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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:18 PM
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White House Rejects Special Counsel
WASHINGTON - The White House on Monday rejected the call by several House Democrats for a special counsel to investigate the Bush administration's eavesdropping program.ADVERTISEMENT

"I think that where these Democrats who are calling for this ought to spend their time is on what was the source of the unauthorized disclosure of this vital, incredible program in the war on terrorism," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "I really don't think there is any basis for a special counsel. ... But the fact that this information was disclosed about the existence of this program has given the enemy some of our playbook."

In a letter released Monday, 18 House Democrats told Bush that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should appoint a special counsel. They said the surveillance of terrorists must be done within the bounds of U.S. law, but complained that their efforts to get answers to legal and factual questions about the program have been stymied — "generally based on the feeblest of excuses."

"If the effort to prevent vigorous and appropriate investigation succeeds, we fear the inexorable conclusion will be that these executive branch agencies hold themselves above the law and accountable to no one," wrote the lawmakers, led by Rep. Zoe Lofgren (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., a member of the Judiciary and Homeland Security committees.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060227/ap_on_go_pr_wh/eavesdropping
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:22 PM
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1. Terror! Terror! Terror!
Snotty hasn't figured out what we have-Bushco are the real terrorists.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:25 PM
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2. This one statement says it all:
"If the effort to prevent vigorous and appropriate investigation succeeds, we fear the inexorable conclusion will be that these executive branch agencies hold themselves above the law and accountable to no one..."


So what's the next step?
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:26 PM
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3. Incredible...
"...But the fact that this information was disclosed about the existence of this program has given the enemy some of our playbook." Yeah. The enemy here being the American people...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:26 PM
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4. what a snobby reply!



......"I think that where these Democrats who are calling for this ought to spend their time is on what was the source of the unauthorized disclosure of this vital, incredible program in the war on terrorism," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "I really don't think there is any basis for a special counsel. ... But the fact that this information was disclosed about the existence of this program has given the enemy some of our playbook."
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:57 PM
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13. Hey snotty, anyone can buy your shitty playbook
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 03:00 PM by jimshoes
you can even download it. It's called 1984.

Edit:
Have to just say the actual book 1984 is fantastic and well worth reading.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:27 PM
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17. Unfortunately, this Admin thinks "1984" is the instruction manual, not a
...WARNING!!!!!

Unbelievable.... :scared:
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:27 PM
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5. WTF?
Paraphrasing Scotty: "Don't try to determine if what we were doing is illegal and unconstitutional, but rather spend your time and the taxpayer's money trying to find out who snitched!"


:spank: :freak: :puke: :spank: :freak: :puke:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:34 PM
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6. SURPRIZE! SURPRIZE! SURPRIZE!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:50 PM
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10. The Administration is full of 'Gomers' n/t
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:35 PM
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7. blame the messenger, blame the victim, blame anybody
just get the fuck away from us - we are perfect and untouchable. Thanks, Snotty.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:45 PM
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8. If they've got nothing ILLEGAL to hide, they'd appoint special counsel.
I think it's safe to assume they've done some fairly egregious illegal shit. Don't you?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:57 PM
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23. Yes, I think that's fair to say.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:48 PM
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9. Scotty sure is getting snippity of late.
Being backed into a corner sure must be uncomfortable. :)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:55 PM
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11. They shit in a bucket and call it strategy.
Poor Stupid Scottie, what he said is so ineffectual and enfeeble.

"I think that where these Democrats who are calling for this ought to spend their time is on what was the source of the unauthorized disclosure of this vital, incredible program in the war on terrorism,"

Yeah Scott, that's why they want to investigate your BOSS, Cheney said he authorized the information to be leaked so there is our first suspect.

"I really don't think there is any basis for a special counsel. ... But the fact that this information was disclosed about the existence of this program has given the enemy some of our playbook."

Playbook? So you agree that Dick Cheney is helping our enemy? Thanks for agreeing Stupid Scottie.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:56 PM
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12. surprise...
not
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:13 PM
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14. People who haven't done anything wrong have nothing to hide
Sooooo, what are you and your bosses hiding, Mr. McClellan?
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drfresh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:19 PM
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15. HAHAHA
That's a good one, gratuitous.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:21 PM
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16. I am sick to death of these rat bastards!
When is it going to sink in with the rest of America?

Peace.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:29 PM
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18. "this vital, incredible program in the war on terrorism"
Yeah, its "VITAL" to the Bush administration conducting their illegal info gathering and "INCREDIBLE" that they are able to get away with it...

:grr:
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:12 PM
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26. Indeed. It certainly is NOT vital in...
the efforts to defeat terrorists, and we need to keep hammering this home.

This program (NSA wiretapping program) has not turned up a single lead or other piece of evidence that the FBI didn't already have from (in the FBI's own words)"more reliable sources." It is only VITAL that it be protected from EXAMINATION by anyone outside the NSA or BFEE!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:31 PM
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19. I don't think it's up to the White House. It's a DOJ call.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:51 PM
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20. Oh you disgusting piece of crap!
"I think that where these Democrats who are calling for this ought to spend their time is on what was the source of the unauthorized disclosure of this vital, incredible program in the war on terrorism," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.



Where was this sentiment at when we were trying to figure out who outted a CIA agent you scum? You filthy f***ing piece of crap!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:53 PM
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21. I'm shocked. Shocked I tell ya.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:56 PM
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22. Holy crap, that sounds alot like the Diebold tactic in CA.
"I think that where these Democrats who are calling for this ought to spend their time is on what was the source of the unauthorized disclosure of this vital, incredible program in the war on terrorism," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "I really don't think there is any basis for a special counsel. ... But the fact that this information was disclosed about the existence of this program has given the enemy some of our playbook."

It's not the crime that's the problem. The guy who talked about it is the problem. How do we stop this shit?

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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:04 PM
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24. Ignore the man behind the curtain...
:eyes:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:08 PM
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25. DUH!!!
Do the police "ask the suspect's permission" to investigate a crime?

This is a done deal unless the press steps up the pressure and forces the WH to take the dare..

Clinton fell into that trap because he thought he would get a fair shake.. *² has more devious advisors who would never let him appoint a special counsel.

Even if they did, it wouldn't amount to much..he would just appoint a pal.. "Hey, let's appoint henry Kissinger or James baker"
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:40 PM
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31. Fishing is something the whole family can truly enjoy
When the water is dark you sense it with a sense long unused

Broader Security Review....



I'm sure someone can come up with a plan.

:hi: SoCalDem
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:14 PM
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27. Listen up SICK BASTARDS!!!
Freedom of the press means that people can report your damn illegal, criminal activities. The "leaker" is a hero IMHO.

Now if only the MSM would care and not sit on the story for a year!
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:16 PM
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28. Anyone have the list of 18?
Thanks
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:29 PM
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29. Why only 18?
Seems like we should have many more signatures on that.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:32 PM
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30. That is one of the reasons things like this never get anywhere.
I just wanted to see who the 18 signers were. I expect them to be the usual crowd that stands up in these situations. I was wondering if there were any "new" faces.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 05:22 PM
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32. Kick
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:07 PM
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33. could snotty scotty be more whiney?
"I really don't think there is any basis for a special counsel. ... But the fact that this information was disclosed about the existence of this program has given the enemy some of our playbook."

he knows they didn't just spy on suspected al qaeda connections.
but it is rovian to accuse the innocent of their wrong doing.

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