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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:26 AM
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Feingold: U.S. due for 'cheesehead' prez

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Feingold: U.S. due for 'cheesehead' prez

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - The time has come for a "cheesehead" in the White House, although Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., doesn't know if he's the one to take that mantle.

He put his chances of seeking for the nomination in 2008 at "probably higher" than one in 100 while saying it was too early to commit to the race.

"But I do think one thing we can all agree on is that this country is overdue for a cheesehead president. We've never had one," he told ABC's "This Week."

A cheesehead is a native or resident of Wisconsin, a leading dairy state. The term also refers to the yellow "cheese" wedges worn on the heads of Green Bay Packers football fans.


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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:28 AM
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1. As opposed to...
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 11:28 AM by wryter2000
As opposed to one who has nothing but cheese in his head? :crazy:
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:31 AM
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4. a cheese heart pres?
cheese=rat food, maybe....:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:48 AM
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9. Something really stinky...n/t
n/t
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:25 PM
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16. VIDEO
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drb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:30 AM
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2. Russ was really sharp on George Stephanopolis' show! I'd go for him...
...over Hillary!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:33 AM
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6. He was really sharp!
Russ is a much better choice than Hillary!
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:59 AM
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12. Sharp Wisconsin Cheddar?
what could be better?
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:21 AM
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33. Yes, he's a gouda guy. n/t
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:00 PM
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19. He was sharp, he was intelligent, he was easy to listen to, easy to
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 01:02 PM by calimary
understand, he addressed some prickly questions head-on - and fearlessly, too, he was warm and accessable (to those who think a potential president is someone we should feel like we could go have a beer with :eyes:), and he showed some VERY nice humor. His stand on things is impeccable - his votes on IWR and the Patriot Act ("...which I READ..." - how many other Dems can say they actually read it before it was jammed down their throats under threat of their being called unamerican, umpatriotic, and Saddam/Osama-lovers????) give him absolute protection from ANYBODY'S claims that he's a flip-flopper.

I've just decided on my preferred candidate for 2008: Feingold. I have no trouble with his being either Jewish or twice divorced. I like him more for what he says and what he stands for, and his voting record.

And anybody who eagerly jokes about a "cheesehead president" CLEARLY has a great and vibrant sense of humor, and isn't afraid to apply it to himself. People resonate to those who don't take themselves too seriously. It was damn near irresistable - GREAT closer.

And as for Howard Dean, :loveya: - my heart STILL belongs to "Hollerin' Howard," and he's doing us a WORLD of good exactly where he is now - as kingmaker at the top of the party, and the seed sower at the grass roots and ground level - to grow us a healthier Democratic Party.

Let's see... Feingold/Warner? Gotta balance the ticket - Warner's from governor-land, has great cred, and would represent the South. Feingold/Clark? Just 'cause I LOVE Wesley Clark - man - a choice between Feingold and Clark would be REALLY difficult for me!!! We have an embarrassment of riches here. I hope people appreciate it. Maybe if this guy gathers some momentum, it'll pull people like Hillary back out of wanting to climb into bed with the far-wrong. Hillary's really starting to concern me. As someone who thinks it's not only time for a cheesehead president but also for a woman president, I'd like to support her. But I JUST DO NOT LIKE where she's leaning these days.
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Charles19 Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:19 PM
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21. Hard to say how things would go but I would definately like him
to try for the nomination.

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tcookie5 Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:22 PM
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41. I'd like him to run
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:31 AM
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3. I was very impressed by his performance on ABC. I was and
am a Deaniac but Russ Feingold has replaced Dean in my estimation. He was so open and honest I can not help but admire him. I hope he does run for president. He would do very well in the northeast and west. The south is another story. There is still much hatred for blacks and jews here that go back generations. I only hope southerners can see what a good president he would make.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:49 AM
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10. That sounds good
I'm a Deanie, too, but I believe the Governor is doing us the most good right where he is.

I wonder if the show is going to be on here in a moment. I'm Pacific time.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:25 PM
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17. But ....do you think the PNAC mobsters can twist his arm?
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:54 AM
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40. No. He has already demonstrated that by voting against them.
He acts on his own beliefs.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:32 AM
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5. I hate the Packers!
But if Russ wins, I will wear a cheesehead hat for him!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:01 PM
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13. Me too
If Feingold is a cheesehead, then so am I.

Yay.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:28 PM
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18. Me too! I'd much rather have a cheesehead president than the cheesy
"president" in there now.

Or maybe - I'd rather have a cheesehead president than a shithead president. ANY DAY.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:51 AM
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34. and WHAT a shithead he is!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:48 PM
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42. "Ich bin ein Kaesekopf?"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 04:26 PM
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23. I luv the Pack--and my Senator---Russ.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:35 AM
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7. lol at the definition
A cheesehead is a native or resident of Wisconsin, a leading dairy state. The term also refers to the yellow "cheese" wedges worn on the heads of Green Bay Packers football fans.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:44 AM
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8. Howard's a cheesehead, too!
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:09 PM
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14. Integrity
If you want the complete opposite of george II, Senator Russ is your man. The guy is smart as a whip, a critical thinker, pro-environment, honest and aboveboard, realizes that we are a country of diverse viewpoints, has the ability to work and get along with others, believes that we need a strong defense, sees health insurance for all Americans as a basic right, and does not view the rest of the world as our enemy.
Russ Feingold has integrity. What a change from bush this real man would be. If he runs, he has this vet's vote.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:18 PM
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15. He does come across very well to those of us who don't know too much
about him, yet. His calmness, and total lack of childish, cheap grandstanding is very refreshing for a politician. He does seem far, far more trustworthy.

Thanks for your comments.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 04:31 PM
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24. Hey, badgervan, Welcome to DU!
He'd have my vote, too, if he runs. I don't see anyone more compelling than maybe Wesley Clark. They'd make a humdinger of a ticket, wouldn't they?

Glad you're here! Help us

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!
And then go DO something about it.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:46 AM
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38. Vermont cheese kicks ass!
It's just that Vermont is too small to make the stuff in quantity like Wisconsin.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:58 AM
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11. We do currently have the equivalent of an emmenthal-head. nt
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Allyoop Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:34 PM
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20. My candidate
for 2008 if Wes Clark doesn't run! However, I want to know more about his stand on defense issues. He said he didn't think we should have been involved in the Balkans, that Europe should have handled it, but without proper leadership (Wes Clark and Clinton administration), Europe couldn't and wouldn't have handled it. Did I hear what he was saying accurately? Can anyone point me to more information on his stance on defense?
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:01 PM
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26. it's true that Europe was slow in Bosnia, but times have changed
Besides the bulk of the effort has been European, not US. the US has "as usual" played a decisive role, mainly due to overwhelming air power. But that's mostly all, besides Clinton's peacebroking.

The Kosovo crisis showed a very different European reaction, learned from Bosnia. The problem "as usual" is that the US wanted an air war, Iraq type, and no or little involvment on the ground. The results are known : destruction of the Serbian infrastructure with tremendous collateral damage while the Serbian military was left intact. I think that Clark was against it, but was stopped in Washington.

The EU has managed the peacekeeping in Bosnia and Kosovo with mostly good if not excellent results. The US presence has been marginal (6000 troops out of 60 000). Bosnia is now on its way to become a EU-member. Kosovo has a longer way to go, but there is no comparison with Iraq. Milosevic is at the Hague with a fair trial.

so the "couldn't and wouldn't" are a bit too glorifying. If Clinton hadn't been there, somebody else would have. One thing is for sure : Europe won't wait for the US to handle such crises in the future, after the Iraq experience. New European crises are not likely either in the near future.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:40 PM
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22. Better than shit-for-brains... nt
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 04:32 PM
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25. Why not a cheesehead?
The current one is a screwhead.
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tired_in_tulsa Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:09 PM
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27. Fiengold doesn't stand a chance
Sorry, but Feingold doesn't sand a chance to win. He's way to far left for this country. He's supported partial birth abortion, that right there will give him the lose.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:37 PM
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28. Funny, he manages to win in Wisconsin with plenty of puke votes
In fact, there's a puke in my county who started a Feingold for Pres campaign two years ago.

Just keep watching. This man is an impressive campaigner and a phenomenal representative. He'll be out there with his "way too far left" ideals and his calm, common sense demeanor convincing the swingers and pukes those very ideals are theirs too. He's one of those rare politicians who can convince those "all politicians are alike" voters that he is definitely not like the others.

Been watching Sen. Feingold for over 12 years. His style, his honesty and his grace are a thing to behold and he is not shy in any way about the rightness of Democratic principles.

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:47 PM
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30. "supported partial birth abortion" heh-heh. Welcome to DU, enjoy your
visit.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:51 PM
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43. Funny--that same phrase leapt out at me too.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:03 PM
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31. I do not care one way or the other about his private life, but I think the
two divorces WILL be problematic. I don't think it will affect him locally (all politics IS local, after all) but on the national stage, I think that is one of the dealbreakers.
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Tangledog Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:07 PM
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32. Yeah, the divorces are a problem
The Cheeseheads have probably known him long enough to take it in stride, but it's not a great first impression to leave with the majority of the rest of the country, many of whom have hardly ever heard of him. It's too bad, because he does seem to be one of the brightest & most coherent people out there in the political arena.
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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:39 PM
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49. I don't know...Clinton had affairs and smoked pot and people got past it
Lets not assume. I think most Americans just want out of Iraq and I think his vote record is a very good one.

The biggest question to me is not the divorces or his support of partial birth abortion. To me its whether or not the oligarchy will allow him to win. They control the media and the messages. The Dean scream was echoed across the universe not by accident. Dean was/is principled and probably not easily controlled by the interests who want to stay in power. Feingold would probably be a similar threat to them. And by extension, the republicans who are adept at rigging vote machines would also be threatened by Feingold.

Just a thought.
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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:33 PM
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47. Well, 66% of the country is 'pro-choice'....go back to freeperville
I know the religious right wants to turn us into a backwoods theocratic dictatorship, but not everyone is willing to drink the kool aid.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:46 PM
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29. Sign me up for a case of Merlot- it goes well with cheese.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:34 AM
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35. Why not? We've had a Shit-Head for the last 6 years...n/t
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:38 AM
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36. He's got my vote....always has...nt
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:44 AM
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37. I'd vote for him.
I hear mostly good things about him, and he appears to possess a spine.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:28 AM
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39. Is Russ gonna throw us under the bus with Alito like he did with Roberts?
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:56 PM
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44. I like him a lot. I just don't think America would vote for a Jewish
candidate for president at this particular time. I may be wrong, but I don't think it would happen. :shrug:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:54 PM
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45. Well, we already have a Limburger one
Pee-ewwwwwwwwwww!!!
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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:31 PM
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46. Feingold 2008: Voted against the war and against the patriot act
He totally has my vote. There isn't another candidate with those credentials.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:35 PM
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48. Senator Feingold would be a stellar President.
Sign me up.
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