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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:58 AM
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Coalition plans new California redistricting initiative
Coalition plans new California redistricting initiative

By JIM SANDERS
Sacramento Bee
03-JAN-06

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Backers of the failed Proposition 77 redistricting measure will announce a new proposal Wednesday to change how California draws legislative, congressional and Board of Equalization boundaries.

The new initiative would take responsibility for drawing boundaries out of the hands of the Legislature and give it to a citizens commission, beginning in 2011.

Proposition 77, by contrast, called for a three-judge panel to handle redistricting and for new lines to be drawn immediately.

Ted Costa, who launched Proposition 77, is part of a new coalition hoping to place the proposal before voters in November.
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http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=REDISTRICT-01-03-06
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 02:05 AM
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1. They just NEVER stop. do they?
Like water dripping on a rock..:grr:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 02:57 AM
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5. They can have CA when they pry it out of my cold dead hands.
Let them spend their dirty money, in barrowfuls.

:nuke:
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 02:09 AM
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2. The word "coalition" gives me the willies.
Just like any group with "Concerned" in its title did in the 90s.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 02:45 AM
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3. Nope. This is yet another Costa attempt at a minority government.
disclaimer I toyed with supporting Prop 77 (the panel of judges proposal looked good at first take), against my own aversion to "legislation by proposition", because I feel strongly that redistricting has become a politically corrupt enterprise.

I rethought my vote, though, and joined a lot of other Californians in defeating 77. We need to reform redistricting, but that has to happen in the legislature, not via proposition.



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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 02:47 AM
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4. Will this be like the redistrictling we got in Texas?
You know, courtesy of Tom Delay!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:40 AM
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6. I'm sick to death of these initiatives
I wish they would end the whole process. Anymore it's just used for nothing but crap. :mad:
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 04:45 AM
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7. Ok time for
Gelliebeans to launch a proposition calling for the relocation of Ted Costa to a unspecified island in the pacific ocean with provisions to take his concerned citizens with him.

Why won't they leave my state alone :mad:
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:56 AM
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8. can't we just crucify these people and be done with it yet?
after watching history channel's marathon fellating roman civilization, i'm beginning to get nostalgic...
:sarcasm:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:28 AM
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9. What do you people find wrong with this?
We bitch about how partisan politicians are gerrymandering the districts yet when someone comes out with a proposal to take that control away from the politicians we bitch. What the hell do you people want anyway?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:42 AM
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10. come see how hard we are fighting in fla to get our gerrymandering
overturned..we got not one change of hands in the 2004 election...not one!!

and its harder to overturn these sob's gerrymandering than it is for them to get it..by the time people wake up to how its screwing them..its the most difficult thing to get it turned back...

do not let it happen calif!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or you will be added as another state the nazis can steal!
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:01 AM
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11. Those partisan politicians were elected by me
and other people in California. I can vote against my representatives if I don't like what they are doing. But I have no control whatsoever over some committee, whether they are judges or citizens or whatever. Since Bush came into office, 90% of Americans are partisan. Bush and the Republicans have been that divisive. It is impossible to have a non-partisan group draw the lines.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:53 AM
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12. Yes.
Accountable or unaccountable is much more important that some fictitious impartiality.
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