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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:20 PM
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WP: Abuse Cited In Second Iraq Ministry Facility
Abuse Cited In Second Iraq Ministry Facility
Officials Say 12 Prisoners Subjected to 'Severe Torture'

By Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, December 12, 2005; Page A01

BAGHDAD, Dec. 11 -- An Iraqi government search of a detention center in Baghdad operated by Interior Ministry special commandos found 13 prisoners who had suffered abuse serious enough to require medical treatment, U.S. and Iraqi officials said Sunday night.

An Iraqi official with firsthand knowledge of the search said that at least 12 of the 13 prisoners had been subjected to "severe torture," including sessions of electric shock and episodes that left them with broken bones.

"Two of them showed me their nails, and they were gone," the official said on condition of anonymity because of security concerns.

-snip-
The site, which was searched Thursday, is the second Interior Ministry detention center where cases of prisoner abuse have been confirmed by U.S. and Iraqi officials.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/11/AR2005121101002.html
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:36 PM
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1. How much more sh*t can they possibly shovel?
International law, including the U.N. Convention against Torture, bans torture in all cases. U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad issued a sharp public rebuke of the Iraqi government after the secret prison was discovered last month, demanding in a statement that all detainees nationwide be treated in accord with human rights.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:50 PM
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2. freedom isn't free
:sarcasm:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:03 AM
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:43 AM
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13. Thank you for your service.
I understand that this happens, but given that we're given the impression that the US has everything undercontrol over there, as far as "Iraqi soldiers" go, it is distressing to know how far away they really are from "stepping up" in a meaningful way.

Oh, and welcome to DU :toast:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:46 AM
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4. WP: Serious Abuse Is Found At Iraq Prison Facility
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 11:53 PM by usregimechange
BAGHDAD, Dec. 11 -- An Iraqi government search of a detention center in Baghdad operated by Interior Ministry special commandos found 13 prisoners who had suffered abuse serious enough to require medical treatment, U.S. and Iraqi officials said Sunday night.

An Iraqi official with firsthand knowledge of the search said that at least 12 of the 13 prisoners had been subjected to "severe torture," including sessions of electric shock and episodes that left them with broken bones.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/11/AR2005121101002.html
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:46 AM
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5. Hmmm....Could it be?...
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 11:57 PM by stillcool47
that * is worried about the 'torture photos' being released?...after all tit-for-tat is their favorite defense.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:46 AM
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6. Did they learn how from watching...
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:46 AM
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7. So, uh, where ARE those unreleased Abu Ghraib photos?
Did someone from the DoD "accidentally" ship them all in a box stamped FOR TARGET PRACTICE to White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:46 AM
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9. Here they are....
ACLU says next deadline in Abu Ghraib photo case is Dec. 15
RAW STORY

A judge could rule on whether to order the release of new photographs from the U.S.-run Abu Ghraib prison anytime after Dec. 15, an ACLU spokesperson told RAW STORY.

The 144 photographs and four videos, which have been seen by New Yorker journalist Seymour Hersh, are alleged to contain photographs of U.S. servicemembers involved in raping detainees, possibly underage. The photos and videos are in addition to an earlier set of photographs already released.

The Bush Administration has successfully blocked their release, first saying they needed time to anonymize those engaged in illicit behavior, and then seeking a permanent block, arguing the photos could endanger troops and civilians overseas
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/ACLU_says_next_deadline_i...
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 11:22 AM
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16. well, of course
their only real objection has been that it might interfere with the 'election' after all. and this new crap about 'finding abuse' (done by iraqis of course) is sooo bogus. we're supposed to believe that this is news to the occupation forces ? not bloody likely.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:46 AM
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8. So the Iraqi government is committing torture
And the Iraqi government is going to investigate?

Where do you think they got that from?


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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:47 AM
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10. More tortured found in Iraq prisons
They discoverd more tortured in Iraq prisons http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10429797/
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:47 AM
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11. "Interior Ministry" is made up of bad guys...
Riverbend remarked on this last month. They are Shi'ite hit squads.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 01:21 AM
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12. This administration must be very proud
So should Rush Limpballs, he really goes for this sort of thing. Wonder if he'll have some t-shirts made-up for this like he did Gitmo.:sarcasm:
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 10:51 AM
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14. Abuse Cited In 2nd Jail Operated by Iraqi Ministry ('Severe Torture')
Abuse Cited In 2nd Jail Operated by Iraqi Ministry
Official Says 12 Prisoners Subjected to 'Severe Torture'
By Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, December 12, 2005; Page A01

BAGHDAD, Dec. 11 -- An Iraqi government search of a detention center in Baghdad operated by Interior Ministry special commandos found 13 prisoners who had suffered abuse serious enough to require medical treatment, U.S. and Iraqi officials said Sunday night.

An Iraqi official with firsthand knowledge of the search said that at least 12 of the 13 prisoners had been subjected to "severe torture," including sessions of electric shock and episodes that left them with broken bones.

"Two of them showed me their nails, and they were gone," the official said on condition of anonymity because of security concerns.

A government spokesman, Laith Kubba, said Sunday night that any findings at the prison would be "subject to an investigation," but he declined to comment on the allegations.

(more)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/11/AR2005121101002.html

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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 11:10 AM
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15. bump
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