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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:41 AM
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Cheney ignored safe hunting procedures(Charlotte Observer)
Cheney ignored safe hunting procedures

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/opinion/13866143.htm

Bird hunters should use dogs and fewer guns -- and leave car behind
SCOTT DENHAM
Special to the Observer


Why was the hunter, Harry Whittington, looking for a downed bird? Were there no dogs? A quail hunt without a dog? Absurd. If there were dogs, why not have them go after the dead bird?----


One of the cardinal rules of any bird hunt: Don't shoot low birds. Why? It is more difficult to see birds against the ground than against the sky. It is possible that something besides a bird might be on the ground, and thus in the way; generally this would be the dog---

One report I read stated that Cheney shot Whittington at 5:15 p.m. on Saturday -- way too late to be hunting quail. Good hunters hunt early in the day, when the light is good, the birds are active, and the dogs are fresh. One should generally not be out for quail this late in the day.---]
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:51 AM
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1. republicans ignoring procedures
LOL :o
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:03 AM
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2. caligirl, thank you for posting this article.
to this point, "Hunting from a car is, for able-bodied hunters at least, completely antithetical to honest, ethical hunting."... i say, NOTHING NEW HERE ABOUT CHENEY one of the most UNethical beings in the universe...



and to this other point,


"One of the cardinal rules of any bird hunt: Don't shoot low birds. Why? It is more difficult to see birds against the ground than against the sky. It is possible that something besides a bird might be on the ground, and thus in the way; generally this would be the dog. Though it should never happen, a careless, selfish hunter might even swing through with his shotgun and find another hunter in the line of fire, but only if he were following a low bird (though most dedicated bird dog owners would agree it's better to shoot a hunting partner than a good dog!). This happened when Vice President Cheney shot his partner on Saturday evening."

DOES CHENEY EVER CARE ABOUT RULES, OR DOES HE CARE MORE ABOUT ALWAYS BREAKING THE RULES!!!!!!!!

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:13 AM
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3. Cheney bombed big time! Anyone who gives money to listen to
Cheney's wisdom as a man of knowledge is a complete nit-wit, that is in love with shock and awe and devastating bombs.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:23 AM
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4. This Gets The "Duh of the Day" Award
Generally, when you shoot a 78 year old man in the face, some safe hunting procedures have been ignored... !
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:37 AM
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5. Makes sense to me, and I don't hunt
My son-in-law does, however, and says this shooting was definitely a case of carelessness and disregard for hunting procedures. Personally, I think Cheney just likes to kill things.

By the way,caligirl, is that a Schnauzer?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:57 AM
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16. yes, its a giant schnauzer, his cousin just won best of opposite
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 12:13 PM by caligirl
sex at the Westminster dog show. Sire is Skansens Superman. (because he is one big dog with a big head)Thats for the giant schnauzer group.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:55 PM
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17. I missed that...
we recently lost a little terrier mix, mostly schnauzer, with a heart as big as the world. They are wonderful dogs. Congratulations to his cousin!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:21 PM
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19. not all of it, the other half is on tonight on the USA network. you
can go to the Westminster web site(google) and see the winners.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:30 PM
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23. Thanks!
I did see the judging for best in working group today, and was pulling for the Giant Schnauzer, or the Rottie, because I used to have a female Rott. We got Mac as a companion for her, and the 90 lb weight difference didn't matter a bit to him!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:45 AM
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6. "careless, selfish hunter"
"Though it should never happen, a careless, selfish hunter might even swing through with his shotgun...

It is unfortunate that upland bird hunting has gotten this kind of bad press because of irresponsible hunting practices by a prominent member of the upper class. Hunting preserves open spaces for use by all; hunting connects younger generations with the land and with traditions; hunting is about conservation. As a hunter and conservationist, I feel misrepresented by Cheney and his ilk. They portray hunting as a sport for the rich, carried out on vast private lands, where pulling the trigger takes priority over everything else."
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:46 AM
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7. Well said! (Thanks for posting the link.) n/t
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:11 AM
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8. He was probably drinking
That's the likely explanation for the SS not allowing local law enforcement access the same day.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:47 AM
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9. The silence of the NRA is deafening. n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:12 AM
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14. Yeah, you'd think this would be a great opportunity for the NRA
to talk about safe gun use.

Wonder why they're so quiet...
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:29 PM
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20. Guns don't kill people, neocons kill people.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:21 AM
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10. general rule for deer hunting is to stop an hour before sundown but
I do not know the hunting rules in Tx.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 09:47 AM
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12. Actually it's 30 minutes after sundown.
Most deer are taken in the first hour of day light, and the last hour of day light.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:24 AM
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11. Plus the lawyer was wearing day-glo orange.
When's the last time you saw a giant, orange quail?
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 09:56 AM
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13. Don't those damned quail understand executive privilege?
How dare they behave so treasonously by not cooperating in getting shot so late in the day.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:12 AM
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15. exordinary procedures necessary when quail refuses to fly high
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:56 PM
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18. Isn't farm hunting different?
These were penn raised birds.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:32 PM
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21. He's 78. Come on. isn't anyone thinking about keeping an eye on him?
I've never been hunting, but I can tell you, if my old grandpa were out with us, I'd keep an eye on him every second. He's 78. Be real. You don't let a 78 year old man wander off. You just don't. Period. If he's out of sight, you start screaming and yelling to hold fire, don't you?

Is this difficult?
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trixie Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:04 PM
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22. EXACTLY!
I think we have a winner.

:woohoo:
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:19 PM
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24. Right. Demonstrates depraved neglect and bloodthirst.
"I'll blast those birds to kingdom come....."
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