12 dead after helicopter crashes in Iraq

[MaineDem]

Holy shit! That's 17 in an hour?

Looking for a link...just reported on tv.

Link here: http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/world/13579343.htm


Edited to change Subject to match headline and add link.

[Oversea Visitor]

1. Shit

So now what bush dont you want to cut and run

[JVS]

2. ugh

[qanda]

3. Are those soldiers?

There are Senators over there too.

[LosinIt]

4. reporter just said 28 dead since Thursday

damn it

[Lindsay]

5. 28 dead since Thursday,

according to CNN.

And how many Iraquis?

Mr. Bush's war is an obscenity.

[still_one]

18. bush is mostly responsible

but he could NOT have done it without congress

How come people like Russ Feingold, Robert Byrd, Barbara Boxer, and others could see the falicy?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

38. Herr Busch is TOTALLY responsible...the buck stops on HIS desk.

[Oversea Visitor]

6. Obama in Iraq

Hope he safe.

[countingbluecars]

22. So do I.

The AP reports that the UH-60 Black Hawk was part of a two-helicopter team moving between bases.

[peaches2003]

26. Have to add this Obama wingnut post from another site

I was reading a wingnut site yesterday and one poster said- 'Obama was brought up by a white mother and white grandparents and only decided to become black when he wanted to run for political office.'

Where do these people come from?

[PCIntern]

7. Fox still talking about miner funerals

we've become a country of catastrophes. One after another.

Thank God we got rid of those peace and prosperity Dems and we're doing much better under Repub Rule.

finally, after the 'break' they're gonna tell us about the Helo. Do not forget to note the cleavage of the woman on the left.

I know I'm not supposed to be watching Fox, but that idiot Tony Harris on CNN is so stupid that I can't watch him. He's the guy who gavve the runaway Bride's sheriff an argument that she must have been abducted even when the authorities knew better, and as much as told him that there was more to this story that 'fateful' morning. What a moran. what ever happened to Leon Harris?

[0007]

8. Stack em higher and higher, shouted junior!

Grass Bush

Pile the bodies high in Austerlitz and Waterloo Iraq
Shovel them under and let me work--
I am the grass; bush; I cover all.

And pile them high in Gettyburg Baghdad
And pile them high in Ypres and Vedum Mossoul and Al Fallaujah

Two years, ten years, and passengers ask the conductor:
What place is this?

I am the grass bush.
Let me work.

Carl Sandburg


Support the war - Donate a Son a daughter
The GOP working for a better America

[maddezmom]

9. CNNI reporting it went down in al Tafar

[MaineDem]

10. Sorry, mods. Still looking for a link. n/t

[MaineDem]

13. BBC has it as a headline with "More to follow" n/t

[still_one]

just go to cnn.com

it is on as breaking news

[Bozita]

15. Reuters link (4 crew and 8 "passengers")

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060108/ts_nm/iraq_crash_dc


7 minutes ago




BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A U.S. UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter crashed in northern Iraq late on Saturday night, killing all its passengers and crew, the U.S. military said on Sunday.

Four crew members and eight passengers were listed as being on the flight, the U.S. military said in a statement, adding that the cause of the crash was under investigation.

[Cooley Hurd]

16. On edit: CNNI saying chopper was on "routine mission..."

n/t

[maddezmom]

23. AP has a bit more:

~snip~
The UH-60 Black Hawk was part of a two-helicopter team moving between bases when communications were lost, it said.


Sharon to Remain in Coma Until Monday
12 Dead After Helicopter Crashes in Iraq
Prayers for Prime Minister

A search and rescue operation was launched and the aircraft was found about noon Sunday, it added.

The names of those aboard weren't released pending notification of relatives.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1483421&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

[still_one]

11. I am sure they will say it was a mechanical failure

[babylonsister]

20. MSNBC emphasized how lousy the weather is/was. nt

[still_one]

21. we will see, but if it is due to a rocket

I am sure it will be hidden several days later on the back pages

What I have noticed is that there is even less reporting about the casulties in Iraq than before, and it was pathetic before

There will have to be a lot more pain before things change

Until we see a lot more marches and protests nothing will change

That is what happened during Viet Nam

[niallmac]

36. Anyone notice CNN does not even CARE why it went down?

BBC says the cause is "under investigation." CNN does not seem to feel that WHY the chopper went down would be on anyones mind. Maddening.

[Cobalt Violet]

12. How was it downed?

Any info on that yet?

[maddezmom]

14. found a link

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/world/13579343.htm

[leftchick]

17. 30 Dead in just one week!

30!!!!

[still_one]

19. we are now over the 2200 mark

we will see what happens in 2006, but I have no illusion that there will be a lot more pain before this is over, and it will not just be because of the repukes

[alcibiades_mystery]

24. Welcome to the Desert of the Real

....

[alphafemale]

25. oh no

:cry:

[northerdar]

27. 37 American troops killed in 4 days.

I came to this total from reading the article.
12 + 5 + 3 + 2 + 11 + 2 + 2
How many wounded?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/08/iraq.main/index.html


The helicopter, which was carrying a crew of four and eight passengers, was flying between bases in the north of the country, according to news releases from the U.S. military.

The military also announced the deaths of five U.S. Marines in three different Iraqi towns Saturday and Sunday.

Insurgents in Falluja killed three Marines during separate gunbattles Sunday. Falluja is about 35 miles (56 kilometers) west of Baghdad in restive Anbar province.

On Saturday, roadside bombs killed two Marines, one near al-Karma and another near Ferris. Both towns are near Falluja.

Since the war began, 2,198 U.S. service members serving in Iraq have died.



On Friday, military officials revealed that 11 U.S. troops -- eight soldiers and three Marines -- were among about 140 people killed in attacks across Iraq Thursday, the deadliest day in Iraq in nearly four months.

A U.S. soldier and a U.S. Marine were killed in a major suicide bombing targeting an Iraqi police recruitment center in Ramadi, the military said Friday. Both were assigned to 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward).

Their deaths bring the number of people killed in the Ramadi attack to at least 82, along with about 70 wounded. (More on what happened)

In addition, two U.S. Marines were killed by small arms fire in separate attacks during combat operations in Falluja, the military said. The Marines were assigned to Regimental Combat Team 8, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward).

Also, a roadside bomb killed two Task Force Baghdad soldiers on patrol in the Baghdad area of operations, the military said Friday. That incident was under investigation.

And five other Task Force Baghdad soldiers died in a separate roadside bombing near Baghdad.

The names of the soldiers and Marines were withheld pending notification of relatives. Since the war began, 2,193 U.S. troops have died in Iraq

[alcibiades_mystery]

29. No...you are double counting seven

The five and one of the twos is included in the eleven.

[TheBaldyMan]

28. k &r n/t

[wookie294]

30. Few Americans give a shit

Back to "Entertainment Tonight" and my Game Boy.

[Old sixties guy]

42. Iraq fiasco

Oh,Americans DO give a shit but they feel powerless to do anything beyond traditional electoral politics and the Democrats,with a few exceptions,have not been an outspoken anti-war opposition to the Bush fiasco.
I work in a large non military government facility and almost all of us oppose this brutal war.Yet my co-workers are so cynical about the options for protest that they throw their hands up in frustration.Part of it is fear of losing their jobs but much rests on the fact that the anti-war movement has not reached out to this group effectively.

[livvy]

31. Another link with information.

http://www.wral.com/apworldnews/5928103/detail.html

"....In Saturday's crash, records indicated that eight passengers and four crew members were aboard, the officials said, but they did not say how many were members of the U.S. military or if all were Americans. The military also did not say what caused the crash...."

Who were the passengers? Were they military or civilian? What Senators are in Iraq? How many? Anyone know where they are or were supposed to be going? The info or lack of it makes me nervous.
:tinfoilhat:

What a waste of precious life! So many promising young and not-so-young anymore people. My most sincere sympathies to their families and friends.

:cry:

Edit: Found the answer to my own question!
http://www.sj-r.com/sections/news/stories/75665.asp
Obama said he was sleeping in the former pool house of ousted dictator Saddam Hussein within the high-security "green zone" of Baghdad, where U.S. military officials are headquartered. Under heavy security, he and other members of Congress traveled outside the green zone to dine Saturday night with President Talabani and other members of the current government.

The trip to Iraq is led by Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and includes Sen. Christopher Bond, R-Mo., and Rep. Harold Ford, D-Tenn.

[countingbluecars]

32. Obama, Ford, Bayh, and Bond

are in Iraq. I hope they are safe.

[livvy]

33. Thanks...

I found the answer to my question doing a Google. I posted the link in my original post. They were in the Green Zone on Saturday. (I feel better now!)It's an interesting article from Obama's point of view. See the link in my post.
Thanks again!

[DemonFighterLives]

34. Barely a mention of this in the MSM

What the hell is wrong with our country that we can forget the fallen soldiers?
:dem:
Kicking and Recommending!

[High Plains]

35. 17 dead Americans closer to withdrawal

If anyone has to get killed in Iraq, it might as well be American soldiers. It is only the deaths of American soldiers that might stop this misadventure because the US government doesn't give a shit about dead Iraqis.

[Zhade]

46. You know how many people will get angry with you for saying that?

Sadly, you're right. And while I do NOT want ANYONE to die, it has to be pointed out that the soldiers are the ones who invaded a country that didn't attack us, under illegal orders from the fascist-in-chief.

That's why they need to be brought home, ASAP! Talk about a rock and a really hard place!

[lebkuchen]

37. I wonder if it was a medivac flight

considering all the attacks against the US this weekend.

[HuffleClaw]

39. i'm waiting for 'em to pretend it was a

'mechanical failure' or 'dust storm' or 'bird strike' or whatever their latest excuse is when one of their aircraft gets shot down. poor souls.

[Rainscents]

40. This is so sad...

Rip for all who lost their life for this illegal war. My prayer goes out to their families.

[daleo]

41. Not too far from the Syrian border

"The UH-60 Blackhawk came down just before midnight on Saturday, some 12km (seven miles) east of the town of Talafar, seen as a rebel stronghold.

The US military said the cause of the crash remained under investigation.
...
Talafar, about 150km (90 miles) from the Syrian border, is seen as a centre for Iraqi insurgents and is thought to be a staging-post for foreign fighters."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4592622.stm

[deadparrot]

43. RIP.

...

[pinniped]

44. Another fucking anomaly.

My a$$.

[Harper_is_Bush]

45. Hey CNN, where's your "Hope and Heartbreak, Inside Blackhawk Tragedy"..

piece on this?

When are you going to pester every family member and friend of the family for interviews and start telling us what the soldiers must have felt as they were plumetting or what kind of physical pain they must felt ect ect ect YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES?????

[rodeodance]

47. U.S. helicopter crash kills 12 in Iraq (5 US Marines...slain over weekend

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/08/iraq.main/index.html

U.S. helicopter crash kills 12 in Iraq
Five U.S. Marines also slain over weekend, military says

Sunday, January 8, 2006; Posted: 11:26 a.m. EST (16:26 GMT)
A U.S. Army UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter is shown in a file photo over Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Twelve Americans were killed when a UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter crashed in Iraq early Sunday, the military said.

The helicopter, which was carrying a crew of four and eight passengers, was flying along with another aircraft between bases in the north of the country, according to news releases from the U.S. military.

Rescuers searched for about 12 hours, finding the crash site about noon (4 a.m. ET), some 7.5 miles (12 kilometers) east of Tal Afar. A military release described the area as sparsely populated.

The military didn't say whether any of the 12 dead were civilians.

[jefferson_dem]

48. duplicate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2028652

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[saigon68]

52. Adios

[montana_hazeleyes]

50. Maybe, the little Bastard, Demon , Psychopathic Chimp**

Is trying to out do Bin Laden. Maybe when he kills enough troops to beat the number killed on 9-11 he'll pull out. He just needs to kill more than anyone else. Just like when he** was governor.

I know this is nutty talk but I'm just so damned distressed at this shit! It has to stop!

And I don't care who else voted for it, went along with it ,supported it or anything else, in the end it was bush's** order to start the bombing.

I Blame him** for every death and injury that has occurred to each and every person involved from whatever county since this hell on earth invasion started.

[doc03]

51. The 13 miners in WV have been getting 24 hour coverage

by the MSM for a week now, every day Americans and civilians are dieing unnoticed in Iraq.