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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:18 AM
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Greek paper prints photo of 'MI6 agent'

From John Carr in Athens for Times Online



A photograph purporting to be Britain's top MI6 agent in Greece was published today on the front page of an Athens newspaper, as controversy continues over the alleged role of British agents in the arrest and supposed abuse of a group of Pakistanis living in Athens.

The left-of-centre national daily Eleftherotypia ran a photograph of a middle-aged man running the Athens Classic Marathon race last November, naming him as both a British embassy diplomat and the head of the supposed clandestine arresting team.

More than one Greek newspaper has named the diplomat, drawing fire from the Greek and British governments, which say that such acts endanger the security apparatus of both countries. The Pakistani embassy in Athens has also expressed its displeasure.

The diplomat was hurriedly recalled to London late last month.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1971456,00.html
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:19 AM
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1. Greek newspaper names 'MI6 chief'
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...561720.stm
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:20 AM
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2. or as O'Reilly would have it, M-one-six.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:23 AM
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3. LOL !
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:25 AM
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5. does he really pronounce it like that? ! ? nt.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:50 PM
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18. On Letterman he did.

Funny. Tragic.

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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:26 AM
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7. Beat me to it! LOL n/t
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:32 AM
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11. I know, I caught that too and was like "What an ignorant ass!" (AGAIN!)n/t
PB
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:34 AM
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12. if only Letterman caught him on that...
... "Bill, how can I believe you when you don't even know the name of the agency you're mentioning? Its M-EYE. M-EYE! Its like calling it the C-1-A. Haven't you ever watched a spy movie?"
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:35 AM
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13. Spy Harder?
?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:40 AM
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14. OMG! I could not believe my ears when O'Liely said M-one-6.
Dave really took him down that night. :)
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:51 AM
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15. You know in his neocon mind it stands for M-16 (the rifle). They...
...have so few brain cells they mnemonically link big words like "MI-6" to their knowledge of rifles, et al.

PB
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 12:36 PM
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17. yeah...
O'Reilly once again has proven himself to be an ignorant cow.

Dave, I think, followed that up with "I'm not smart enough to debate you".....I was screaming at my TV..."I AM! PUT ME ON THE SHOW!!"

M-one-six...my ass....what a HUG!!!!!1111 mistake.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:24 AM
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4. cryptome to the rescue..(with thanks to hmm at rigorous intuitiuon)
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cryptome names names,has scans of the original greek article..

cryptome.org/br-gr-spies.htm


Quote:
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The MI6 station chief in Athens appears to be Nicholas Langman (see Greek spelling of the name in red box in Greek paper below), Counsellor at the British Embassy in Athens. Langman has been identified as an MI6 official by Steven Dorril in MI6: Inside the Covert World of Her Majesty's Secret Intelligence Service: cryptome.org/mi6-sd36.htm
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which is weird for that page has this quote on Langman


Quote:
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Quite separately, one of Rosa's closest friends and a godparent to the Lawsons' daughter, the late Princess of Wales had clearly been under some kind of surveillance, as evidenced by the 1,050-page dossier held by the US National Security Agency (NSA) in its archive, detailing private telephone conversations between Diana and American friends intercepted at MI6's request. While all stories linking MI6 to the Princess's death in the car accident in France have been complete nonsense, it has been alleged that working closely with I/Ops in an attempt to deflect enquiries away from the security services had been a chief of staff to 'C', Richard Spearman, temporarily posted to the Paris embassy with his assistant, Nicholas Langman.3
~snip~
2 & 3. Sunday Business, 20.12.98 & 24.1.99. Family friend and former Conservative defence procurement minister, Jonathan Allen, who was an MI6 agent, providing insights into the Saudi royal family and their defence spending plans.
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If this was openly discussed in a UK paper in 1999 and the information is already out there on the internet i dont see what the fuss or the gag is really about..

SEE:

http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=2460.topic
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:27 AM
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8. You mean this guy?
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:31 AM
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10. On the run or about to be kicked upstairs to run UK 2012 olympic
biz?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:26 AM
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6. And Private Eye names him this week too
and points out the BBC claim that "the UK government has forbidden the media from naming the man" is bollocks - it takes an explicit court injuction to forbid the publication of a name, since defence notices are now advisory - and with the guy's name (Nick Langman) in the public domain abroad, it makes bugger all difference publishing it in the UK too. Having said that, we as the public don't have any use for his name - it's whether he was involved in abuse of suspecst that's important. You might think that fuss over the revelation of his name and/or photograph is meant to distract from the accusations of abuse.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:30 AM
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9. how is the Eye these days, anyway?
I used to get old back issues from a London pal in the early 90s, and though I was baffled by some of the political stuff, always enjoyed the venom...

and those nifty old discs...
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 12:32 PM
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16. It's still good, in my opinion
They still break some things that the newspapers take weeks to catch up on, and their satire can still be very good (as always, some a lot better than others). Very early on, they started portraying Blair as a self-righteous vicar (the equivalent of the Dear Bill letters, or the 'Diary of John Major aged 47 and 3/4, if you remember that), and it really has turned out to be spot on (in it, Bush is "the Revd. Dubya Bush from the Church of the Latter Day Morons").

Here's one bit from this week, after Prince Charles let it be known he might be "King George VII", becasue Charles I was executed, and Charles II had a lot of mistresses:

History Today

Why George is a more suitable royal title than Charles...

George I = Marriage was dissolved following adultery on both sides - and widely believed to have ordered murder of wife's lover

George II = Intensely disliked by his own father

George III = Mad - and irritated government by interfering in matters he knew nothing about

George IV = Illegally married his mistress

George V = Changed name in desperate attempt to make himself more popular
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