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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:17 PM
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Bush says diplomacy way to tackle Iran
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush on Friday called Iran a "grave national security concern," but said he sought a diplomatic way to cap its nuclear goals.

The U.N. Security Council, which has the power to impose sanctions, will tackle Iran's case early next week after the U.N. nuclear watchdog sent it a report this week saying it could not verify that Iran's atomic activities were purely peaceful.

Bush said U.S. concerns were the result of Iran's stated desire to destroy Israel and Washington's belief that Tehran wants to build nuclear bombs -- something the Iranians deny.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060310/ts_nm/nuclear_iran_...
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:19 PM
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1. Well he has to go on record as saying this, so he can later say he tried
what b.s.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:29 PM
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6. Just like Iraq
"Disarm or we'll attack." A logical fallacy was the extent of so-called diplomacy.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:47 PM
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11. Yes, I agree. I also remember.
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 04:49 PM by electron_blue
You know, i have no special training in sociology or psychology, and believe me, I'm no genius with people. I feel rather inept. But why is it that I can see through this "set up" and most of America can't?

Perhaps it was the extensive training during my marriage with lie-detecting and motive-detecting analysis that got me to spot b.s. from a mile away.... In which case, maybe I do have special training, LOL.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:19 PM
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2. Flip Flop Flip Flop....
Can't have it both ways * eorgie....Condi, Rummy, Bolton and McFellon are saying there will be dire consequences for Iran..

:rofl:
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:20 PM
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3. Well, he better tell Condi & Bolton to STFU!
Diplomacy, my ass!

Does the chimp even know what the word means?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:22 PM
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4. What changed Georgie? n/t
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:23 PM
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5. Translation - "I've tapped out our military." n/t
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:35 PM
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7. he lies with such ease its truly sad.
"an issue of grave national security concern" yeah, sure. and he's already admitted, on at least two occasions, to having no interesting diplomacy other than as part of a march to war. just yesterday some us diplomat mentioned military action too.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:37 PM
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8. his "misadministration"
is no more capable of diplomacy than I am of polka dancing.

that's a long shot. truly.

Yikes. If they bomb Iran we are in so much trouble I can't even imagine it.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:39 PM
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9. Bush, STFU! (nt)
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:39 PM
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10. I, for one, get a little nervous when Bush want to use diplomacy.
That's the same thing he said about Iraq.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:48 PM
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12. Gunboat diplomacy?
Part of the reason we want our ships in the U.A.E. port.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:50 PM
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13. So get Iran on the phone already, Mr. Prez! Why wait? n/t
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:20 PM
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14. CONPLAN 8022 -02 - classified Bush directive + mini nukes..
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 05:22 PM by phoebe
A high-risk game of nuclear chicken
By F William Engdahl

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HA31Ak02.html

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The neo-conservatives, although slightly lower profile in the second Bush administration, are every bit as active, especially through Cheney's office. They want a preemptive bombing strike on Iran's nuclear sites. But whatever Cheney's office may be doing, officially, the Bush administration is pursuing a markedly different approach than it did in 2003, when its diplomacy was aimed at lining up allies for a war. This time, US diplomats are seeking an international consensus on how to proceed, or at least cultivating the impression of that.

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Conplan 8022
In January 2003, Bush signed a classified presidential directive, Conplan 8022-02. This is a war plan different from all prior in that it posits "no ground troops". It was specifically drafted to deal with "imminent" threats from states such as North Korea and Iran.

Unlike the warplan for Iraq, a conventional one, which required coordinated preparation of air, ground and sea forces before it could be launched, a process of months, even years, Conplan 8022 called for a highly concentrated strike combining bombing with electronic warfare and cyberattacks to cripple an opponent's response-cutting electricity in the country, jamming communications and hacking computer networks.

Conplan 8022 explicitly includes a nuclear option, specially configured earth-penetrating "mini" nukes to hit underground sites such as Iran's. Last summer, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld approved a top secret "Interim Global Strike Alert Order" directing around-the-clock military readiness to be directed by the Omaha-based Strategic Command (Stratcom), according to a report in the May 15 Washington Post.

Previously, ominously enough, Stratcom oversaw only the US nuclear forces. In January 2003, Bush signed on to a definition of "full spectrum global strike", which included precision nuclear as well as conventional bombs, and space warfare. This was a follow-up to the president's September 2002 National Security Strategy, which laid out as US strategic doctrine a policy of "preemptive" wars.

The burning question is whether, with plunging popularity polls, a coming national election, scandals and loss of influence, the Bush White House might "think the unthinkable" and order a nuclear preemptive global strike on Iran before the November elections, perhaps early after the March 28 Israeli elections.

Entire (excellent) article gives perspective on EU/Chinese/Russian/Israeli relations to ongoing Iranian situation
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:29 PM
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15. Cough...cough
:rofl: Sure, he says one thing while Condy and Cheney up the rhetoric - sorta reminds me of the way he ran his last political campaign...
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