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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:06 AM
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Sharon Gravely Ill; Returns to Operating Room - CNN Breaking
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 05:08 AM by VolcanoJen
CNN International reports that Prime Minister Sharon has undergone a repeated surgery after undergoing a CT-SCAN. CNN International says his family is nearby. It would be his third operation since suffering his intitial stroke.

CNN is being very cautious, in light of recent events, but they've taken a grave tone.

They're awaiting what they call a "long-postponed press conference."

Will post latest link when available.

Link:

Report: Sharon Returns to Operating Room

JERUSALEM - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was taken back to the operating theater following a brain scan Friday, Israeli TV reported, quoting the prime minister's aides.

Hospital officials did not immediately comment on the report.

Two Sharon aides, who were in a meeting elsewhere in Jerusalem, rushed out of the building and were on their way to Hadassah Hospital, Channel 10 reported.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:10 AM
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1. Haaretz newsflash:
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 05:49 AM by Scurrilous
12:47 Cabinet secretary Yisrael Maymon enters Hadassah Hospital (Haaretz)

12:14 Hadassah director: PM suffers inter-cranial pressure due to renewed bleeding (Ch. 2)

12:13 Hadassah Hospital director confirms Sharon is undergoing surgery (Channel 2)

12:05 Hadassah to issue statement in wake of rumor that Sharon undergoing surgery (Ch. 2)

11:59 Sharon aide Eyal Arad arrives at Hadassah Hospital (Channel 10)

11:50 Hadassah refuses to confirm or deny that Sharon is undergoing surgery (Channel 2)

11:46 Source: Sharon on way to Hadassah operating room (Ch. 2)

11:44 Interim PM Olmert, Shimon Peres making their way to Hadassah Hospital

11:08 Sharon`s CT scan ends; doctors are examining its results (Channel 2)

10:31 Sharon is undergoing CT scan at Hadassah University Hospital (Channel 2)

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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:14 AM
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2. can they let this poor man die already?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:23 AM
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3. It sounds as if the end is near for Sharon...
The CT showed more bleeding and raised cranial pressure (hence the return to the OR).

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:25 AM
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4. That will please many here. n/t
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:29 AM
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5. Not me... despite my dislike for him, I wish death on no one.
...and I'm saddened by those who do.:(
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:31 AM
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6. I agree.
I didn't mean to imply you were one of "them." Unfortunately, there are plenty of ghouls here that are just waiting for Sharon to die.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:06 AM
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15. I Recalled A Lot Of People Taking Pleasure In Arafat's Death
Oh wait, Sharon's the good guy, my mistake. In any case, I'm sorry to see him go, it looked like he was finally coming around.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:08 AM
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16. don't recall...
..do a search!

You won't find as many disgusting remarks as you are finding now!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:44 AM
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8. It wouldn't please me but I do take into account the people massacred
when considering the circumstances of his own demise
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:47 AM
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9. Maybe not you...
...but others will look past any good that came from his 'rule.' He is no saint, not even close. But, like the president of Iran, many here will rejoice in Sharon's death, should it occur.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:58 AM
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10. Hi Teena!
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 06:04 AM by Cooley Hurd
:hi:

We've talked about this before (when Reagan died). There's little schadenfreude to be had from an old man dying in his bed. Had he been tried and convicted of his crimes against the Palestinian and Lebanese people and were serving in prison, that would be justice.

On edit: I removed "executed" because, despite my dislike for Sharon, I'm still anti-death penalty.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:00 AM
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11. So...
...it's OK that he may be dying?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:02 AM
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12. No, not at all.
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 06:05 AM by Cooley Hurd
He's an old man dying a difficult death. That's a sad occurrence.

(I edited my previous post for the reason stated)...
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:06 AM
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14. So, you would agree...
..."Had he (Arafat) been tried and convicted of his crimes against the Palestinian and Israeli people and were serving in prison or even executed, that would be justice." ?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:08 AM
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17. Yes, if Arafat was tried and convicted, he should be incarcerated...
Please see my previous post - I admittedly misspoke when I said I'd be okay with Sharon's execution, since I'm anti-death penalty.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:16 AM
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21. Be careful....
...admiting you are wrong could make you a "freeper!" I don't think that, I see it as a sign of a real liberal! But, I am a loud-mouth Jew, so my opinion is obviously tainted.

I must say to you, after two days of rancid posts, it is nice to see someone who despises Sharon's policies, but still sees that he is human.

What has become of humanity?
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:18 AM
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29. Part of humanity is to remember
the criminals who have offended it.

I take no particular pleasure in this criminal's death but I do take pleasure in the fact the he won't be able to kill any more people.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:07 AM
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33. RE: What has become of humanity?
> What has become of humanity?

I dunno -- let's ask Yitzhak Rabin, ehh?

Tesha
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:08 AM
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18. We shall all die
I don't rejoice in his suffering. Rather, when considering it, I consider all he caused as well. He wrote his history. I didn't.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:21 AM
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22. No, you didn't write his history.
His history is his own; the good and the bad.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:10 AM
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19. nice to see you around, Teena!

:hi:

Hope you've been okay.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:12 AM
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20. I am now thanks
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:05 AM
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13. heavens... anyone who cares about peace must surely realize..
--no matter what they think of SHaron-- that he was uniquely positioned to make the kind of decisions that would result in progress and this is true purely because he had the past that he did. I don't deny his crimes against the Palestinians-- but ironically because of that past, he could now moderate and get many Israelis to go along.

His death will not be good thing for the peace process. But, I don't wish to see him suffer.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:31 AM
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23. it doesn't matter.
The withdrawal was a "ploy." He is "evil" incarnate. Or so the story goes.

As you said, his death would be bad for the peace process, but the "Israeli-haters" can't see that. I think Israel can and will recover, should he pass on. We can only hope that anyone to take his position, should he pass away, will be able to bring peace to that region.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 07:40 AM
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25. Don't worry about the few.
I agree with you that Sharon's death would be bad for the peace process. Sharon seemed to be coming around in the past couple of years.

Why worry about a few people who seem glad he'll be dead soon? There are all kinds of people posting on this board. There will always be a few who will post comments like that. I think the majority of us know how important this is.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 07:55 AM
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26. Yep, his death would be a worsening of the situation.
I mean, Sharon is a crook and a killer, but 'Bibi' is WAY worse.

Sad that it comes down to that. The Israeli people deserve better leaders.

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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:24 AM
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31. Yes that's what Weisglass, Sharon's adviser
said about the withdrawal from Gaza. Why do you think this is a 'story', as if people were making it up?

Can you tell me where the 'peace process' is at the moment? I haven't seen it for some years, but I am curious to know what you think has happened that has been part of a 'process' for the last five years?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:19 AM
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30. Right, hlthe2b
It's the "Only Nixon could go to China" syndrome.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:42 AM
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24. I have to admit
I more upset about NYC's 2nd Avenue Deli closing down.

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:38 AM
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7. From the grave tone of the media, I imagine it's imminent
We'll know soon.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:04 AM
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27. At this point, death is a good thing
He does not strike me as a man who would want to live with extensive, permanent brain damage.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:11 AM
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28. I feel sorry for his family more than anything
to have this yo-yo-ing back and forth to the OR to save him when is very likely that at 77 he will never recover....
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:08 AM
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34. I guess Prime Ministers can't have living wills?
n/t
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:03 AM
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32. Farewell to the "man of peace"
Sharon's exit is like that of any mass murderer: the earth emerges at last from a great shadow.

Sharon's victims were many, his compassions nil, his wisdom empty, his antagonisms always primed. As Rabbi Michael Lerner observed the other day, he should have stood trial for crimes against humanity. Instead of being sent to the Hague, of course, Sharon would routinely send the US Congress into fits of rapture (if not, unhappily for some of them, Rapture) whenever he favored them with another visit to collect a check. What a sad distinction for that body: sugar daddy to a sordid behemoth.

And what a tragedy he was for mankind; rest in peace, "man of peace."
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:02 AM
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35. CNN: Sharon out of surgery - statement shortly from hospital...
:shrug:
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spunky Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:03 AM
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36. Drudge is reporting that he has died.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:05 AM
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37. nothing on cnn or msnbc yet...
:shrug:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:13 AM
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38. Bush spoke of him past tense yesterday
and I heard one report that said his organs were failing. It's only a matter of days, if that now.

As soon as they were reporting he'd had a "significant" (or massive or however they rated it), it reminded me of when my grandmother died 20 years ago. There was no way she was going to come out of it. She was on a life support and my mother finally, thankfully, made the gut wrenching decision to pull everything. She still had the respirator, though. I remember the anger at that being left in as it caused all of us to endure another three days of waiting for the inevitable and not being able to move on to the next stages of grief. :(
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:06 PM
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39. from the link
snip>
A computed tomography scan taken on Friday morning showed little to no brain activity in Sharon. At that point, Sharon's son, Omri, called aides and senior officials to the hospital to prepare for an announcement of the prime minister's death.

Sharon was expected to be succeeded by Vice Premier Ehud Olmert, who is also the nation's finance minister. On Friday, Olmert met Sharon's political ally, former Prime Minister Shimon Peres, in an attempt to form a working relationship ahead of parliamentary elections on March 28.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:27 PM
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40. latest: from AP: Sharon shows "significant improvement"
AP, January 6, 2006 - 11:22

JERUSALEM (AP) - Prime Minister Ariel Sharon showed "significant improvement" after five hours of emergency brain surgery Friday, with doctors stopping the bleeding and relieving the pressure inside his skull, a hospital official said.

...

"During surgery, the increased intracranial pressure was released, part of the blood clots that remained after the first operation were drained," he said. "At the end of the operation, there is no active bleeding and the intracranial pressure has returned to normal."

"I can say that in comparison to previous CT scans . . . there is a significant improvement in the way the brain exam looks to Hadassah's experts," Mor-Yosef said.

He said the prime minister was in "stable, but serious" condition.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20060106-0805-israel-sharon.html
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:28 PM
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41. I don't understand how he can show 'improvement' when ...
... he was supposedly in a drug induced coma that was supposed to last until Sunday, according to another media outlet this morning ...

:shrug: Nobody really seems to know :wtf: is going on ...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 02:33 PM
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42. "Nobody really seems to know wtf is going on..."
Kind of like the miners.

It's a bad week for the media... and nothing on CNN about the 11 soldiers we lost in Iraq yesterday. Plenty about the honeymooner killed on the cruise ship, though.
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