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Thom Little Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:33 AM
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Rumsfeld mulls cut in military personnel
Hampered by an increasingly combative relationship with Congress, the Pentagon is expected to seek savings from its payroll rather than making deep cuts in major weapons programs in its next long-range plan.

The blueprint for military restructuring that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld is to release early next year -- an exercise the Pentagon undertakes every four years -- is the first one fully conceived since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

The review is expected to confirm Rumsfeld's views that the military must be lighter, more agile and better equipped to fight terrorism and confront weapons of mass destruction.

Officials said Rumsfeld is considering several options for cutting personnel costs, including:

-- Eliminating 40,000 Air Force jobs over the next six years, including active duty, civilian and reserves.

-- Cutting up to three National Guard brigades, each of which generally has about 3,500 troops.

-- Scaling back plans to increase active Army forces.


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/12/14/rumsfeld_mulls_cut_in_military_personnel/
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:35 AM
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1. We ARE already over stretched
join the army and be on rotation all the time, new slogan
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:53 AM
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2. the Air Force and Navy, are too big
do we NEED, twelve aircaft carriers,
plus six helicopter carriers?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:51 AM
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3. just because Rummy is cutting the number of people in the Navy
that does not mean he will stop building new ships that the Navy does not want now. :grr:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:04 AM
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17. But...
who will man the ships? I see this in Nursing too. They build hospitals (esp specialty hosp cause they can get more$$$$) but don't discover until they open them that they don't have Nurses to man them.:banghead:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:04 AM
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4. Given the type of navy rummy wants
you will not see a cut in ships...
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:09 AM
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5. Yeah, that'll work

Stop Loss for Life with the current forces
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 06:38 AM
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6. Rumsfeld is insane.
Just flat-out batshit crazy.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 06:53 AM
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7. "Help is on the way.." Remember when the chimp said that?
Another one of his blatant lies.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 07:23 AM
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8. a Pentagon "cut" never means "weapons" programs - it always
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 07:27 AM by Solly Mack
means personnel cuts and benefit cuts.

The Pentagon ain't giving up the "pork" if they can help it.


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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 07:44 AM
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9. See, if Carlyle and others manufactured people instead of things,
then we wouldn't need to hire fewer people and buy more things.

It's just an unfortunate circumstance. Specially if you're a people.

OK, I'm ready for Rummy and the rest of the lizard folk to go back to their home planet now.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 07:57 AM
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10. Yep, brilliant idea, Rummy...heckuva job. Let's just pull a few back
for the '06 elections, and leave the unfortunate troops left behind even MORE vulnerable.We should call it the "Roanoke" strategy...
Let them be picked off (blown up) one-by-one 'til one day they've all just mysteriously disappeared, leaving but one word scratched into an oil well.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 08:10 AM
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11. Right. Shifting the numbers to the Army or USMC, but not eliminating.
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 09:38 AM
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12. "Eliminating 40,000 Air Force jobs" ... HA,HA, so much for that Bush vote
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:38 AM
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13. Pentagon wants to replace men with machines
This month's Popular Science has a cover story about a driver-less tank. The copy reads "Tomorrow's Robot Army: Inside the Pentagon's Plans for a Soldier-Free Battlefield."

You know that defense contractors are absolutely salivating over the possibilities of making soldiers into a product they can crank out.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:39 AM
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14. we know how well THAT's worked---9-11 and Iraq
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pushycat Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:28 PM
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19. Skynet. Pentagon will run Skynet w/for-profit contractors. eeek
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:40 AM
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15. But but but, Clinton decimated the military.....
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:51 AM
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16. i was just going to say that.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 01:07 PM
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18. Start with YOURSELF, Don, you fuckface.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:36 PM
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20. We shall defeat the terrorists with bloated defense contracts
Thus saith the Rumsfeld, and so mote it be.
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