down his chin from the BULLSHIT he was spewing.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:51 AM
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8. as your puppet likes to say....

" who CARES what you think? "
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:51 AM
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9. The the insurgency is in its last throes. We've got them on the run.
These are last acts of a few desperate rejectionists.
There is no civil war in Iraq.

Thank you Baghdad Dick! :sarcasm:
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mallard Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 06:48 PM
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34. Re: acts including
..instituting a torture policy that's only added to those civil war conditions - now being described by former (US approved) PM Allawi.

Hope you're right about the last acts part, but they won't be graceful about it.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:57 AM
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10. And this completely contradicts what Ayad Allawi
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:07 AM
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11. Up is down! Black is white! Left is right!
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:09 AM
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12. If it quacks like a duck ...Cheney will shoot it!
If it ain't a civil war or the beginnings of one it's a pretty damn good simulation.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:14 AM
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13. What we are witnessing
Are the last throes of Dead-Eye Dick Cheney.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:26 AM
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14. what`s is his poll numbers?
in the teens? uncle dickie -no one cares about what you say anymore.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:37 AM
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17. dick numbers will soon be the size of his rodney at 5%
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:32 AM
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15. are they still in the last throes Dick?
Anyone know how many have been killed US/Iraq combined since he made that statement?
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:37 AM
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18. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. nt
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 05:31 PM
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31. and we are in the last throws of the insurgency.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:44 AM
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19. Allawi: "If this is not civil war, then God knows what civil war is"...


MEANWHILE...



:evilgrin:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:01 PM
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20. The River of Denial runs deep and wide with these fanatics. ... eom
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:10 PM
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21. We should believe an "experienced" hunter that shoots a buddy in the face
.
.
.

WHY?? :shrug:

and in control of USA's Military . . . ?????

Scary indeed

I guess us Canuks should just catch some foxes and put them right in our chicken coops -

Cuz that's what y'all done down there by getting that Bush Mob to run your country.

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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:11 PM
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22. i could hardly stomach watching FTN this morning, and immediately
let schieffer know that we didn't appreciate his lapdog journalism. i about heaved when they shared snickers.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:50 PM
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23. Or this --- Cheney: Iraq not in civil war, predicts success (Reuters)
(When ask if he will be visiting Iraq in the near future, he said, "Hell no! It's too dangerous over there, my heart couldn't take it..." No, just kidding, I made that up)

Cheney: Iraq not in civil war, predicts success


Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:49 PM ET10

By Tabassum Zakaria

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney on Sunday said Iraq had not fallen into civil war despite extremist attempts to foment one, and warned that allowing the insurgents to succeed would leave the country a failed state.

Three years after the U.S. invasion, bombings, killings and kidnappings continue the unabated violence in Iraq. Former Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi said on BBC television that Iraq was nearing the "point of no return" and had already plunged into sectarian civil war.

Cheney said "terrorists" like Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, and others were trying to stop the formation of a democratically elected government in Iraq by violence such as the bombing of the Golden Mosque in Samarra on February 22, one of the holiest Shi'ite sites.

"What we've seen is a serious effort by them to foment civil war, but I don't think they've been successful," Cheney said on CBS television's "Face the Nation." Increasing public discontent over the Iraq war in which more than 2,300 American troops have died has helped push President George W. Bush's approval ratings to the lowest of his presidency.

(more at link below)

<http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=top... >
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:58 PM
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24. ''But I don't think they've been successful.'' Meaning: I'm clueless
and I don't care who knows it b/c I'm a rich bastard who can shoot anyone I want and no one can touch me.
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:10 PM
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26. Iraq: Cheney's head not up own ass.
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 02:11 PM by Itchinjim
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:14 PM
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27. "last throes" Version 2
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 02:27 AM
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44. Yes, just those pesky "dead end-ers"
who hate America for its freedom.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 05:06 PM
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28. ah its not a civil war... its an "effort to foment a civil war"
thanks for the clarification - VP last throes.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 05:08 PM
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29. Think of the times
Dick has made a statement with "I believe" "I think" "If you will." "Greeted as liberators" comes to mind immediately but there are many statements that Dick seems to pull from his ass only to state them as though they are AP bulletins or the word of God - take your pick. "I think" is just that - I think, I don't KNOW.
Why is this treated as though it has any validity when he has been so monumentally wrong on so many occasions? Unless he's holding a document signed by God that says he's on the money we should all ignore everything that comes from his crooked slash of a mouth.

:grr:
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 05:09 PM
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30. All you need to know about Dick......

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/kept_promises.html


Well if anyone should know about desperate tactics taken to stop democracy........However, in the reality that most of the world lives in, what's occurring in Iraq right now can ONLY be described as a civil war.....The very reason the Brighter Bush beat a hasty retreat from Baghdad oh so many years ago.

Thank God the insurgency is in its last throes. Yup, we should be out of there in 10 or 12 years......Now if all American's will just pony up $10,000, why we'll get this little misunderstanding paid for and off the books.



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veracity Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 05:57 PM
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32. Even More About Dick!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 06:05 PM
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33. He's wearing his puppet's rose-colored glasses
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 07:01 PM
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35. Cheney didn't know the difference between a lawyer and a quail
How could he recognize a civil war?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 07:20 PM
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36. No VP in American History has been Impeached.
History must be made by Impeaching Cheney.

He will be easier to Impeach than the Sock Puppet because only 18% of Americans still support this criminal.

Vice President Cheney must be Impeached First

One of the main reasons the Bush Regime went to a war in Iraq,was because the Democratic Party was neutralized, by the belief that Cheney had the evidence, that Iraq was getting nuclear weapons. Cheney knew there were no such nuclear weapons. Cheney knew the story about Niger 'yellow cake' going to Iraq was a fraud. And yet he pushed that argument, in order to convince the Congress to to allow the war to go ahead."

Yet, now that (WMDs) in Iraq to be a fraud, those Democrats who are upset are not targetting Cheney, but going after President Bush instead. .


The immediate basis for the impeachment of VP Cheney is the obstruction of justice and coverup carried out by Cheney in the case of the leak of Valerie Plame and exposing and destroying the covert operation of Brewster Jennings, which V. Plame was in charge of. Dick Cheney, acted to cover up and obstruct justice in the search to unearth and prosecute the guilty parties.

The Plame case is not the only example of misconduct by Cheney that requires the Congress impeach him. Cheney has committed a fraud against the nation with his lies on Iraq, and also demonstrated blatant corruption in permitting the multi-billion-dollar ripoffs by his former company Halliburton. The evidence is overwhelming.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:16 PM
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37. Cheney the dick says NO; former PM of Iraq Allawi says hell yes.
Gee, who would know better...decisions, decisions...

"There is no doubt..."

"...cakewalk..."

"...greeted as liberators..."
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hibbing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:59 PM
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40. thanks Bob..

The masters of war are in full force.

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

Bob Dylan "Masters of War"
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 01:34 AM
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43. Iraqi women have a different perspective
From Democracy Now!'s interview with two of the Iraqi women who came to the US earlier this month to talk about what's really happening over there:

AMY GOODMAN: We continue with our guests today. We are joined by Faiza Al-Araji, who is a civil engineer, who has just flown in from Amman, lived in Iraq until this past summer when her son was kidnapped. We are also joined by Eman Ahmad Khamas, who is a journalist, translator and activist, a member of the Womens Will organization. We welcome you both. I asked you during the break, Faiza, are you Sunni or Shia?

FAIZA AL-ARAJI: I don't like this question. I'm Iraqi. And I'm insisting I am Iraqi. I don't want to use these new titles, have been entered Iraq after Bremer. When he entered Iraq he put this division for the Iraqi people. And we refuse it.

AMY GOODMAN: What do you mean its just been introduced? I mean, there is a sense in the media in this country that this is age-old sectarian, almost tribal hatred.

FAIZA AL-ARAJI: Oh, my God. Yeah, they are trying to tell you another story. The reality is there. We are brothers and sisters. We are Muslim, my dear. This is the identity of the nation. We are Muslim. But they are trying to divide the people, to go to the sub-identity, to make a cause of fighting or to provoke the people against each other. And we refuse it.

AMY GOODMAN: Eman?

EMAN AHMAD KHAMAS: Well, the reality is that it never happened in the history of Iraq for thousands, six thousands of years. It never happened, a civil war or these kind of distinctions. It is true that there are in Iraq, there are Kurds, there are Arabs and Sunnis and Shia and the Christians and many other minor religions and groups. But it never happened that we fight each other. No. At all.

FAIZA AL-ARAJI: And a thing I said yesterday, in the history there is fighting between the regime and the Kurds or the regime against the Shia. But it doesn't mean it is civil war. It is something between, you know, for political reasons. But the media here is investing these actions to tell you another kind of stories.
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 02:51 AM
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45. All I have to say is...
Edited on Mon Mar-20-06 02:53 AM by darkism
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 06:11 AM
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46. Just who in loving(?) in the bubble??
Edited on Mon Mar-20-06 06:12 AM by Dont_Bogart_the_Pret









Peace

Proud Members of Melonhawg Society

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 06:52 AM
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47. Does That Mean That Cheney's Pals Are Winning?
If they weren't I'm sure we'd hear all about the horrible civil war and how we have to do something about it. Maybe he just placed a large bet on the outcome, though.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:55 AM
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48. The asswipe is totally delusional
I watched the whole thing with my mouth wide open. Schieffer was clearly thinking, "this guy is a heartbeat from the presidency?" It's still just a few dead-enders, eh, you piece of lying nazi shit?
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:56 AM
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49. Just like the insurgency is in it's "last throes"
Asshole :grr:
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:23 PM
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50. Cheney: Shooting Lawyers Really a Sign of Respect.

ignorance of lawyer culture spawning criticism, etc.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:27 PM
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51. It's NOT a Civil War - So Stop Saying That!
Channeling Bob Boudelang again, I presume...
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:54 PM
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53. okay, let's all sing--all together now
(Cheney with a big evil grin on his face) Okay, mon everything going all right in Iraq--let's all sing "Don't worry, be happy"--- now come on all you American boys and girls sing with me -- "Don't worry, be happy." Yes, yes Uncle Dick gonna make it all better now--Iraq is doing just fine--"don't worry, be happy"!!!!!! That's why I got my little bunker all ready because "don't worry, be happy." Now, now you know those Iraqi people are happy people, singing and dancing--they love us so much they throw flowers at our feet, so don't worry and be happy!!!! Now drink down Uncle Dick's special Kool-aid boy and girls and you too, can sing "don't worry and be happy"!!!!!! :spray:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:39 PM
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52. God can he say that with a straight face?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 06:09 PM
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55. It's not civil war. The Iraqis are just killing each other a lot.
Not the same thing. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :wow:
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