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Thom Little Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:03 PM
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Diebold among winning bidders for N.C. voting equipment sales
The State Board of Elections approved three companies Thursday to sell voting machines to all 100 counties in time for next year's elections, including a firm that complained earlier it couldn't comply with all the rules for computer software.

Diebold Election Systems, Election Systems & Software and Sequoia Voting Systems all met minimum technical and administrative standards to sell in North Carolina, as determined by a panel of computer and election experts.

The standards were developed under a state law approved this year after more than 4,400 electronic ballots were lost in Carteret County during the November 2004 election. The lost votes threw at least one close statewide race into uncertainty for more than two months.

Although Sequoia must wait for approval from a special procurement board due to a clerical delay, all three will be allowed to sell both optical ballot scanning and electronic recording machines to county election boards, which administer elections in North Carolina.


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NC_VOTING_PROBLEMS_NCOL-?SITE=VARIT&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2005-12-01-18-32-55
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:05 PM
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1. Who runs the state election is NC? Neo freaks or honest Dems?
Diebold must be stopped.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 01:34 PM
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23. The BOE is allegedly controlled by the dems.
:shrug:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:12 PM
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2. o m g....
:banghead:
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:47 PM
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11. That was my response when I read this in the thread in Election Reform.
I'm not believing this. Let me join you.

:banghead:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:16 PM
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3. How Is This Possible?
You stupid mother%@$%#$@^%&'s!!!!!!!!!
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:20 PM
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4. But a judge ruled that they have to give their code up for review if they
sell in NC.

They're not barred from selling, and I really doubt they will sell there.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:13 PM
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15. that is what I thought after yesterday!
I am confused! Please someone give me hope!
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:21 PM
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5. Democracy is over...has been for a few years now. -nt
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:05 PM
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13. VA, CA and NJ 05. It may be an uphill battle, but it isn't over.
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:22 PM
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6. I thought Diebold was pulling out of NC because the courts were
going to force them to reveal they're sourse code. :wtf:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051129/ap_on_hi_te/voting_problems
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:54 PM
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7. See this post...
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 07:55 PM by WHAT
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x403561

Brad: Diebold certified in NC after all by former Diebold rep!

on edit: it just doesn't seem like this could be legal?.

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:07 PM
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9. Conflict of Interest Maybe?
This is just OUTRAGEOUS!
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:58 PM
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8. NC
Has a democrat govenor and state house.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:25 PM
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10. Makes me proud to be an Murikan! From fucking shining sea to fucking
shiny sea.

:sarcasm:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 05:27 PM
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26. You post here
Therefore, you aren't a Murikan, you're an American.

I'm furious too.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:57 PM
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12. Thank God it's in time for next year's elections!
:party:
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:08 PM
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14. How the HELL did this happen?
I want nothing more right now than to see the 101st airborne shutdown GOD DAMN DIEBOLD! :argh:
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 09:25 AM
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16. Apparently, the SBoe has sold us out
I am working to get more details on what happened and why.

This IS NOT over.

No sir, not by a long shot.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 09:40 AM
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17. Here is link to BlackBoxVoting forum. NC claims they conducted
the source code audit of Diebold in less than 24 hours. General consensus is that that is not possible. Can they be forced to reveal how the audit was conducted?

http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/8/15532.html
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 10:07 AM
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19. The audit was NOT conducted
I am not aware that NC is claiming it was. Justin's letter is pointing out sarcastically to the SBoE that they did not do their job.

Be wary of anything on Bev Harris' site.

We are gathering information and pondering our option, up to and including filing suit.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:25 AM
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20. Thanks for the head up about BBV. If no review was conducted
I assume you can take this back to court to force it? God I hope so!
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:50 AM
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21. The option is being discussed
but I am waiting for all the fact first.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 09:50 AM
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18. woah, slow down. it's time to take a good long look at what's going on...
check all of the threads on this subject.

and merry fizmas!


treason's greetings!
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 12:33 PM
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22. Reply from Mark Binker, reporter for Greensboro News-Record re:
State Certified Diebold Machines Codes in less than 24 hours? The election official who will review source code is former Diebold rep?

Mark's Reply:

What we were told yesterday was that now that the SBOE has given tentative certification to the three companies (Diebold, Sequoia, ES&S) there would be a two-week review period during which the companies would have to meet certain conditions - including escrowing their code, a process that I'm told involves making sure what's in escrow is actually what's running the machines.

As for the other fellow you mention, yes, we've written about him:

http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051113/NEWSREC0101/511130328

More on this topic:
http://blog.news-record.com/staff/capblog/archives/2005/11/weekend_update_4.html
http://blog.news-record.com/staff/capblog/archives/2005/11/diebold_case_th.html
http://blog.news-record.com/staff/capblog/archives/2005/12/we_will_we_wont.html

In general, we'll be keeping tabs on the process of rolling out new voting equipment across the state, especially now that we have folks in charge of the elections saying they think they'll be hard pressed to meet the prescribed deadlines.

Thanks for your question.

--mark

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 01:35 PM
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24. CORRUPTION! ANNOUNCE IT FAR AND WIDE!
AND KEEP ANNOUNCING IT!
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 01:52 PM
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25. Are they afraid that their
"safe" votes in the south might be up for grabs?
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