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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:39 AM
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Sen. Leahy Gets Canadian Border Fence Idea Scrapped
From the Caledonian-Record, St Johnsbury, VT: http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/top_news/story/9e...

DERBY LINE, VERMONT
The U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee has eliminated what U.S. Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont called a "cockamamie" plan to consider building a fence or wall along the U.S.-Canadian border.

Leahy said Thursday the proposal to study such a barrier along the world's longest unguarded border was stripped from pending U.S. Homeland Security legislation by U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., at the request of Leahy and others.

Leahy said he is still working to stop another regulation that Vermont business people say will practically shut down commerce with Canada. At the end of next year, Homeland Security will require Americans and legal immigrants traveling by land to Canada to have a special ID card or a passport to get back into the U.S.


I guess they're going to have to find another way to keep us in.

Redstone
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:42 AM
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1. "a "cockamamie" plan"---gosh, i used to hear this word a lot. Luv it!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:36 PM
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14. given this administration, I think the word will make a comeback!
It's the best description for some of the stuff they've been coming up with!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:43 AM
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2. I sure hope they get the ID thing scrapped
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 09:44 AM by leftchick
that is so fucked up. How about they work on securing the ports first. And quit fucking spying on peace groups and animal rights groups. What a fucking waste of our money! :argh:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:44 AM
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5. I believe the National ID by Stensenbrenner is already in play isn't it?
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 11:38 AM
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31. Agreed....
They steal and waste our tax payer money and they don't care about what's coming into the Ports...I swear these "fences" are intended to keep in, not keep out....

:hi:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:43 AM
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3. How are we going to keep all those dangerous prescription drugs out?
Hmm?

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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:44 AM
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4. This is so retarded.
What about those of us who live in states that have more roads going to Canada than into the US? Any locking down of the US/Canada border will *DEVATSTATE* the Maine economy!
:mad:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:50 AM
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6. Amusingly enough
Derby Line, the town the story was posted from, has a wonderful old Opera House that's half in Canada and half in the US. The border is a painted line IN the theatre. Hard to imagine a wall there.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 06:15 PM
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20. I imagine a nice fence along the Niagara River and all of the Great Lakes
would be sooooo effective and benificial.

I'm sure all those folks along the border will welcome this with open arms.

Geesh - it's not a barren desert wasteland like Texas, Arizon, New Mexico Borders!
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:00 AM
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7. What no fence?
You mean Americans can just run around loose--jeez at least consider a leash law...
:evilgrin:

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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:02 AM
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8. Do the backers of the fence actually know anything about the Cdn border?
There is no way in hell that we could build a fence along that border, never mind actually maintain or patrol it. What are we going to do with the Great Lakes build a nice little floating fence?

As though we actually have any money left to spend on something as stupid as this. We're bleeding money so fast I'm really starting to worry that we'll never be able to get it under control. And the republicans claim the title conservatism, what a bunch of fuck-ups, at every level of Government.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:34 PM
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13. maybe it's Georgie's new job creation plan!
You know -- to make up for the ones being outsourced to India. He can just hire a bunch of "border guards" to stand (or sit in a rowboat) every 50 feet or so along the US-Canadian border. A couple of million new jobs, bingo!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:13 PM
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17. Outsource it to the Chinese. They built the Great Wall of China.
What a ridiculous waste of money and infringement of rights that would be. Good for Leahy.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 06:31 PM
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21. I smell another great opportuniy for - HALLIBURTON!
They are the ONLY company "capable" of doing such a thing, after all, right?!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 06:38 PM
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24. They are the only company in the U.S.A.
Seems that way. Everytime the government wants to part with a lot of money, they throw it in Halliburton's direction.

Even if Halliburton was an honest company (stretch your imagination), it just wouldn't be right to give every contract to the same company.

Something about putting all your eggs in one basket.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:08 AM
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9. Thank God..
for a minute, I thought they would block the exits....
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:28 AM
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10. Well, I don't think we can be TOO careful...
Some of those Canadians speak French you know...
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:27 AM
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11. TEAR DOWN THE WALL!!!
sorry, couldn't resist
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:00 PM
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12. I see no such outrage at the proposed Southern wall...
please explain.... :wtf:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:41 PM
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15. Exactly. Let's spell it out: R as in Repuke, A as in asshat, C... n/t
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 12:59 PM by UTUSN
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:15 PM
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18. Is a proposal for a southern wall
actually being submitted in Congress?

If so, it's just as ridiculous as the idea for a Canadian wall.
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Robeysays Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:23 PM
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32. i haven't heard any thing n/t
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:01 PM
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19. Hey, I'm outraged at the idea of ANY wall. I bet Leahy is, too.
Redstone
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 06:33 PM
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22. Well - the topic of this thread is the NORTHERN wall.
I'm just as upset at the idea of a SOUTHERN wall, too.

They're going about this ass backwards, as usual.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 06:34 PM
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23. The Southern Locals Want Their Border Closed
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 06:35 PM by Demeter
But we cosmopolitan Northerners know that our neighbor is our friend, and we want to be able to cross over if George manages to start the Apocalypse in the US.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:48 PM
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16. my freeper mother thought this was a good idea!
:cry:
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Canuck55 Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 06:57 PM
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25. Halliburton build fences now or something?
"Homeland Security was asked to look at the feasibility of barriers on the Canadian border and on the nation's shorelines."

------

Shorelines? I suppose it will cut down on the increasing number of terrorists swimming across the Atlantic and Pacific or something. But what the hell, throw a couple billion at this and hope bin Laden and his pals haven't discovered boltcutters yet.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:00 PM
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26. In other words they are going to stop and check everyone
Homeland Security will require Americans and legal immigrants traveling by land to Canada to have a special ID card or a passport to get back into the U.S.

It's more of the big brother thing.

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juliana24 Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 03:35 AM
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27. U.S. Sen. Patrick Leahy can go "F" himself.
We need bridges not borders!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 03:56 AM
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28. Ummm...
I'm confused.

What is your problem with what Leahy did?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:11 AM
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29. Thank you, Senator Leahy.
I might need to get out.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:21 AM
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30. Plus, a fence would just complicate the future "liberation"
of the Alberta oil sands.
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