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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:41 AM
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Special Tropical Disturbance Statement (Tropical Strom Zeta forms)
SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE
EASTERN ATLANTIC HAS DEVELOPED INTO A TROPICAL STORM ABOUT 1000
MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF THE AZORES. A SPECIAL ADVISORY ON
TROPICAL STORM ZETA IS IN PREPARATION AND WILL BE ISSUED IN AN HOUR
OR SO.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIADSAAT+shtml/301605.shtml
-------------------------------------------------------------

Is this the latest an Atlantic tropical strom has formed?
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:45 AM
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1. WTF?
I really mean :wtf:

That's the most unheard of thing I've ever heard of! Will this season ever end?
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:01 PM
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3. It doesn't look like it will ever end, does it?
The coldest time of the year in Florida is usually January and February, so we might see some respite for those months. BUT, these storms are forming in the eastern Atlantic where weather patterns and the temperatures of the ocean probably follow a different schedule than the western Atlantic...

Time to think about speeding up that old time table for moving inland (way inland!) I'm not sure it can wait until retirement.

BTW, what comes after Zeta?
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:03 PM
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5. I have no idea what's next.
But after last year, I'm thinking about moving inland myself. I'm about 3 miles from the Gulf of Mexico right now.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:10 PM
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8. Eta, then Theta - my girl is Greek from Tarpon Springs -and I had a little
Edited on Fri Dec-30-05 12:11 PM by stop the bleeding
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:59 PM
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15. The Greek alphabet
Alpha
Beta
Gamma
Delta
Epsilon
Zeta
Eta
Theta
Iota
Kappa
Lambda
Mu
Nu
Xi
Omicron
Pi
Rho
Sigma
Tau
Upsilon
Phi
Chi
Psi
Omega
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 01:13 PM
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19. Wow! The whole shebang. Thanks!
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 01:28 PM
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22. That's what comes from being a math major
Bad thing, though, is that I first learned it using the Greek pronunciations, not the Romanized names used in the science and tech fields. Makes it kind of confusing when I run through the list in my head and write it all down :nopity:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 03:52 PM
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33. That's classic
Edited on Fri Dec-30-05 03:54 PM by depakid
Here's what they look like, for all the non-math types:





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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 01:08 PM
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18. I'm two blocks from the Intracoastal Waterway and that is at the widest
point, only two miles from the ocean. Some places, the ocecn and the Intracoastal meet up...
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 01:17 PM
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20. Dr. Phool - personal question
Are you a Dentist or formally one???
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:34 PM
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11. Eta
But I think it'll have to wait for another year. The name clock resets on Sunday.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:05 PM
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6. Let me give you a +1 on that WTF
:wtf:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:49 AM
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2. Just Wow...
Man o' man what have we done?!
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oregonindy Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:03 PM
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4. Is this the latest storm in the season ever?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:07 PM
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7. Not quite - latest was 12/31/1954
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:12 PM
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9. update to your question..
...Epsilon survived into December, becoming the 14th hurricane of the 2005 Atlantic season. Epsilon would go on to be the longest lasting December hurricane on record in the Atlantic. It is rare to have a hurricane in December with only 6 hurricanes on record since 1851. Epsilon would tie hurricane Nicole of 1998 as the second strongest December hurricane. The strongest hurricane on record for December was Hurricane #2 in 1921.

http://www.weather.com/newscenter/tropical/




also reply from another thread here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5715775&mesg_id=5715998
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:34 PM
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10. Wow... 27 named storms this year!
I have a bad feeling that next year won't be better.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:44 PM
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12. this site has a lot of info......
http://flhurricane.com/cyclone/stormspotlight.php?year=2005&storm=25

The 2005 Atlantic Hurricane Season continues to surprise and amaze. In conjunction with a persistent upper-level low in the eastern Atlantic, a surface low developed yesterday and quickly became organized this morning and early afternoon, resulting in the development of the season's 27th named storm of the season, Zeta. Only one other storm that I can recall -- "Alice2" of 1954 -- formed this late in the year, lasting into January 1955; of course, there are likely others in or out of the database as well. Zeta is also the season's 6th Greek named storm and, in a punny twist of fate, is often used by meteorologists as the symbol to represent vorticity -- or, as Jim Cantore puts it, spin -- a feature which tropical cyclones certainly have a lot of.

Zeta formed in a somewhat peculiar manner, with elements of Vince, Delta, and Epsilon (location), elements of some of this season's western Atlantic storms (enhancement by an upper-level low), and perhaps even elements of pure tropical development (convection fires within a mid-level feature, spins up a low-level circulation, convection dies out, the circulation organizes, and we get a tropical disturbance out of it). We'll watch it as we head into the new year -- needless to say, Zeta will almost assuredly be the last named storm of the 2005 season.

More coming soon.
http://flhurricane.com

:evilfrown:
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:54 PM
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13. Satellite pic


Small, but powerful enough to be classed as a tropical storm. Very, very scary.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:57 PM
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14. I think it's time we all packed our bags and moved to Central Canada.
I think we all know when mother nature has defeated us, this is a sure sign! Abandon the coasts! Off to Canada! Twenty Pounds for the King!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 01:02 PM
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16. In another 5 years it should have a tropical climate.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 03:37 PM
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32. Where ya gonna go when the ice age starts?
;-)
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 01:04 PM
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17. They really need an alternate to the Greek letters...
It doesn't seem right and sooner or later, one of those greek named storms is gonna be a killer, and if they retire greek letters, how are you gonna replace them?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 01:21 PM
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21. For that matter, think of poor Catherine Zeta-Jones
(gratuitous pic)



Oh well, it could be worse: Mom recently spoke with a customer service rep named Katrina Day! Sure hope her birthday ain't 8/29...
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:45 PM
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30. Thanks for that, another Zeta that's simply amazing.
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:30 PM
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23. Tropical storm Zeta???
<http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIADSAAT+shtml/301605.shtml??>

This is insane. Another out of season named Atlantic storm to close out the year.
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EwokMyWeewok Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:30 PM
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24. .
I wouldnt believe it, but here I am seeing it. I live in Florida too. You guys were the first ones on this. Geesh. Time to put up the tinsel and re break out the plywood, amirite?
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quisp Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:30 PM
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25. freaky, isn't it?
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:30 PM
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26. maybe they'll have to lengthen the official season ... (n/t)
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:30 PM
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27. simply amazing
and people still believe that there's no such thing as global warming

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democracy eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:30 PM
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28. I can believe it , climate is messed
out here on the Nova Scotia coast it is raining and 13C or 55 F
absolutely nuts, it should be -13C
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:42 PM
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29. Un-real, here's more info


<http://tsr.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/tracker/dynamic/N.html>

<http://tsr.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/tracker/dynamic/200530N.html>

<http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT5+shtml/301710.shtml>

000
WTNT35 KNHC 301710
TCPAT5
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM ZETA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1 PM AST FRI DEC 30 2005

...LATE SEASON TROPICAL STORM...THE 27TH OF THE YEAR...FORMS IN THE
EASTERN ATLANTIC...

AT 1 PM AST...1700Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ZETA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 25.0 NORTH... LONGITUDE 36.9 WEST OR ABOUT 1070
MILES...1720 KM... SOUTHWEST OF THE AZORES.

ZETA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH ...13 KM/HR. A TURN
TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 50 MPH... 85 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. ALTHOUGH SOME STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE LATER TODAY...A
WEAKENING TREND IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN TOMORROW.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85 MILES
...140 KM FROM THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1003 MB...29.62 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 1 PM AST POSITION...25.0 N... 36.9 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 50 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1003 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 5 PM AST.

FORECASTER FRANKLIN
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:53 PM
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31. Here are the responses I've had thus far:
(Keep in mind I live in the Florida Keys)

7 You're kidding.
4 Are you serious?
2 Are you shitting me?
4 NO WAY.
1 I'm not telling my wife.

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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 04:02 PM
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34. Congratulations, our planet is completely fucked.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 04:25 PM
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35. I can't take it any more!
:cry:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 07:20 PM
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36. Global warming??? What global warming??? Yikes!!!!
Wait a minute... sorry I was channellin' Bush for a moment instead of the Weather Channel...

Yikes!! In December???

I went through 3 Hurricanes in 2004 in Orlando... that's enough to cover me for a while...

Doug D.
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