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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:34 AM
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Clark Would Consider Signing Landmine Treaty Ban
Clark Would Consider Signing Landmine Treaty Ban
http://www.thewmurchannel.com/politics/2608220/detail.h...
Clark Made Declaration At KSU Monday
Retired General Wesley Clark said while campaigning in New Hampshire Monday night that he would consider signing the International Treaty to Ban Landmines.

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Clark also said he would closely scrutinize all federal spending -- including defense spending -- but he would "take care of the men and women in uniform, and the veterans who have sacrificed so much for our country."


Clark made the remarks at Keene State College after an Internet chat with a handful of the people who submitted 3,500 questions.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:42 AM
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1. Excellent point, and I am glad that at least one Democrat sees the need
to sign this ban. Landmines cause death and wounds long after wars end. I guess it takes a General to have the balls to endorse what had been one of the late Princess Di's major causes.

Kudos to Clark!
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:58 AM
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4. Mostly To Children. -NT-
Jay
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:45 AM
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2. A Very Appreciated Comment On Mines
Edited on Tue Nov-04-03 08:15 AM by cryingshame
And the Pentagon budget does need to be brought in line.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:56 AM
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3. Clinton's Landmine Legacy
"President Clinton personally helped make the landmine crisis an issue of great international concern," said Stephen Goose, program director of the Arms Division at Human Rights Watch. "Instead of walking away from an issue we know he cares about deeply, President Clinton should submit the Mine Ban Treaty to the Senate." Goose urged Clinton to take executive actions to begin implementing a comprehensive ban, rather than waiting for the Senate to act.
http://www.icbl.org/prelease/2000/hrwjuly10.php3

The GOP especially it's leadership is an immoral disgrace to God! The year 2004 in the of our Lord and the GOP is promoting death, murder, amputations, torture, rape, aids... around the world. Something for a good Christian GOP supporter to be proud of and read as an epitaph infront of God on judgement day.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:59 AM
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5. I guess Clark
Doesn't want votes from American soldiers based in South Korea, since, as defensive troops, they rely on the landmines more than any in the world.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:08 AM
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6. I Believe That Clinton Tried To Get An Exception For The..
Korean Peninsula but was unsuccessful. Also their value as a front line defensive tool is debatable.

Jay
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:14 AM
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7. Debatable
I'll agree their debatable, but the idea is not to stop the North Koreans, just slow them down. That, inevitibly, they would do.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:23 AM
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9. Easily Defeatable.
Entire swaths of minefields could be easily cleared by cluster munitions. Saddams vast minefields didn't seem to slow us down much in our push toward Kuwait City or Baghdad. Sure, you would have several still intact but they would be tactically insignificant.

Jay
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:27 AM
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11. Anything
Anything that slows down an enemy advance and makes it impossible for them to blitz through the DMZ is a plus if you are on the defensive.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 04:08 PM
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17. American airpower would be the tool that destroys NK armor forces
Also no one is forcing South Korea from using landmines, its' their border so they can defend it just not with American mines.


mines are worthless and lethal to innocents. Ban landmines, cluster munitions and Depleted Uranium.
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:25 AM
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10. well
now that the north koreans are busy building nukes, a few landmines probably arent really much of a speed bump

bush* screwed the pooch when he decided to walk away from the clinton deal on fuel oil and light water reactors. Now Bush is effectively finishing it all off
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59783-20...

fuel-air will have to suffice.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:43 AM
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13. At the time...1995 (?)
Clark specifically mentioned the Korean mines. He was J-5 at the time; therefore, he was part of the objection to the existing treaty. Last night he said that in '95 the military was given 10 years to develope technologies to replace the mining, and he knew of some very favorable possibilities. The Korean situation was the reason for the word "consider" being used.

Hmmmm?
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Desperadoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 04:01 PM
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16. So do Surgeons
n/t
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:21 AM
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8. Clark is the only one who could accomplish this
it's a nixon to china move.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:35 AM
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12. Worked on it
Edited on Tue Nov-04-03 08:47 AM by Donna Zen
Clark has worked on this treaty in the past. There are parts he said need to be changed, and he knows which parts. Yes, he could get us a landmine's treaty.


EDIT: wouldn't it be unbelievable to have someone who actually knew something running the country?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 12:03 PM
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14. Its high time some Democrat took up this issue...
I'm increasingly sure of my choice of Clark as "the" one to take on the filth in the White House.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 03:38 PM
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15. Good Move for Clark!
and I hadn't realized Korea was the obstacle to a US signature on the treaty. It makes the reluctance more understandable, even though I still wish this country would get on the right side of an issue for a change.
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tlb Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:13 PM
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18. Clark Would "Consider " Signing
As usual, mealy-mouthed fence straddling. Clark is really becoming a bore.
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